You Just Can't Raise a Post-Racial Child

My children are all members of a multi-racial family, obviously, since their father is half-Chinese, and various other relatives are black, Cherokee, Korean, Vietnamese, and Mexican. Although they are, obviously, aware of these racial and ethnic facts, it has been literally in the same sense that they're aware of some of their relatives have brown eyes, some blue, and some green.

In fact, my teenaged son was twelve before he ever encountered the concept of racism at all (we were aided in this by the fact that he was homeschooled, and all his extra-familial contacts were with our own friends, who obviously aren't going to be racists). I remember we were watching "Flags of Our Fathers", and he was utterly bewildered about why everyone was being so mean to the Native American guy. The movie doesn't explain WHY people automatically disliked and abused him, because the writers assumed everyone watching knew and understood about the concept of racism. Nicky didn't, though. I had to explain to him how Native Americans were viewed in the 1940s, and why, and while I did, he stared at me as though I had lost my mind. It was as bewildering to him AFTER he knew what racism was as it had been before.

Bearing this background in mind, Nicky got in a fight with another student at his school late last week., because the other student started making racist remarks and insults at Nicky about his Asian blood. Nicky reported it to the teacher, as he's supposed to do, and for some odd reason, her response was to say, "You boys need to settle down and behave yourselves"! Of course, the other boy didn't, and when Nicky started to get angry and told him to knock it off, he hit Nicky and they wound up in a fight.

The upshot being that the school has a "zero tolerance" policy for violence (although not for racism, apparently), and I have to transfer Nicky to a new school. That the policy applied to both boys doesn't make me any less annoyed. And yes, for anyone who's going to ask, I have filed a formal complaint about the teacher's pathetic handling of the situation.

So our new policy in our family, which I really hate, is that if and when this situation comes up again (because it will; there are still too many ignorant savages in the world), Nicky is to report it SPECIFICALLY in these terms: "So-and-so is making RACIST remarks to me." If the offender is not then IMMEDIATELY removed to the office to be dealt with, Nicky is to call or text me THAT INSTANT, at which point I will call the school, have Nicky brought to the office to meet me, and proceed to rip someone a brand-new Civil Rights asshole.

I resent like hell having gone to so much trouble to create an environment which allows me to raise post-racial children, only to be forced to teach them the language and attitudes of racism ANYWAY. I will be mightily glad when the rest of the country gets past this Neanderthal fixation on such silly shit.

You seem to have your own fixation. You trumpet yourself and your, uh, family by noting their superior multiracialism --- black, Asian, Korean, Indian, my goodness! You're every race on Earth! Moreover, you seem to have a great sense of entitlement as a result of your feelings of superiority: you want instant and drastic action for any slight against your precious superior children, you feel like you gone to "so much trouble" to create an environment for your precious post-racial (whatever the FUCK that means) children, blah blah blah. You want the National Guard called in over your little bullshit complaints. Know what white kids in majority BLACK schools put up with? You probably don't even care.

You know what? Fuck you and your multiracial children. If you want to pop out/adopt/scoop from the gutter all the racial flotsam and jetsam of the Earth, fine. But don't bother us with it. Go on TV and make a show about your stupid life: "The Rainbow Family", blah blah. I'm sure some big-nosed Jew producer will go gaga over it. "Oy, so open-minded you are! We'll show those pasty whites what a real family is! Heh heh!"

Post-racialism sucks. It basically means "fuck whitey" and in with the rest. They should just call it what it is... post-whitism.
 
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Bearing this background in mind, Nicky got in a fight with another student at his school late last week., because the other student started making racist remarks and insults at Nicky about his Asian blood.

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Been there. You know what the sad truth is? If your son were black or Hispanic, he would have been protected. True story.
 
just parroting their ignorant redneck parents.
Did you tell little Nicky to call them "rednecks" as you do?

I imagine he'll figure that out on his own. And no, "redneck" isn't a racial term. It refers to a specific sort of life attitude, much the same as when I called ekrem "trash".

In all honesty, I'm not sure I even KNOW any racist terms for white people in general that aren't thirty years out of date.
 
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Bearing this background in mind, Nicky got in a fight with another student at his school late last week., because the other student started making racist remarks and insults at Nicky about his Asian blood.

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Been there. You know what the sad truth is? If your son were black or Hispanic, he would have been protected. True story.

Perhaps. It's odd to me that someone who's technically more white than anything is getting hassled as "that Asian kid". Guess the old "one drop is too much" theory never goes out of style.

And it's just damned sad that people still care about shit like this at all.
 
And no, "redneck" isn't a racial term.
Redneck is a historically derogatory slang term used in reference to poor white farmers in the Southern United States.[1] [2] It is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks),[3] and white trash.

Redneck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like I said, it refers to a life attitude, aka the one commonly found among poor white trash, which typically includes bigotry.

I don't give a damn that the kid's white. It's the "trash" part that annoys me. Hell, I have distant cousins who are Klan members, and I call THEM "redneck" too. I won't repeat what they call me.
 
And no, "redneck" isn't a racial term.
Redneck is a historically derogatory slang term used in reference to poor white farmers in the Southern United States.[1] [2] It is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks),[3] and white trash.

Redneck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sounds like you are describing yourself Tan. Well, that's how I imagine you in my mind's eye
 
So if little Nicky was called a redneck, you would be fine with that?
 
Ekrem

I think you are missing the point. I don't think Cec is happy that she has to get her son to call her if the shit hits the fan. In fact, it sounds like she wants him to deal with it, but that is a pretty hard thing to do when the school teacher is acting like a fucking idiot.
 
There is tension between 2 male teenagers who can't control their temperament in puberty.
One of the teenager tells the other aggressive one: "Wait, I've to phone my Mom first".
He'll get mobbed even more.

15 years old teenagers, that's no racism what is happening between them.
Those specific remarks are just an instrument, easily replaceable with other remarks.
Yeah. I'm still wondering how this sheltered child made it to age twelve never knowing anything about racism. What books did it read, hansel and gretle?
 
My children are all members of a multi-racial family, obviously, since their father is half-Chinese, and various other relatives are black, Cherokee, Korean, Vietnamese, and Mexican. Although they are, obviously, aware of these racial and ethnic facts, it has been literally in the same sense that they're aware of some of their relatives have brown eyes, some blue, and some green.

In fact, my teenaged son was twelve before he ever encountered the concept of racism at all (we were aided in this by the fact that he was homeschooled, and all his extra-familial contacts were with our own friends, who obviously aren't going to be racists). I remember we were watching "Flags of Our Fathers", and he was utterly bewildered about why everyone was being so mean to the Native American guy. The movie doesn't explain WHY people automatically disliked and abused him, because the writers assumed everyone watching knew and understood about the concept of racism. Nicky didn't, though. I had to explain to him how Native Americans were viewed in the 1940s, and why, and while I did, he stared at me as though I had lost my mind. It was as bewildering to him AFTER he knew what racism was as it had been before.

Bearing this background in mind, Nicky got in a fight with another student at his school late last week., because the other student started making racist remarks and insults at Nicky about his Asian blood. Nicky reported it to the teacher, as he's supposed to do, and for some odd reason, her response was to say, "You boys need to settle down and behave yourselves"! Of course, the other boy didn't, and when Nicky started to get angry and told him to knock it off, he hit Nicky and they wound up in a fight.

The upshot being that the school has a "zero tolerance" policy for violence (although not for racism, apparently), and I have to transfer Nicky to a new school. That the policy applied to both boys doesn't make me any less annoyed. And yes, for anyone who's going to ask, I have filed a formal complaint about the teacher's pathetic handling of the situation.

So our new policy in our family, which I really hate, is that if and when this situation comes up again (because it will; there are still too many ignorant savages in the world), Nicky is to report it SPECIFICALLY in these terms: "So-and-so is making RACIST remarks to me." If the offender is not then IMMEDIATELY removed to the office to be dealt with, Nicky is to call or text me THAT INSTANT, at which point I will call the school, have Nicky brought to the office to meet me, and proceed to rip someone a brand-new Civil Rights asshole.

I resent like hell having gone to so much trouble to create an environment which allows me to raise post-racial children, only to be forced to teach them the language and attitudes of racism ANYWAY. I will be mightily glad when the rest of the country gets past this Neanderthal fixation on such silly shit.

Exactly how were the Native Americans viewed in the 1940s?

Keep in mind a fair number of them served in WWII.

What does them serving in WWII have to do with the fact that, like other minorities, they were subject to a great deal of dislike, prejudice, and abuse due to their race?

Is that your answer?
 
Ekrem

I think you are missing the point. I don't think Cec is happy that she has to get her son to call her if the shit hits the fan. In fact, it sounds like she wants him to deal with it, but that is a pretty hard thing to do when the school teacher is acting like a fucking idiot.
Disagree. Better to teach your son how to respond to racist remarks than have to depend on mommy swooping to the rescue.
 
Ekrem

I think you are missing the point. I don't think Cec is happy that she has to get her son to call her if the shit hits the fan. In fact, it sounds like she wants him to deal with it, but that is a pretty hard thing to do when the school teacher is acting like a fucking idiot.
Disagree. Better to teach your son how to respond to racist remarks than have to depend on mommy swooping to the rescue.

For once I agree with Ravi.
 
Ekrem

I think you are missing the point. I don't think Cec is happy that she has to get her son to call her if the shit hits the fan. In fact, it sounds like she wants him to deal with it, but that is a pretty hard thing to do when the school teacher is acting like a fucking idiot.
Disagree. Better to teach your son how to respond to racist remarks than have to depend on mommy swooping to the rescue.

I have to jump in here and you know I never defend Cecile. But the problem here is there is a no tolerance policy for fighting and not for racism. So if he gets into a fight with the other kid, both will be treated as equally wrong (regardless of circumstances). However, there is no such no tolerance policy for racism, apparently. So she wants the phone call since the kid can't respond in a way that shows strength. If he answers back and gets hit, he is equally wrong (something I think is stupid, but it happens in many schools).

So I wouldn't give her kid too hard a time.

But I do think it's unhealthy for kids to be home schooled because their social skills and ability to deal with these normal tribulations isn't as finely honed as kids who have been in school environments.
 

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