You in the middle class.. Obama thinks you are stupid!

healthmyths

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Obama's SOTU speech replete with appeals to you in the middle class to pick up the pitchforks and wildly attack those that have more money then you reminds me of those leaders in old movies that stirred the crowd to lynchings to violence.

Instead of encouraging, Obama was divisive and worse yet totally dishonest!

FACTS from the IRS tax returns show:
Example of PLUMBERS!!!
11,087,123 Total returns for income reported $40,000 under $50,000 (Plumbers mean annual income $50,360) .
Total TAXABLE returns (meaning they had to pay taxes): 9,308,560
Average Adjusted taxable income: $28,465...(deductions,donations..etc...)
Total TAXES PAID per return $2,832.26
or a TAXABLE RATE OF 5.6%

Teachers:
There are a Total of : 1,485,600 Elementary School Teachers,
The Mean Annual Wage: $54,330 per elementary teacher.
After deductions, there were 17,662,044 Total TAXABLE returns meaning they had to pay taxes: After deductions the Average Adjusted taxable income: $40,599 after deductions,donations..etc...
Total TAXES PAID per return $4,826 A TAXABLE RATE OF 9.2% on gross of $52,000!


HEDGE Fund Managers assume they had net taxable income of $1 million!!!

321,294 total tax returns over $ 1 million at average of $10,483,240 per return

Total tax payments actual receipts to IRS...
$249,019,686,000 on gross income of $1,068,330,120,000

TAXES PAID by those evil wealthy people with $10 million + income???
23.14% of Hedge fund manager gross income PAID IN TAXES

BUT THIS grossly divisive PResident WHO earned $1.5 million he called for closing tax loopholes AND YET
Obama TAKES over $100,000 a year in NET OPERATING LOSSES from stock losses!
Obama Takes 14% off his taxes as a tax loophole of donations!
OBAMA personal tax rate: 24%!!!
 
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You guys are either going to run a man that made over 40 million in two years (without working no less) and paid less then 14% in taxes or another guy who was a shill for government corporations you guys demonize..

No less then three speeches..all of them horrible..were rebuttals to the State of the Union.

It was a great speech. Chock full of facts and vision.
 
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You guys are either going to run a man that made over 40 million in two years (without working no less) and paid less then 14% in taxes or another guy who was a shill for government corporations you guys demonize..

No less then three speeches..all of them horrible..were rebuttals to the State of the Union.

It was a great speech. Chock full of facts and vision.


Yeah, right, "vision." The exact same vision as Vladimir Lenin and Mao Tse Tung.
 
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You guys are either going to run a man that made over 40 million in two years (without working no less) and paid less then 14% in taxes or another guy who was a shill for government corporations you guys demonize..

No less then three speeches..all of them horrible..were rebuttals to the State of the Union.

It was a great speech. Chock full of facts and vision.


Yeah, right, "vision." The exact same vision as Vladimir Lenin and Mao Tse Tung.

Well gone on then.

You point out the parts of the speech that were like that.

He talked about the rich paying their fair share in taxes.

Commies don't tax.

So go ahead.

Oh wait..you hate taxes..don't ya comrade?
 
Well gone on then.

You point out the parts of the speech that were like that.

He talked about the rich paying their fair share in taxes.

Commies don't tax.

So go ahead.

Oh wait..you hate taxes..don't ya comrade?

It appears you are dead wrong:

Karl Marx had a 10-point program for transitioning from wealth and freedom to hand-to-mouth totalitarian hell:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants [those who try to escape the country] and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.
 
If you consider anything Obama is proposing "a heavy graduated progressive income tax," you are seriously lacking standards of comparison. Now, maybe the 91% top marginal rate we had under Eisenhower would qualify.

If Obama were as socialist as you seem to think, or pretend to think, or something, I'd like him a lot better than I do.
 
So Obama continues a republican tax plan.

And democrats get mad at republicans, not Obama, for continuing that plan.


How do Obamabots not realize that he's saying the exact OPPOSITE of what he's done? Was that chip not installed?
 
If you consider anything Obama is proposing "a heavy graduated progressive income tax," you are seriously lacking standards of comparison. Now, maybe the 91% top marginal rate we had under Eisenhower would qualify.

If Obama were as socialist as you seem to think, or pretend to think, or something, I'd like him a lot better than I do.

Whenever you analysis the leftwing agenda you have to keep two things in mind

  1. Liberals always lie about their true intentions.
  2. Incrementalism

When the income tax was originally passed, it's proponents said it would only apply to millionaires, and that the rate would be low. During WW I, the Democrats quickly jacked it up to 75% and it applied to almost everyone.

Lesson: libs will say anything to get their latest scheme approved. The reality of its implementation will vary drastically from what was promised.

The Dims may claim they only wants the rich to pay a little more, but once an increase is passed, they'll lobby for another. Then another, and another and another. The class war never stops.
 
Whenever you analysis the leftwing agenda you have to keep two things in mind

  1. Liberals always lie about their true intentions.
  2. Incrementalism

What this amounts to saying is, "I can believe whatever I want, and it does not need to correspond in any but the most tangential and insignificant way to observed reality."

[Shrug.] Whatever.
 
Yep I am the big dummy in the woods, a member of the middle class, work my freaking ass off to educate my children, feed my family, pay my mortgage, and manage to save for the future because no one else will take care of my stupid ass, a member of the 46% class that pay taxes so the 54% can sit on their ass, whine and demand a free ride.
 
Well gone on then.

You point out the parts of the speech that were like that.

He talked about the rich paying their fair share in taxes.

Commies don't tax.

So go ahead.

Oh wait..you hate taxes..don't ya comrade?

It appears you are dead wrong:

Karl Marx had a 10-point program for transitioning from wealth and freedom to hand-to-mouth totalitarian hell:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants [those who try to escape the country] and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

Um the only one that's comes close is 10.
 

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