You want to hear a liar lie right to your face?

[Polk]

Only if you refuse to check spending. Most of us don't spend what we don't have. I keep forgeting it's the hysterical, thieving lefties who are talking.

It would be a lot easier to take those claims seriously if spending were actually cut. Of course, it doesn't really happen, because the Republicans aren't going to cut defense spending for ideological reasons and they're not going to cut Social Security benefits or slash Medicare service because that'll piss off old people, and by the time you've eliminated all of those as areas for possible cuts, that's over three-fourths of the budget.

We'd sure as shit eliminate a lot of spending on welfare, however. That's something you all won't discuss. We'd also eliminate a lot of frou-frou crap, and cut the chains of industry. Something you also won't discuss.

In the FY 2009 budget submitted by President Bush (without taking into account TARP and other programs passed later), you could completely gut the departments of Education and HUD and cut unemployment benefits, other forms of welfare, Medicaid, and SCHIP in half, and you'd still be left with a deficit.

 

[Charles Stucker]

December 21, 2009
RUSH: Merry Christmas, happy holidays to all of you from all of us here at the Excellence in Broadcasting Network. You want to hear a liar lie? You want to hear a liar lie right to your face?

RUSH: This man [Obama] has spent more deficit money in one year than the Bush eight years in total, ladies and gentlemen.

How does Rush explain Bush Doubling the deficit?

How about Reagan Tripling the deficit?

How do you explain a Democratic congress having more debt increase in two years under Bush than the Republicans in six?

 

[uscitizen]

It would be a lot easier to take those claims seriously if spending were actually cut. Of course, it doesn't really happen, because the Republicans aren't going to cut defense spending for ideological reasons and they're not going to cut Social Security benefits or slash Medicare service because that'll piss off old people, and by the time you've eliminated all of those as areas for possible cuts, that's over three-fourths of the budget.

We'd sure as shit eliminate a lot of spending on welfare, however. That's something you all won't discuss. We'd also eliminate a lot of frou-frou crap, and cut the chains of industry. Something you also won't discuss.

In the FY 2009 budget submitted by President Bush (without taking into account TARP and other programs passed later), you could completely gut the departments of Education and HUD and cut unemployment benefits, other forms of welfare, Medicaid, and SCHIP in half, and you'd still be left with a deficit.

also his budget was submitted in Feb 2008 and supplemental war spending was tacked onto that budget as well.

 

[uscitizen]

December 21, 2009
RUSH: Merry Christmas, happy holidays to all of you from all of us here at the Excellence in Broadcasting Network. You want to hear a liar lie? You want to hear a liar lie right to your face?

RUSH: This man [Obama] has spent more deficit money in one year than the Bush eight years in total, ladies and gentlemen.

How does Rush explain Bush Doubling the deficit?

How about Reagan Tripling the deficit?

How do you explain a Democratic congress having more debt increase in two years under Bush than the Republicans in six?

Umm the effects of having Republicans in charge for 6 years?

Seriously do the math dude, do not believe the Limpballs lies.

 

[LuckyDan]

Ah, the smoke and mirrors of barryworship continue.

Bad news kiddies, barry's 'Porkulus' is included in that 2009 number, and it wasn't chimp that did that.

NEXT.

From the Brookings speech:

OBAMA: One of the central goals of this administration is restoring fiscal responsibility. The deficit had been building dramatically over the previous eight years. Folks passed tax cuts and expansive entitlement programs without paying for any of it, even as health care costs kept rising year after year. These budget-busting tax cuts and spending programs were approved by many of the same people who are now waxing political about fiscal responsibility while opposing our efforts to reduce deficits by getting health care costs under control. It's a sight to see.

As Rush said, except for the tax cuts, BO supported all of it.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

How did Obama quadruple it? Didn't they just set the debt ceiling to 13 trillion or something. It was near 11 trillion I think before he whose name we will not speak left office.

That's a lovely self portrait you have for your avatar....now we know why you rode the short bus to school before you dropped out...ANYWAY....

the key words you just spoke were RAISED THE DEBT CEILING TO 13 TRILLION DOLLARS... Hmmmmm I wonder why that was...maybe Rush is onto something...Obama is deficit spending like a jonesin' crackhead in Compton.....yet you on the left say absolutely NOTHING!!! Why??? Because you lefttards think you will get something for nothing as usual...gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme I I I I I I I I now now now now now now now now now ...Bush did it.

 

[uscitizen]

Bush submitted the 2009 budget with lots of Porkulus in it and it is still there. Plus more I expect.

 

[Dr Grump]

...and all the other pretty red lines are projected for BO's and his successors.

Thanks George for starting all this!

 

[driveby]

December 21, 2009
RUSH: Merry Christmas, happy holidays to all of you from all of us here at the Excellence in Broadcasting Network. You want to hear a liar lie? You want to hear a liar lie right to your face?

RUSH: This man [Obama] has spent more deficit money in one year than the Bush eight years in total, ladies and gentlemen.

Rush Limbaugh owns you........

 

[NYcarbineer]

How the hell do tax cuts equal spending?

Is that what rdean's saying?

And shit if I can tell WHAT Ed's saying. Is he saying Obama's a liar, or Rush is???

When the country is at war, tax cuts do indeed equal spending. Not just spending, but deficit building spending. How can you not understand that? It's so obvious.

So obvious that you missed it completely.

All revenue taken in by the Federal government must FIRST be spent upon defense. That is the ONLY authorized spending in the Constitution.

You divide what is left among the other federal spending programs. That means that what is left over is considered 'deficit' spending.

In fact, The largest entitlement programs are what causes a budget deficit.

That is the funniest post I've read all week.

...but in fairness the week is young.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yup.

So wouldn't that add in the neighborhood of, conservatively, 100 billion a year to the deficit for 5 or 6 years of Bush's presidency?

Or whatever the figure is? Is there a reason we're not counting THAT in these calculations?

The $$$ for wars are always in the budget. They have to fund it for crying out loud--so the cost is going to be in the budget.

Where do you people get this crap from? HELLO---

It's still in the budget. The cost of the Iraq & Afganistan war.

jeezus even the Heritage Foundation knows you're full of shit:

Time to Move Iraq and Afghanistan Funding into the Regular Budget Process

 

[edthecynic]

Actually Bush's deficit does include the cost of war -the spending for it came from emergency funding at first but that spending doesn't just disappear from the books. It IS absolutely part of his final deficit total. But Bush's eight years still can't hold a candle to just Obama's first half year in office when it comes to budget deficits, sorry. But let's pretend it is no big deal whatsoever that Obama QUADRUPLED Bush's final budget deficit in just his first six months. Gee, took EIGHT YEARS for Bush's deficit total and just SIX MONTHS for Obama to quadruple that. OF COURSE it means the deficit under Bush MUST have been worse -because hey, he's a REPUBLICAN and Obama isn't! So let's all insist Bush's deficit that was 1/4 the size Obama created in just his first half year in office was the one that was actually so out-of-control instead. ROFL God save us all from the useful idiots of the left.

When caught lying CON$ simply lie some more.

I've already debunked the 8 year total lie, now for the Obama quadrupled Bush's final budget in 6 months.
I've already posted LimpBoy saying that Obama's total debt for all of 2009 is 1.5 trillion.
Bush's last year of debt was 1.4 trillion. Only in CON$ervative "Fuzzy Math" is 1.4 trillion 4 times half of 1.5 trillion.

Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

In Bush's last year January 20, 2001, the national debt was:
$9,188,640,287,930.39
When "W" left office on January 20, 2009, the national debt was"
$10,626,877,048,913.08.
The growth in the national debt during his last year in office:
$1,438,236,760,982.69

You're comparing America's accumulated debt when Bush was in office, to the debt Obama has racked up BY HIMSELF since he took office.

Not only that, I don't trust your numbers.

No, it's your lying MessiahRushie who compared Bush's 8 years to Obama's first year originally, but the above comparison was Bush's $1.4 trillion last year only. And I gave you the link to the debt calculator so you could check the numbers yourself. You have swallowed the Bush kool-aid so long you just refuse to believe the real numbers.

December 8, 2009
RUSH:* In one year Barack Obama has added more to the deficit than George Bush did in eight years.*

 

[edthecynic]

PS...comparing the gross cumulative national debt to Obama's one year accrued national debt is dishonest, btw, and really erodes credibility on any issue.

"...the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that, including the record 2009 budget deficit of $1.85 trillion, and huge annual deficits over 2009-2019 will result in an additional $11.1 trillion in national debt, on top of the current $11.4 trillion."
Obama On Course To Double National Debt - Forecasts & Trends - InvestorsInsight.com | Financial Intelligence, Advice & Research / Investment Strategies & Planning for Individual Investors.

That of course was an article written just a few months into Obama's spree, and the CBO was wildly optimistic at that time.

Obama spent 3 x more in his first year than Bush did in his last:
"The latest high-point is not unexpected, considering the federal deficit for the just-ended 2009 fiscal year hit an all-time high at $1.42-trillion – more than triple the previous year's record high."


National Debt Now Tops $12 Trillion - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

No matter how many times you repeat that lie it will still be a lie.
Bush ran up a debt of $1.4 trillion in his last year, but in typical dishonest CON$ervative fashion, he hid $1 trillion of it by keeping it off budget knowing fools like you would be too stupid to catch him.

 

[edthecynic]

How did Obama quadruple it? Didn't they just set the debt ceiling to 13 trillion or something. It was near 11 trillion I think before he whose name we will not speak left office.

Budget deficit to top $1.8 trillion; 4 times 2008's record...
With the economy performing worse than hoped, revised White House figures point to deepening budget deficits, with the government borrowing almost 50 cents for every dollar it spends this year.

The deficit for the current budget year will rise by $89 billion to above $1.8 trillion -- about four times the record set just last year.
High U.S. budget deficits are being driven by an economic crisis that President Barack Obama inherited, White House Budget Director Peter Orszag said on Monday.

Oh no, no, no, no. You mean to tell me that Bush's economy was so bad, his spending was so bad, that the only way to fix it is to spend 4 times more than Bush ever did? No sir, the budget deficit belongs entirely to Obama. Blaming Bush for Obama's socialist policies is just weak, it is just escapism, it is just deferring atrocious spending policies onto a whipping boy. Man up, and take some credit for your own actions Obama. Bush may have made many fiscal mistakes, but he didn't blame it on Clinton.
Notoriously Conservative: Obama's Budget Deficit 4 times Larger Than Bush's

Yet another moron parroting GOP hate media without checking anything.

Bush's 2008 deficit was over $1.4 trillion.

And Bush blamed his 2001 recession on Clinton, and blamed his 2007 depression on Carter and Clinton.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

When the country is at war, tax cuts do indeed equal spending. Not just spending, but deficit building spending. How can you not understand that? It's so obvious.

So obvious that you missed it completely.

All revenue taken in by the Federal government must FIRST be spent upon defense. That is the ONLY authorized spending in the Constitution.

You divide what is left among the other federal spending programs. That means that what is left over is considered 'deficit' spending.

In fact, The largest entitlement programs are what causes a budget deficit.

That is the funniest post I've read all week.

...but in fairness the week is young.

The single largest budgetary item in the U.S. government is Social Security and Medicare...accounting for 60%+....that is a fact. Right now Social Security accounts for nearly 6 trillion dollars of our National Debt....that is a fact.

 

[uscitizen]

And SS is still showing a positive cash flow.

that 6 trillion is previous surplus money that our gummit has spent on other things and must repay to the SS program.

Surely you know this though?

I thought the amount owed was more like 3 milliion?

welch on a debt to uscitizens?

 

[bourne87]

December 21, 2009
RUSH: Merry Christmas, happy holidays to all of you from all of us here at the Excellence in Broadcasting Network. You want to hear a liar lie? You want to hear a liar lie right to your face?

RUSH: This man [Obama] has spent more deficit money in one year than the Bush eight years in total, ladies and gentlemen.

I was excited to see what this lie was, thinking O boy! but then I see Rush and I start to doze off into a wonderful sleep where I don't hear his voice, It seemed like heaven.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

And SS is still showing a positive cash flow.

that 6 trillion is previous surplus money that our gummit has spent on other things and must repay to the SS program.

Surely you know this though?

I thought the amount owed was more like 3 milliion?

welch on a debt to uscitizens?

Operative word..."repay". What is the interest on 6 trillion dollars at todays rates.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

And SS is still showing a positive cash flow.

that 6 trillion is previous surplus money that our gummit has spent on other things and must repay to the SS program.

Surely you know this though?

I thought the amount owed was more like 3 milliion?

welch on a debt to uscitizens?

and yes....they are projecting reduced benefits by 2017 when that positive cash flow you're touting becomes a NEGATIVE cash flow. Anyone born after 1960 can now no longer retire at 62. They have to wait....and then get reduced benefits...maybe 70% of what they were promised...

 

[uscitizen]

And SS is still showing a positive cash flow.

that 6 trillion is previous surplus money that our gummit has spent on other things and must repay to the SS program.

Surely you know this though?

I thought the amount owed was more like 3 milliion?

welch on a debt to uscitizens?

and yes....they are projecting reduced benefits by 2017 when that positive cash flow you're touting becomes a NEGATIVE cash flow. Anyone born after 1960 can now no longer retire at 62. They have to wait....and then get reduced benefits...maybe 70% of what they were promised...

If more young whippersnappers would grab their bootstraps and pull themselves up to a higher standard of living. Well there would be more SS funds flowing in so no problem.
It is all the fault of the young.