You'll never guess which states have most jobless

[sealybobo]

Exactly! Good point. Does our government have a surplus or deficit?

And remember when gas was $4? That fucked your bills up, right?

So clearly you pay more than your share in taxes.

Now after seeing how these mega corporations are sheltering their $ offshore and so are 50,000 of our richest Americans (UBS), I would say that they are NOT paying their fair share.

Lets say pre Reagan they were paying too much. Ok fine, so Reagan lowered their taxes. FINE. But then Bush 2 came in and lowered them too much.

And no matter how low he makes them, 3rd world countries labor costs are still lower than they are here, so they will still leave the country if the politicans allow them, and they will never stop complaining until they not only pay zero in taxes, but they will probably even push to be subsodized.

What would you say then? If a big company in your state said, "give us a billion dollars in tax subsodies or we are leaving your state and the US.

Do you know what I would say? Leave!!! And don't ship your shit back here.

And then another start up company in the "free market" will take over for them.

Instead of their CEO making $20 million, he/she might only make $2 million a year.

And the only way wages will go up is if jobs are plentyful. We can't replace the jobs that are leaving fast enough. And Green jobs don't pay as well as the union jobs that left.

That's not a good thing. And that will affect all of us. If wages go down for some, they typically go down for all of us.

If you are a business owner, maybe you don't mind, but as a worker bee, that's bullshit.

And it doesn't help the economy either.

That's the thing about right wing thinking. It just doesn't work.

I get all your talking points. We don't want to tax a company so much that they can't succeed. And we can't be isolationists. But we do need to tax the companies "their fair share" and we do need to protect the American middle class, which is under attack.

So again, what is their fair share?????? You are saying that if they make $20 million a year they are not paying their fair share.... What if they pay 90% in taxes and still make $20 million???? Are they still not paying their fair share???? What is that number? Is it what ever it takes to keep their pay at $2 million a year? Why is it you or the government that should tell these people how much they should make? Also, how is raising taxes on American coporations going to entice corporations to move their operations here?

Look, indexing (income bracketing) has been going on since 1917. You need to stop pretending this is all some new elaborate tax plan belonging strictly to Obama. It fluctuates among the majority party, with Reagan lowering the highest percentage, Clinton bringing it back up, Bush lowering it again, and now Obama trying to raise it back to where it was during the Clinton administration.

Deal with it.

Thanks Maggie.

 

[oreo]

Libs - Before you rip WND remember these stats came from the Democratic led government...

Unemployment in March was 20 percent higher in so-called "blue states" won by Democratic candidate Barack Obama in last fall's presidential election than in "red states" won by Republican candidate John McCain, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


You'll never guess which states have most jobless

Duh!

Blue states had all the manufacturing jobs.

And this would make sense why red states were stupid enough to vote for the status quo. They just don't get it yet.

What manufacturing jobs are there in California and Oregon?

DITTO-- I was just listening to a report--California is the highest tax state in the union--New York comes in a close second. People & Businesse's are leaving these states in groves. Ohio is the 5th highest state tax--& they wonder why they were just passed up by a corporation that would have hired thousands. This corporation set up business in S. Carolina.

DID YOU KNOW: That New Hampshire has no state income tax or sales tax? But their schools are better than most of the nation & grade averages of the students are higher than the national average.

 

[sealybobo]

Duh!

Blue states had all the manufacturing jobs.

And this would make sense why red states were stupid enough to vote for the status quo. They just don't get it yet.

What manufacturing jobs are there in California and Oregon?

DITTO-- I was just listening to a report--California is the highest tax state in the union--New York comes in a close second. People & Businesse's are leaving these states in groves. Ohio is the 5th highest state tax--& they wonder why they were just passed up by a corporation that would have hired thousands. This corporation set up business in S. Carolina.

DID YOU KNOW: That New Hampshire has no state income tax or sales tax? But their schools are better than most of the nation & grade averages of the students are higher than the national average.

How come companies haven't been in New Hampshire for the past century then?

There is/was a reason why NY and Cali had the highest taxes.

You'll see if the jobs ever come to New Hampshire.

And again, if New Hampshire is getting the jobs, we are cool with that. Its the jobs going to mexico and china that bother us.

And you'll never be able to compete, so sooner or later, they'll be leaving your state too.

PS. Who knows if what you are saying is true. Its not apples to apples. We don't know what your sales taxes are, state taxes, what you get for those taxes, gas taxes, etc. We don't know.

I would love for someone to have all the dirt on New Hampshire and tell us why it isn't all that you say it is.

I'm not going to research it. Who cares. It isn't like New Hampshire matters. Never been there, and probably 99% of the country has never been there.

I've never even met anyone from New Hampshire. How big is it? Do you have any major cities? That makes a difference. How cheap are things?

My cousin is going to buy the house he's living in in Texas for $20,000.

Hey, more power to people in Texas for being able to live so cheap. No wonder they only make $15 an hour at best.

Remember, apples to apples. You can't compare New Hampshire to California.

BUT, New Hampshire seems like a nice place too, seriously. Appaliachin mountains, you touch the atlantic, by maine, conneticut & vermont. Must be nice.

Is that a blue state? Because I didn't think there were any Republicans in the north east anymore.

 

[Nik]

Duh!

Blue states had all the manufacturing jobs.

And this would make sense why red states were stupid enough to vote for the status quo. They just don't get it yet.

What manufacturing jobs are there in California and Oregon?

DITTO-- I was just listening to a report--California is the highest tax state in the union--New York comes in a close second. People & Businesse's are leaving these states in groves. Ohio is the 5th highest state tax--& they wonder why they were just passed up by a corporation that would have hired thousands. This corporation set up business in S. Carolina.

DID YOU KNOW: That New Hampshire has no state income tax or sales tax? But their schools are better than most of the nation & grade averages of the students are higher than the national average.

Umm, schools are usually paid for through property taxes. Apples to Oranges there, boyo.

 

[auditor0007]

Crickets.... booboo is searching the net right now....LOL

And I spent an entire day yesterday talking about a PBS special I saw on Sunday explaining what happened to LA.

WW2 started and blacks were recruited to LA to work for GM, Ford, Chrysler and for 30 years black people were very successful in LA. Then the Big 3 left and that had a lot to do with why the riots happened in the 60's and also why south central today is a war zone.

You right wingers can't think this stuff thru. That's why you never solve any problems.

You can't solve the economic problems we have now with tax cuts.

We need more jobs. The sooner you admit this, the sooner I stop thinking you are a fucking idiot.

Agreed that we need more jobs Bobo, but the government is not going to create long term permanent jobs, although the Dems certainly are trying seeing that the Federal Government is about the only entity hiring people currently.

 

[auditor0007]

Libs - Before you rip WND remember these stats came from the Democratic led government...

Unemployment in March was 20 percent higher in so-called "blue states" won by Democratic candidate Barack Obama in last fall's presidential election than in "red states" won by Republican candidate John McCain, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


You'll never guess which states have most jobless

Why would it be in any way surprising that the states with the highest unemployment as a result of the recession would have elected the candidate from the party not in power?

It is what I would expect to happen.

Very true. However, the point is that if the situation is not turned around, those same people will again turn on those they put in office.

 

[MaggieMae]

Duh!

Blue states had all the manufacturing jobs.

And this would make sense why red states were stupid enough to vote for the status quo. They just don't get it yet.

What manufacturing jobs are there in California and Oregon?

DITTO-- I was just listening to a report--California is the highest tax state in the union--New York comes in a close second. People & Businesse's are leaving these states in groves. Ohio is the 5th highest state tax--& they wonder why they were just passed up by a corporation that would have hired thousands. This corporation set up business in S. Carolina.

DID YOU KNOW: That New Hampshire has no state income tax or sales tax? But their schools are better than most of the nation & grade averages of the students are higher than the national average.

New Hampshire's biggest tax burden is on property owners. I also recall that their gas tax is high in order to maintain their roads. Currently, however, NH is suffering a huge budget shock because lack of a broad-based tax system to sustain it in the economic downturn, and is looking to legalized casino gambling as a way to rejuvinate its economy.

 

[sealybobo]

Crickets.... booboo is searching the net right now....LOL

And I spent an entire day yesterday talking about a PBS special I saw on Sunday explaining what happened to LA.

WW2 started and blacks were recruited to LA to work for GM, Ford, Chrysler and for 30 years black people were very successful in LA. Then the Big 3 left and that had a lot to do with why the riots happened in the 60's and also why south central today is a war zone.

You right wingers can't think this stuff thru. That's why you never solve any problems.

You can't solve the economic problems we have now with tax cuts.

We need more jobs. The sooner you admit this, the sooner I stop thinking you are a fucking idiot.

Agreed that we need more jobs Bobo, but the government is not going to create long term permanent jobs, although the Dems certainly are trying seeing that the Federal Government is about the only entity hiring people currently.

We need to make it so 70% of a companies cars are "manufactured" in the US. Or 60%, or 50%. Whatever the right percentage is, people in manufacturing agree this needs to happen. And don't worry about the cost, because wages will go up and you'll be able to afford it. Right now we get cheap good shipped in still no one is buying.

Service jobs won't cut it either. This country needs to be manufacturing products.

If the swine flu would have gotten worse, we'd be fucked, because the vaccine is made in Mexico.

And if we go to war with China, we'll have to contract out the work to CHINA to build our battleships and tanks.

Why doesn't it bother people that America went from the largest creditor nation to the largest debtor nation? That's FUCKED UP. That's very bad.

And unions have been warning us for decades, but instead of listening to them, we've been listening to the corporations who want to kill the unions.

 

[WillowTree]

Crickets.... booboo is searching the net right now....LOL

And I spent an entire day yesterday talking about a PBS special I saw on Sunday explaining what happened to LA.

WW2 started and blacks were recruited to LA to work for GM, Ford, Chrysler and for 30 years black people were very successful in LA. Then the Big 3 left and that had a lot to do with why the riots happened in the 60's and also why south central today is a war zone.

You right wingers can't think this stuff thru. That's why you never solve any problems.

You can't solve the economic problems we have now with tax cuts.

We need more jobs. The sooner you admit this, the sooner I stop thinking you are a fucking idiot.

Yes and I reminded you yesterday that the democwats took california down just like they did michigan,, ohio,, tsk tsk tsk taxed your own dumb asses right outta business.

 

[sealybobo]

Libs - Before you rip WND remember these stats came from the Democratic led government...

Unemployment in March was 20 percent higher in so-called "blue states" won by Democratic candidate Barack Obama in last fall's presidential election than in "red states" won by Republican candidate John McCain, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


You'll never guess which states have most jobless

Why would it be in any way surprising that the states with the highest unemployment as a result of the recession would have elected the candidate from the party not in power?

It is what I would expect to happen.

Very true. However, the point is that if the situation is not turned around, those same people will again turn on those they put in office.

This is the GOP's hope. They along with corporate America will stop any and all progress towards increasing wages or bringing jobs back home. So in 2010, you'll vote out the Dems who tried but failed, and you'll vote in Republicans, who were the ones who sent the jobs overseas in the first place.

Just remember 2006 and 2007 were record profits for corporations. Oil, healthcare, airlines, etc. They all maxed out their profits by cutting our pay and sending jobs overseas. And look at the CEO pay and how it quadrupled. That's not right or fair.

And the banks/credit cards/mortgage lenders made a killing too. Where did all that money go?

I have asked: In business, there are always winners and losers. So who won? Where did all the money go? I'll tell you. It went to the CEO's of the defense companies, the wallstreet ceo's, the oil company ceo's, etc.

And now they are all asking for socialism to bail them out. Privatize the profits and socialize the losses.

But seriously, where is the money that Wallstreet lost? All of our 401K's took a dump, right? So if we lost all that money, where did it go? Someone must have won if we lost.

Please answer that.

 

[sealybobo]

Crickets.... booboo is searching the net right now....LOL

And I spent an entire day yesterday talking about a PBS special I saw on Sunday explaining what happened to LA.

WW2 started and blacks were recruited to LA to work for GM, Ford, Chrysler and for 30 years black people were very successful in LA. Then the Big 3 left and that had a lot to do with why the riots happened in the 60's and also why south central today is a war zone.

You right wingers can't think this stuff thru. That's why you never solve any problems.

You can't solve the economic problems we have now with tax cuts.

We need more jobs. The sooner you admit this, the sooner I stop thinking you are a fucking idiot.

Yes and I reminded you yesterday that the democwats took california down just like the did michigan,, ohio,, tsk tsk tsk taxed your own dumb asses right outta business.

You may have said that, but you certainly didn't [prove it or explain how. You just said it. Any fool can say anything they want. You prove it daily.

Did you go to college? Did you ever work? What have you accomplished?

 

[WillowTree]

Exactly! Good point. Does our government have a surplus or deficit?

And remember when gas was $4? That fucked your bills up, right?

So clearly you pay more than your share in taxes.

Now after seeing how these mega corporations are sheltering their $ offshore and so are 50,000 of our richest Americans (UBS), I would say that they are NOT paying their fair share.

Lets say pre Reagan they were paying too much. Ok fine, so Reagan lowered their taxes. FINE. But then Bush 2 came in and lowered them too much.

And no matter how low he makes them, 3rd world countries labor costs are still lower than they are here, so they will still leave the country if the politicans allow them, and they will never stop complaining until they not only pay zero in taxes, but they will probably even push to be subsodized.

What would you say then? If a big company in your state said, "give us a billion dollars in tax subsodies or we are leaving your state and the US.

Do you know what I would say? Leave!!! And don't ship your shit back here.

And then another start up company in the "free market" will take over for them.

Instead of their CEO making $20 million, he/she might only make $2 million a year.

And the only way wages will go up is if jobs are plentyful. We can't replace the jobs that are leaving fast enough. And Green jobs don't pay as well as the union jobs that left.

That's not a good thing. And that will affect all of us. If wages go down for some, they typically go down for all of us.

If you are a business owner, maybe you don't mind, but as a worker bee, that's bullshit.

And it doesn't help the economy either.

That's the thing about right wing thinking. It just doesn't work.

I get all your talking points. We don't want to tax a company so much that they can't succeed. And we can't be isolationists. But we do need to tax the companies "their fair share" and we do need to protect the American middle class, which is under attack.

So again, what is their fair share?????? You are saying that if they make $20 million a year they are not paying their fair share.... What if they pay 90% in taxes and still make $20 million???? Are they still not paying their fair share???? What is that number? Is it what ever it takes to keep their pay at $2 million a year? Why is it you or the government that should tell these people how much they should make? Also, how is raising taxes on American coporations going to entice corporations to move their operations here?

The government decides how much to tax. Bush decided to not tax them enough.

No one tells them how much to make. The more the better. Same for us. The more I make, the more taxes I pay. Pay me more so I can pay more taxes!!!

And no, I'm not saying that. YOU are saying that.

Entice? Sometimes you use a carrot and sometimes a stick. Sometimes you entice, sometimes you tariff.

got news for ya Maggie.. It is being dealt with.. Business is leaving.. so are rich people,, that's one way of dealing with it.

 

[WillowTree]

Duh!

Blue states had all the manufacturing jobs.

And this would make sense why red states were stupid enough to vote for the status quo. They just don't get it yet.

What manufacturing jobs are there in California and Oregon?

DITTO-- I was just listening to a report--California is the highest tax state in the union--New York comes in a close second. People & Businesse's are leaving these states in groves. Ohio is the 5th highest state tax--& they wonder why they were just passed up by a corporation that would have hired thousands. This corporation set up business in S. Carolina.

DID YOU KNOW: That New Hampshire has no state income tax or sales tax? But their schools are better than most of the nation & grade averages of the students are higher than the national average.

If a tree falls in the forest and a democwat is there does it make any sound?

 

[sealybobo]

So again, what is their fair share?????? You are saying that if they make $20 million a year they are not paying their fair share.... What if they pay 90% in taxes and still make $20 million???? Are they still not paying their fair share???? What is that number? Is it what ever it takes to keep their pay at $2 million a year? Why is it you or the government that should tell these people how much they should make? Also, how is raising taxes on American coporations going to entice corporations to move their operations here?

The government decides how much to tax. Bush decided to not tax them enough.

No one tells them how much to make. The more the better. Same for us. The more I make, the more taxes I pay. Pay me more so I can pay more taxes!!!

And no, I'm not saying that. YOU are saying that.

Entice? Sometimes you use a carrot and sometimes a stick. Sometimes you entice, sometimes you tariff.

got news for ya Maggie.. It is being dealt with.. Business is leaving.. so are rich people,, that's one way of dealing with it.

Well, it is a free market. New business' will replace the ones that leave and new wealth will be created if old money leaves.

And no more taking your money out of the country without paying taxes on it. I have to declare when I take $10K or more to Greece, so these rich people can no longer take millions to Switzerland or the Caymen's without paying Uncle Sam.

The money that is already gone, like all the money Haloburton made in Iraq, will never come back. Nothing we can do about that. But we can close the loopholes so your masters can no longer fuck the country that you supposedly love.

 

[WillowTree]

And I spent an entire day yesterday talking about a PBS special I saw on Sunday explaining what happened to LA.

WW2 started and blacks were recruited to LA to work for GM, Ford, Chrysler and for 30 years black people were very successful in LA. Then the Big 3 left and that had a lot to do with why the riots happened in the 60's and also why south central today is a war zone.

You right wingers can't think this stuff thru. That's why you never solve any problems.

You can't solve the economic problems we have now with tax cuts.

We need more jobs. The sooner you admit this, the sooner I stop thinking you are a fucking idiot.

Yes and I reminded you yesterday that the democwats took california down just like the did michigan,, ohio,, tsk tsk tsk taxed your own dumb asses right outta business.

You may have said that, but you certainly didn't [prove it or explain how. You just said it. Any fool can say anything they want. You prove it daily.

Did you go to college? Did you ever work? What have you accomplished?

I did explain it thusly.. the democwats in california and michigan and ohio have such huge taxes they are not business friendly, the ecological nutcases add fuel to the fire., business' and rich people are exiting the states...why are we buying foreign oil doyathink????????

 

[WillowTree]

The government decides how much to tax. Bush decided to not tax them enough.

No one tells them how much to make. The more the better. Same for us. The more I make, the more taxes I pay. Pay me more so I can pay more taxes!!!

And no, I'm not saying that. YOU are saying that.

Entice? Sometimes you use a carrot and sometimes a stick. Sometimes you entice, sometimes you tariff.

got news for ya Maggie.. It is being dealt with.. Business is leaving.. so are rich people,, that's one way of dealing with it.

Well, it is a free market. New business' will replace the ones that leave and new wealth will be created if old money leaves.

And no more taking your money out of the country without paying taxes on it. I have to declare when I take $10K or more to Greece, so these rich people can no longer take millions to Switzerland or the Caymen's without paying Uncle Sam.

The money that is already gone, like all the money Haloburton made in Iraq, will never come back. Nothing we can do about that. But we can close the loopholes so your masters can no longer fuck the country that you supposedly love.

sure they can,, little bits at a time.. 5 people can take 9999.99 each trip.. that's fifty grand.. ten people can take,,,, there are lots and lots of ways to move money honey

 

[sealybobo]

got news for ya Maggie.. It is being dealt with.. Business is leaving.. so are rich people,, that's one way of dealing with it.

Well, it is a free market. New business' will replace the ones that leave and new wealth will be created if old money leaves.

And no more taking your money out of the country without paying taxes on it. I have to declare when I take $10K or more to Greece, so these rich people can no longer take millions to Switzerland or the Caymen's without paying Uncle Sam.

The money that is already gone, like all the money Haloburton made in Iraq, will never come back. Nothing we can do about that. But we can close the loopholes so your masters can no longer fuck the country that you supposedly love.

sure they can,, little bits at a time.. 5 people can take 9999.99 each trip.. that's fifty grand.. ten people can take,,,, there are lots and lots of ways to move money honey

Thanks for supporting our airlines stupid. Do the math. The airline tickets alone will make it not worth the effort. And they check you pretty good when you are going through customs.

You aren't very smart, are you?

So you'll take 101 trips to take $1 million out of the country? $1000 a ticket? So you'll pay $100K or 10%? May as well keep it here.

 

[KMAN]

Exactly! Good point. Does our government have a surplus or deficit?

And remember when gas was $4? That fucked your bills up, right?

So clearly you pay more than your share in taxes.

Now after seeing how these mega corporations are sheltering their $ offshore and so are 50,000 of our richest Americans (UBS), I would say that they are NOT paying their fair share.

Lets say pre Reagan they were paying too much. Ok fine, so Reagan lowered their taxes. FINE. But then Bush 2 came in and lowered them too much.

And no matter how low he makes them, 3rd world countries labor costs are still lower than they are here, so they will still leave the country if the politicans allow them, and they will never stop complaining until they not only pay zero in taxes, but they will probably even push to be subsodized.

What would you say then? If a big company in your state said, "give us a billion dollars in tax subsodies or we are leaving your state and the US.

Do you know what I would say? Leave!!! And don't ship your shit back here.

And then another start up company in the "free market" will take over for them.

Instead of their CEO making $20 million, he/she might only make $2 million a year.

And the only way wages will go up is if jobs are plentyful. We can't replace the jobs that are leaving fast enough. And Green jobs don't pay as well as the union jobs that left.

That's not a good thing. And that will affect all of us. If wages go down for some, they typically go down for all of us.

If you are a business owner, maybe you don't mind, but as a worker bee, that's bullshit.

And it doesn't help the economy either.

That's the thing about right wing thinking. It just doesn't work.

I get all your talking points. We don't want to tax a company so much that they can't succeed. And we can't be isolationists. But we do need to tax the companies "their fair share" and we do need to protect the American middle class, which is under attack.

So again, what is their fair share?????? You are saying that if they make $20 million a year they are not paying their fair share.... What if they pay 90% in taxes and still make $20 million???? Are they still not paying their fair share???? What is that number? Is it what ever it takes to keep their pay at $2 million a year? Why is it you or the government that should tell these people how much they should make? Also, how is raising taxes on American coporations going to entice corporations to move their operations here?

Look, indexing (income bracketing) has been going on since 1917. You need to stop pretending this is all some new elaborate tax plan belonging strictly to Obama. It fluctuates among the majority party, with Reagan lowering the highest percentage, Clinton bringing it back up, Bush lowering it again, and now Obama trying to raise it back to where it was during the Clinton administration.

Deal with it.

So, again I ask what is their fair share????

 

[KMAN]

Exactly! Good point. Does our government have a surplus or deficit?

And remember when gas was $4? That fucked your bills up, right?

So clearly you pay more than your share in taxes.

Now after seeing how these mega corporations are sheltering their $ offshore and so are 50,000 of our richest Americans (UBS), I would say that they are NOT paying their fair share.

Lets say pre Reagan they were paying too much. Ok fine, so Reagan lowered their taxes. FINE. But then Bush 2 came in and lowered them too much.

And no matter how low he makes them, 3rd world countries labor costs are still lower than they are here, so they will still leave the country if the politicans allow them, and they will never stop complaining until they not only pay zero in taxes, but they will probably even push to be subsodized.

What would you say then? If a big company in your state said, "give us a billion dollars in tax subsodies or we are leaving your state and the US.

Do you know what I would say? Leave!!! And don't ship your shit back here.

And then another start up company in the "free market" will take over for them.

Instead of their CEO making $20 million, he/she might only make $2 million a year.

And the only way wages will go up is if jobs are plentyful. We can't replace the jobs that are leaving fast enough. And Green jobs don't pay as well as the union jobs that left.

That's not a good thing. And that will affect all of us. If wages go down for some, they typically go down for all of us.

If you are a business owner, maybe you don't mind, but as a worker bee, that's bullshit.

And it doesn't help the economy either.

That's the thing about right wing thinking. It just doesn't work.

I get all your talking points. We don't want to tax a company so much that they can't succeed. And we can't be isolationists. But we do need to tax the companies "their fair share" and we do need to protect the American middle class, which is under attack.

So again, what is their fair share?????? You are saying that if they make $20 million a year they are not paying their fair share.... What if they pay 90% in taxes and still make $20 million???? Are they still not paying their fair share???? What is that number? Is it what ever it takes to keep their pay at $2 million a year? Why is it you or the government that should tell these people how much they should make? Also, how is raising taxes on American coporations going to entice corporations to move their operations here?

The government decides how much to tax. Bush decided to not tax them enough.

No one tells them how much to make. The more the better. Same for us. The more I make, the more taxes I pay. Pay me more so I can pay more taxes!!!

And no, I'm not saying that. YOU are saying that.

Entice? Sometimes you use a carrot and sometimes a stick. Sometimes you entice, sometimes you tariff.

So you are saying corporations not paying enough taxes is why we we have such a high deficit today???? Then why was everything fine until 2006? Weren't tax lowered when Bush first took office?

I guess it has nothing to do with how much our government has spent the past 10 years...

Stop the spending and you don't have to tax more... It sounds as if you would rather keep the spending where it is (even though we have no idea where the money is going) then reduce spending and keep more of your income... That just sounds crazy to me to trust the government to spend your money.

 

[Sinatra]

We need more jobs. The sooner you admit this, the sooner I stop thinking you are a fucking idiot.

You miss the point bobo, 'jobs' don't spring up from thin air or the voting boothe.

Jobs come from INDUSTRY, are created by BUSINESS and maintained by CORPORATIONS.

What three things in that last sentance are the left hostile too?

High taxes hurt jobs?

Who knew?

Isn't it interesting how the private sector job losses are far more significant than the public sector? Last month the government actually added 79000 jobs. As the private sector shrinks, the government sector grows. Add to that Obama's blurring of a private company and the unions - where in the auto industry the two are becoming one and the same, this expansion is even more pronounced.

This is basically California economics 101. Sure worked out well for them...

First a Manufacturing Meltdown, Now a Private Sector Jobs Meltdown?