Your 2012 Prez. election/candidates thread....

InTrade has the odds of Obama winning at 56%. I may put my money where my mouth is there. That number is way too low. At this point, based on all knowable factors, Obama is close to a guarantee to win in 2012. I'd say it's well over 70%.

And this why, AGAIN, you people are 20% of the population/electorate TOPS.

Obama is arguably the most hated 1st term Prez. in history, racism, white guilt, and general ignorance won't win him another term, and our commercials for 2012 are already writing themselves.

He's already dipped to 39% approval. Took GWB well into his second term before general public ignorance did that to him, he's also more popular than Obama is right now.

But I welcome your complacency, it'll make this already increasingly easy lookin Prez. cycle even easier....


Anyone with Sarah Palin as their picture on this site can't be taken seriously. I'm not a liberal lefty in the 20% you speak of, I'm center-left.

There's no poll that suggests Obama has 39% approval. Of course I say that because I'm certain you can't produce one. If somehow you do, I guarantee it's a FOX poll or something very similar. Obama's approval rating is higher than Reagan's or Clinton's at this same time in their first term and I CAN produce evidence of that. You right-wing morons just make things up to fit your argument and assume people will accept it. The only loons that do are already on your side. You don't need to convince them.

If I was putting numbers to it, I'd guess the GOP has about a 85-90% chance of holding the House in 2012, a 60-70% chance of taking the Senate, and a 25-30% chance of winning the Presidency. Just my guess based on everything known at this time, but I can guarantee you my guess is better than yours.
 
ElephantMcDonk wrote:
Anyone with Sarah Palin as their picture on this site can't be taken seriously. I'm not a liberal lefty in the 20% you speak of, I'm center-left.
Says a liberal who clearly suffers from Palin Derangement Syndrome who likes to sugar code that dirty "L word" by putting CENTER in front of it.:lol:

There's no poll that suggests Obama has 39% approval. Of course I say that because I'm certain you can't produce one. If somehow you do, I guarantee it's a FOX poll or something very similar.
Annnnd now, the proverbial sword thru your stomach that your ignorant assumptions fail to discredit:
Obama Approval Reaches Low Of 39%

UTICA, N.Y. – President Barack Obama’s job approval rating has dipped to 39 percent, equaling a low since he took office two years ago, according to a newly released Zogby Interactive poll.

A majority of likely voters – 63 percent – see the President as a weak leader, compared to just 19 percent who say he is strong. More than two thirds (68 percent) believe that the country is headed in the wrong direction.


Obama Approval Reaches Low Of 39% | njtoday.net – Everything New Jersey

GOT DAYUM victory feels good! Last time I checked ZOGBY'S A DEMOCRAT my sheepish lil friend.

There's no coming back from this dude, YOU LOOSE, disproved, discredited, humiliated.:lol:

Your posts are usually shit, your guesses are certainly SHIT......and there is a silver lining for you, WELCOME TO MY PWNED LIST! Enjoy the company of other delusional, weirdo lefties like Starkey, KWO, and ABikerSailor.
 
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Dennis Kucinich / Ron Paul 2012

-Bring our troops home
-Enact Single-payer health care for all
-End our dependence on foreign oil

Yes, because Ron Paul is just dying to jump on board with public option government healthcare :rolleyes:
 
but Romney seriously needs to shore himself up on some big positions like health care, abortion, etc. before I can actually be comfortable supporting/voting for em.

He will remain committed to recognizing federally protected restrictive abortion, exactly what most Americans believe.

Health care is iffy. With the care costs beginning to slow down, this may not be an issue by the end of 2011. The problem for the McConnells and Boehners is that once Americans understand what the legislation really is, they end up generally supporting it.
 
but Romney seriously needs to shore himself up on some big positions like health care, abortion, etc. before I can actually be comfortable supporting/voting for em.

He will remain committed to recognizing federally protected restrictive abortion, exactly what most Americans believe.

Health care is iffy. With the care costs beginning to slow down, this may not be an issue by the end of 2011. The problem for the McConnells and Boehners is that once Americans understand what the legislation really is, they end up generally supporting it.

.......WTF is goin on......this dude is actually posting sensible shit............

......That said, the majority of Americans are also pro-LIFE, and despite your suggestions that Americans are slow, they already understand what's in that bill, BS, Unconstitutional, authoritarian, nanny state BS, Obamacare will very likely always have majority disapproval.

It will remain one of our biggest assets in 2012, whatever parts of it we aint undo yet anyway......
 
but Romney seriously needs to shore himself up on some big positions like health care, abortion, etc. before I can actually be comfortable supporting/voting for em.

He will remain committed to recognizing federally protected restrictive abortion, exactly what most Americans believe.

Health care is iffy. With the care costs beginning to slow down, this may not be an issue by the end of 2011. The problem for the McConnells and Boehners is that once Americans understand what the legislation really is, they end up generally supporting it.

.......WTF is goin on......this dude is actually posting sensible shit............

......That said, the majority of Americans are also pro-LIFE, and despite your suggestions that Americans are slow, they already understand what's in that bill, BS, Unconstitutional, authoritarian, nanny state BS, Obamacare will very likely always have majority disapproval.

It will remain one of our biggest assets in 2012, whatever parts of it we aint undo yet anyway......

All it means is your drugs are kicking in and you are rational right now. You keep hanging it onto ideology. Your ideology is held on to about 20% of the voters. The majority of voters believe in federally protected restrictive abortion: so does Romney There is no other GOP candidate (right now) who can run against BHO with a chance of winning. We are working for Romney here, and that movement is growing across the country. Get on board.
 
-Pops my collar-

Anyone else? Any other lefty here wanna get exposed and hung out to dry?

Oh yeah, Zogby Interactive...

Quoted directly from Wikipedia:

"Nate Silver statistician of FiveThirtyEight.com called Zogby International's online polling division, Zogby Interactive, "The worst pollster in the world." ranking it last in his Pollster Rankings. He also ranked Zogby's Telephone polls 53rd of 64[6]. He notes the pollster relies on one day polling which causes large fluctuations in data. Silver uses their misleading questions, seemingly to create a bias, as evidence for their status." [7]

...Idiot :eusa_shhh:
 
He will remain committed to recognizing federally protected restrictive abortion, exactly what most Americans believe.

Health care is iffy. With the care costs beginning to slow down, this may not be an issue by the end of 2011. The problem for the McConnells and Boehners is that once Americans understand what the legislation really is, they end up generally supporting it.

.......WTF is goin on......this dude is actually posting sensible shit............

......That said, the majority of Americans are also pro-LIFE, and despite your suggestions that Americans are slow, they already understand what's in that bill, BS, Unconstitutional, authoritarian, nanny state BS, Obamacare will very likely always have majority disapproval.

It will remain one of our biggest assets in 2012, whatever parts of it we aint undo yet anyway......

All it means is your drugs are kicking in and you are rational right now. You keep hanging it onto ideology. Your ideology is held on to about 20% of the voters. The majority of voters believe in federally protected restrictive abortion: so does Romney There is no other GOP candidate (right now) who can run against BHO with a chance of winning. We are working for Romney here, and that movement is growing across the country. Get on board.

Noooo! You were doing so well! But you went back off the deep end, cuz you're now completely confusing liberalism with conservatism, YALL are the 20%, we're in the lower to mid 40's range, have been for a long time now.

Again, if you were tryna refer to abortion, a majority of Americans, again, are pro-LIFE, and most of that % believes in tryna overturn Roe V. Wade, EVEN ROE.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I sadly aint had any weed for a while, I'd need it tho to ever actually understand the majority of your usually loony posts......

This is also the 1st I heard of you supporting Romney......interesting, but I maintain, anything can happen between now and 2012 in regards to him.....he aint a shoe in yet.....
 
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-Pops my collar-

Anyone else? Any other lefty here wanna get exposed and hung out to dry?

Oh yeah, Zogby Interactive...

Quoted directly from Wikipedia:

"Nate Silver statistician of FiveThirtyEight.com called Zogby International's online polling division, Zogby Interactive, "The worst pollster in the world." ranking it last in his Pollster Rankings. He also ranked Zogby's Telephone polls 53rd of 64[6]. He notes the pollster relies on one day polling which causes large fluctuations in data. Silver uses their misleading questions, seemingly to create a bias, as evidence for their status." [7]

...Idiot :eusa_shhh:

:cuckoo::eusa_boohoo::eusa_wall:

So now, after getting pummeled, you're gonna attempt @ shooting the messenger WITH INFO FROM A SITE THAT CAN BE EDITED BY ANYONE?

A golden rule among debate is that you DON'T USE WIKI unless you got nothin else up your sleeve, you clearly don't.:lol: Interestingly enough, ZOGBY was also 1 OF THE MOST ACCURATE in Bush/Kerry, and since, his reputation is usually spot on.

I provided the proof, not righty @ all, you lost sheep, admit it, lick your wounds, and move on.
 
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Your tea party crowd, R1, is no bigger than the far left.

Romney is right in the middle of America when it comes to abortion.

You are wise to drop the Mormon stuff, cause that will be a loser this time to his opponents.

You have the last word, R1. We are going caroling. I am glad you are sounding more sensible than usual.
 
Romney - too wishy washy

While this may be true on some issues, he is firm where we need it most: the economy. This country needs an executive to lead it.

My only beef with Romney is that he is in deep with the 1%, but what politician isn't? We need someone who will be willing to make tough decisions, such as raising taxes for all Americans, the rich and the poor. We need someone who will cut spending on useless programs that we can't afford right now. Unfortunately, Romney isn't that guy, but none of the candidates from either party are. Romney is just the most likely to focus on the bottom line. He will look at the federal budget as if it were the budget for a company.

I agree with your assessment Jon, but even the staunchest Massachusetts Republican politician is at best a Blue Dog Democrat in Missouri and Arkansas.

Romney fails two important tests, protecting the 2nd Amendment and abortion.

In the Missouri primary, I'll won't be working to elect Romney.

 
Your tea party crowd, R1, is no bigger than the far left.

Romney is right in the middle of America when it comes to abortion.

You are wise to drop the Mormon stuff, cause that will be a loser this time to his opponents.

You have the last word, R1. We are going caroling. I am glad you are sounding more sensible than usual.

......Holy shit.....lucid AND nice..........keep this up and I might have to take you off my list.....

Anyway.....do I consider myself part of the Tea Party? Yea, BUT only cuz I love and believe in the Constitution, and want small, limited federal government that respects the rights of its people, fiscal responsibility, etc.

I'm willing to bet my life that if you polled those views, a majority of Americans would agree with me, so I'd hold up on that 20% stuff man.

As I said, and you said, Romney is iffy on health care, he needs to find himself there, it'll be a crucial issue in 2012, if he doesn't, that could very well sink em.

To get our nomination, Romney will have to prove his pro-life credentials, something else I see as hurting him, he flip flops on this issue......

I dunno if I can support him yet, and am wondering why you're now saying you are, you never did before. You gave every impression that you're a lefty D.....
 
Dennis Kucinich / Ron Paul 2012

-Bring our troops home
-Enact Single-payer health care for all
-End our dependence on foreign oil

Yes, PLEASE nominate that wacko National Socialist nut, then we can just run Palin and win like I really wanna do.

What the hell is wrong with you? Most Republicans want to make you a criminal.

In fact, the President's approval rating has been bouncing between 45% and 50% percent for the past seven months, which some analysts find remarkable given that he's been forced to grapple with an unemployment rate approaching 10%, two unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico and the recent drubbing his party received in the midterm elections.

Obama's approval rating remains steady despite setbacks; party favors compromise with GOP: poll
 
Dennis Kucinich / Ron Paul 2012

-Bring our troops home
-Enact Single-payer health care for all
-End our dependence on foreign oil

Yes, PLEASE nominate that wacko National Socialist nut, then we can just run Palin and win like I really wanna do.

What the hell is wrong with you? Most Republicans want to make you a criminal.

In fact, the President's approval rating has been bouncing between 45% and 50% percent for the past seven months, which some analysts find remarkable given that he's been forced to grapple with an unemployment rate approaching 10%, two unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico and the recent drubbing his party received in the midterm elections.

Obama's approval rating remains steady despite setbacks; party favors compromise with GOP: poll

Yea ok......you go head and show me where that is in the national GOP platform why don't ya........:doubt:
 
Dennis Kucinich / Ron Paul 2012

-Bring our troops home
-Enact Single-payer health care for all
-End our dependence on foreign oil

Yes, PLEASE nominate that wacko National Socialist nut, then we can just run Palin and win like I really wanna do.

What the hell is wrong with you? Most Republicans want to make you a criminal.

In fact, the President's approval rating has been bouncing between 45% and 50% percent for the past seven months, which some analysts find remarkable given that he's been forced to grapple with an unemployment rate approaching 10%, two unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico and the recent drubbing his party received in the midterm elections.

Obama's approval rating remains steady despite setbacks; party favors compromise with GOP: poll

Also, your article even says that their numbers are the LOWEST they ever recorded for Obama.

Also:
Obama Approval Reaches Low Of 39%

UTICA, N.Y. – President Barack Obama’s job approval rating has dipped to 39 percent, equaling a low since he took office two years ago, according to a newly released Zogby Interactive poll.

A majority of likely voters – 63 percent – see the President as a weak leader, compared to just 19 percent who say he is strong. More than two thirds (68 percent) believe that the country is headed in the wrong direction.

Obama Approval Reaches Low Of 39% | njtoday.net – Everything New Jersey


Also:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports


Also:
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

POINT IS people that ANYTHING below 50% SUCKS, and is NOT a good omen for reelection prospects. Again, even GWB and his GOP brand are more popular than Obama right now.
 
ElephantMcDonk wrote:
Anyone with Sarah Palin as their picture on this site can't be taken seriously. I'm not a liberal lefty in the 20% you speak of, I'm center-left.
Says a liberal who clearly suffers from Palin Derangement Syndrome who likes to sugar code that dirty "L word" by putting CENTER in front of it.:lol:

There's no poll that suggests Obama has 39% approval. Of course I say that because I'm certain you can't produce one. If somehow you do, I guarantee it's a FOX poll or something very similar.
Annnnd now, the proverbial sword thru your stomach that your ignorant assumptions fail to discredit:
Obama Approval Reaches Low Of 39%

UTICA, N.Y. – President Barack Obama’s job approval rating has dipped to 39 percent, equaling a low since he took office two years ago, according to a newly released Zogby Interactive poll.

A majority of likely voters – 63 percent – see the President as a weak leader, compared to just 19 percent who say he is strong. More than two thirds (68 percent) believe that the country is headed in the wrong direction.


Obama Approval Reaches Low Of 39% | njtoday.net – Everything New Jersey

GOT DAYUM victory feels good! Last time I checked ZOGBY'S A DEMOCRAT my sheepish lil friend.

There's no coming back from this dude, YOU LOOSE, disproved, discredited, humiliated.:lol:

Your posts are usually shit, your guesses are certainly SHIT......and there is a silver lining for you, WELCOME TO MY PWNED LIST! Enjoy the company of other delusional, weirdo lefties like Starkey, KWO, and ABikerSailor.

80% of Republicans don't support Palin as the nominee. 90% of educated Republicans don't want Palin as the nominee.

Palin Draws Limited Support Among College-Educated Republicans - NYTimes.com

Two-thirds of Americans don't want Palin as President.

A solid majority of Americans don’t want to see Sarah Palin ever become president, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.

Two-thirds, 67%, said they don’t ever want the former Alaska governor to be president, compared with the 21% who said they would.

While it should come as no surprise that 87% of Democrats said they don’t ever want Palin as commander-in-chief, some 43% of Republicans said the same thing—as well as 65% of independents.

Even 46% of self-identified conservatives said they do not want Palin as president, as well as 44% of those who voted for Arizona GOP Sen. John McCain in 2008.

At 44%, white evangelicals are the largest subgroup supporting Palin as president one day.

WSJ/NBC Poll: Would You Like to See Palin as President Someday? - Washington Wire - WSJ

Personally, I would love to see Palin get nominated because it would be great theater. But it ain't going to happen. The Republican Party is far too smart and ruthless to nominate such a lightweight.

But as a fan of irony, I'd love to see her nominated and get stomped on by Obama, just to watch the Palinistas' heads explode.
 

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