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    As you know, the Government has been flimflamming around for the past few years messin’ with the weekly Unemployment Insurance Claims numbers. They take the weekly Unemployment Insurance claims (Which are an actual number of people who have filed for Unemployment Insurance in the fifty United States, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia) and then add numbers for the ratio of people who did not apply but might be waiting to do so and then subtract any number that they do not like and then add in a fudge factor to confuse the sheeple public to make them believe whatever the Federal Government wants them to believe about The Direction of Unemployment. After all of that, the people are so dang blasted confused that they do not know if they are dealing with weekly numbers, or monthly numbers, or whatever.

    They take real hard numbers and screw them up and then lie like ‘ell about it. They have been doing this in ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE fashion since Obama took office. Please write your congressmen about getting the DOL to tell the truth to the taxpayers and stop this Flim Flam Crap!!!!

    Supposedly these absurd alterations to the hard numbers of unfortunates is done to average “between the seasons.”

    I don’t know about this. We don’t average between the seasons for automobile fatalities, so why average between the seasons for job deaths? Once you see what I am going to post below, I have no choice but to ask you, “How long is a season?” Gosh, it looks to me that a season lasts about two to three weeks.

    Here are the actual numbers from the DOL site. U.S. Department of Labor: Employment & Training Administration (ETA) News Releases

    Just to show you that there is no continuity to the so-called “Seasonal Adjustments” that they make, look at this:

    June 20, adjusted figure 627,000 unadjusted, totaled 566,586
    June 27, adjusted figure 614,000, unadjusted, totaled 556,863 (ADJUSTED WENT DOWN, UNADJUSTED WENT DOWN)
    July 4, the adjusted figure 565,000, unadjusted, totaled 577,506 (ADJUSTED WENT DOWN, UNADJUSTED WENT UP)
    July 11 the adjusted figure 522,000, unadjusted, totaled 667,534 (ADJUSTED WENT DOWN, UNADJUSTED WENT UP)
    July 18 the adjusted figure 554,000, unadjusted, totaled 580,944 (ADJUSTED WENT UP, UNADJUSTED WENT DOWN)
    July 25 the adjusted figure 584,000, unadjusted, totaled 507,464 (ADJUSTED WENT UP, UNADJUSTED WENT DOWN)
    Aug. 1, the adjusted figure 550,000, unadjusted, totaled 463,062 (ADJUSTED WENT DOWN, UNADJUSTED WENT DOWN)
    Aug. 8, the adjusted figure 558,000, unadjusted, totaled 479,824 (ADJUSTED WENT UP, UNADJUSTED WENT UP)
    Aug. 15, the adjusted figure 576,000, unadjusted, totaled 454,216 (ADJUSTED WENT UP, UNADJUSTED WENT DOWN)
    Aug. 22, the adjusted figure 570,000, unadjusted, totaled 453,936 (ADJUSTED WENT DOWN, UNADJUSTED WENT DOWN)
    Aug. 29, the adjusted figure 570,000, unadjusted, totaled 452,271 (ADJUSTED STAYED FLAT, UNADJUSTED WENT DOWN)
    Sept. 5, the adjusted figure 550,000, unadjusted, totaled 460,516 (ADJUSTED WENT DOWN, UNADJUSTED WENT UP)

    “What the hay, you say!” but that is what has been happening for the past few months. They have finally manipulated the numbers to put them in a position to try to swing public opinion into believing that the economy is now improving. Obama’s policy is anything that the docile ignorant public (Sheeple) will believe.

    ACTUAL INITIAL CLAIMS KEEP ON GOING UP AND UP AND UP, week after week!
    But the make believe numbers try to trick you into believing that the numbers are going down. Look at these wonderful “Seasonal Adjustments!”

    Actual 407,869 in the week ending Sept. 12. Make believe 545,000
    Actual 434,358 in the week ending Sept. 19. Make believe 530,000
    Actual 449,375 in the week ending Oct. 3. Make believe 521,000
    Actual 460,449 in the week ending Oct. 17. Make believe 531,000
    Actual 492,456 in the week ending Oct. 24. Make believe 530,000
    Actual 529,446 in the week ending Nov. 7. Make believe 502,000
    Actual 543,926 in the week ending Nov. 21. Make believe 466,000

    The government keeps telling the public that the UI Claims numbers are plummeting, while the actual “real people” numbers are soaring. All of these so-called “economists” need to be put in prison for this deliberate deception of the American People (Sheeple).

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    None dare call it Treason, but it is. Time to rise up and put a stop to this corrupt nonsense.
     
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    When you get right down to it, this massive a degree of corruption is frightening. This amount of deception is right up there with the Nazi Minister of Propaganda, Josef Goebbles.
     
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    For those wondering about Neubarth's distortions (he has me on ignore), let's take a look:
    I have no clue where he got that idea. "Seasonal adjustment" refers to a statistical methodology, long established in the scientific community, of correcting for periodic, predictable changes. It's like measuring water level of the ocean...if you don't take the tides into account, you'll get a misleading picture of what's actually happening. The name comes from roughly seasonal trends, such as hiring at swimming pools or ski resorts and prices of sweaters and bikinis, but no one besides Neubarth has ever claimed that it's to "average between the seasons" or that the traditional seasons are a strict factor. There are vast difference in hiring trends between early November and late November, for example. And the price of roses goes up considerably in the first two weeks of February.

    Because fatalities are not measured on a month to month basis. They're reported as annual figures. IF they were reported month to month or week to week, then they would be seasonally adjusted.

    Only if you're moronic enough to take the term literally. And if you read up on the subject, even in wikipedia, you'll learn not to take the term literally.
     
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    Now the pathological liars of the world will try to tell you that the Manipulation of the hard numbers of Unemployment Insurance claims is to even out the peaks and valleys. Hell, as you can see, they have been adding to the peaks and taking away from the valleys. Their inverse manipulation of the numbers is easy to see from the data that I posted. When the actual numbers of UI claims were falling almost back to normal, the Manipulated numbers were soaring to 600,000. Not one of those lying pinko commies who support Obamification of our great country can rationally explain that. All they can do is lie to try to deceive the honest people of America.

    As you know we have monthly statistics on automobile accidents and even vacation period stats on automobile mortality. The Government does not adjust them. But they will play games with unemployment stats to try to delude the public. They are doing it to excess right now.

    Mind you that the gross manipulation of the numbers (as is easily seen in the statistics that I posted) show that there is no attempt to even things out even if they call them "Seasonal Adjustments." Their corrupt and dishonest words, not mine.

    Lie after lie after lie after lie from the present administration. They even come on this board with their insane lies, but it is very easy to see through. Place the pathological liars on ignore and write your congressmen about putting these clowns in jail where they belong.

    One of the liars who come on this board to spew the Obama lies even admits that he is a Commie Pinko. I have that Communist/socialist son of a bitch on ignore.

    The Idaho militia wants to have these corrupt clowns executed. I don't favor that, but I can understand why the Idaho militia is that upset. They want total honesty from government. I guess that is not too much to ask.

    Once we put the entire Obama administration and all the communist fellow travelers (sputniks) in prison where they belong, we can demand honesty from government. If we don't get it then, we can start executing the pinkos.
     
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    No, noone will tell you that. It's not to even out the peaks and valleys. It's to compensate for predictable, regular variations. That can result in greater peaks and lower valleys. If for example in a particular industry hiring usually goes up during a certain month, and this particular month it goes down instead, seasonal adjustment will show it going down even more than the actual decline. And vice versa. It's not a smoothing out, but adjusting for "noise."
     

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