Your Political Beliefs?

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  1. rightwinger
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    Its the same thing as a person
     
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    Easy stuff... Nature has already established the truth. Follow nature's laws and the rest works itself out.
     
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    Our form of government was built with an extremely logical focus on society. All of the parts were designed to work together, strengthening one another. When the country was founded "the whole" was the focus. As time progressed "the individual" became the focus. This shift is the current undoing of our country. A centralized federal government can't effectively govern individuals.

    Most debates start from false premises now. 1.) Marriage - The government has no business approving or sanctioning marriage straight or gay. 2.) Religion - The government is strictly prohibited from establishing a national religion or prohibiting the free exercise of. 3.) Citizenship - Being born here to illegal residents should not grant citizenship. The 14th amendment was poorly written and was not intended for its current use. 4.) Citizens United - The problem lies with the tax system. If you are going to tax corporations as independent beings then you have to afford that corporation the same access to representation as an independent being.

    We, as a nation, have bastardized the original intent of the Constitution for years based on special interests (individualism). That leads to all of the turmoil that we face now.
     
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    Wrong. It is a legal entity created to allow individuals to invest without incurring personal liability. Without corporations, it would be impossible to engage in any large scale enterprise. Corporations are what allow us to have cars, purchase homes, use credit cards, etc. That being said, neither corporations, labor unions nor any other business entity should be permitted to contribute, directly or indirectly, to any individual person's or political party's campaign efforts.
     
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    Corporations are taxed as a singular entity. The very laws that are in effect as a result of elections effect corporations as a singular entity. Labor unions are tax exempt so "taxation without representation" does not apply. If anyone doesn't like it then feel free to change the tax code.
     
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    Hmm... would that apply to everyone who owns a portion of the corporation (stockholders)? Or just their employees?
     
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    Really? So all other nations are freer than the US?
     
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    It should apply to corporations and labor unions, not individuals. By the way, nonprofit entities are granted tax exempt status on the basis of their exempt purposes, which do not include partisan political activity. Labor Unions have been violating these restrictions for decades without repercussion because politicians are afraid of offending them.
     
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    Huh? If the law doesn't apply to the owners of the corporation, nor to their employees, who does it apply to?
     
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    You are clearly one of the few with an OPEN MIND and willing to decide for yourself. Christianity has nothing to do with the Constitution, yet, the Constitution was based on Christian Beliefs. The New Test talks about "Free Will" and being a good example to show others what it's like to be Christian. But the Old Testament was just like the terrorists we see in Islam today.
    Murder in the Bible

    It's hard to see Americans act like the brutal Christians we once use to be before, THINKING. So hard.
     

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