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[oreo]

Because everyone must be poorer so government can stay rich?

Do you think we can reverse the trade deficit and get ourselves out of a 13 trillion dollar debt by just cutting spending?

If so, please explain in detail.

The trade deficit isn't the problem...The gubmint spending deficit is.

And yes, we can get out of it by cutting spending...Even though most of the people who are dependent upon Big Daddy Big Gubmint probably will throw hissy fits, it can be done.

To avoid what Obama's economic advisor is now calling for. A national sales tax--a carbon and energy tax--the ONLY way to get this big spending--no limit credit card--Government under control is to CUT spending at every single government level.

It can be done--but we are going to have to elect strict CONSERVATIVES--(who can't be bought off with tax payer dollars)--in all houses to do it.

So get off of that couch--join your local tea party movement and get involved. We don't need any whimpy--whiney politicians replacing all the JERK--off's we already have in Washington D.C.

 

[Dr.House]

To be frank, I want him to let the tax cuts expire and then increase taxes across the board.

There has to come a point when even the staunchest of liberals says "Fuck, we can't afford that shit"...

Hopefully it's sooner rather than later....

 

[Xenophon]

To be frank, I want him to let the tax cuts expire and then increase taxes across the board.

There has to come a point when even the staunchest of liberals says "Fuck, we can't afford that shit"...

Hopefully it's sooner rather than later....

There is?

Somehow I doubt it, they all think there is a bottomless money pit and everything will be ok, all this talk of no money is just 'scare tactics'.

 

[elvis]

To be frank, I want him to let the tax cuts expire and then increase taxes across the board.

There has to come a point when even the staunchest of liberals says "Fuck, we can't afford that shit"...

Hopefully it's sooner rather than later....

There is?

Somehow I doubt it, they all think there is a bottomless money pit and everything will be ok, all this talk of no money is just 'scare tactics'.

it's what Keynes called "legislative will".

 

[Xenophon]

There has to come a point when even the staunchest of liberals says "Fuck, we can't afford that shit"...

Hopefully it's sooner rather than later....

There is?

Somehow I doubt it, they all think there is a bottomless money pit and everything will be ok, all this talk of no money is just 'scare tactics'.

it's what Keynes called "legislative will".

Happily he was ignored.

 

[EriktheRed]

To be frank, I want him to let the tax cuts expire and then increase taxes across the board.

There has to come a point when even the staunchest of liberals says "Fuck, we can't afford that shit"...

Hopefully it's sooner rather than later....

There is?

Somehow I doubt it, they all think there is a bottomless money pit and everything will be ok, all this talk of no money is just 'scare tactics'.

I guess when Cons are against raising taxes even for things they agree with they're the pinnacle of realism.

 

[Oddball]

Do you think we can reverse the trade deficit and get ourselves out of a 13 trillion dollar debt by just cutting spending?

If so, please explain in detail.

The trade deficit isn't the problem...The gubmint spending deficit is.

And yes, we can get out of it by cutting spending...Even though most of the people who are dependent upon Big Daddy Big Gubmint probably will throw hissy fits, it can be done.

There's the big bad chart. We have to cut what? Close to 1.5 trillion annually to get into the black and on our way out of debt?

Guess what....Socialist Insecurity and Medicare/Medicaid (the lion's share of entitlement spending) are busted....Broke...Bankrupt...Ka-frriggin'-put.

Time to deal with it.

Or, like Otter (kinda) said....Ya fucked up, you trusted them.

 

[Article 15]

The trade deficit isn't the problem...The gubmint spending deficit is.

And yes, we can get out of it by cutting spending...Even though most of the people who are dependent upon Big Daddy Big Gubmint probably will throw hissy fits, it can be done.

There's the big bad chart. We have to cut what? Close to 1.5 trillion annually to get into the black and on our way out of debt?

Guess what....Socialist Insecurity and Medicare/Medicaid (the lion's share of entitlement spending) are busted....Broke...Bankrupt...Ka-frriggin'-put.

Time to deal with it.

Or, like Otter (kinda) said....Ya fucked up, you trusted them.

Realistically, those programs aren't going away so you are going to have to find a way to out of it while maintaining them at the same time. For example, I would support raising the retirement age.

 

[Oddball]

Have fun buying your groceries with a truckload of $100,000,000 bills, pal.

 

[FrankieGA]

Hey I got an idea, Here is how we can reduce the National Deficit.

1. Cut funding to uneeded and bloated programs that absolutely do nothing for the American People.
2. Reduce the tax burden on Business' to entice them to bring the jobs back from overseas here to the U.S.
3. Completely Repeal the 16th ammendment immediately.
4. Enact a Flat Tax, Fair Tax, whatever we want to call it.
5. We would be well on our way to FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY
6. Limit Terms so we can get back to Politicians actually working for US

 

[FrankieGA]

You would be OK with raising Retirement Age?
Why not have the Fed's telling us when we can retire?
Why not be responsible for yourself and retire when you feel it is right that you can do so?
Oh wait that makes too much damn sense, I forgot

 

[jillian]

You would be OK with raising Retirement Age?
Why not have the Fed's telling us when we can retire?
Why not be responsible for yourself and retire when you feel it is right that you can do so?
Oh wait that makes too much damn sense, I forgot

when social security began, the average life expectancy was 62 years old. the average life expectancy now is well above 70. if you raise the age at which you can collect social security by 3 years, you save a fortune....particularly with retiring baby boomers sucking up all the air now.

no one is telling you when you can retire. you can retire any time your little heart desires. but if you want to collect social security, then you have to wait til you ask 'mother may i'.

how's that for being responsible for yourself?

 

[FrankieGA]

Point taken, but why not take it a step further and just raise taxes, tell people there is no more social security because we can't afford it. Wouldn't that be the same thing.

One question still remains. How is it the Govt's responsibility to take care of me once I "Retire" Would it not be easier to let people invest their money that the gov't takes for this service and now cannot afford to pay it out ?

 

[Xenophon]

You would be OK with raising Retirement Age?
Why not have the Fed's telling us when we can retire?
Why not be responsible for yourself and retire when you feel it is right that you can do so?
Oh wait that makes too much damn sense, I forgot

when social security began, the average life expectancy was 62 years old. the average life expectancy now is well above 70. if you raise the age at which you can collect social security by 3 years, you save a fortune....particularly with retiring baby boomers sucking up all the air now.

no one is telling you when you can retire. you can retire any time your little heart desires. but if you want to collect social security, then you have to wait til you ask 'mother may i'.

how's that for being responsible for yourself?

Jill, you are admitting the government robs you all your life, and at the time when they are supposed to return YOUR MONEY, the government should change the rules so you never collect.

In essence you are saying SS is a FRAUD, just another revenue stream for big government who cheats people all their lives and at the end wants to reneg on paying.

Those baby boomers paid into the system all their lives, where is the money? Irrisonsible government has been tapping into it for years thinking it was found money and never replacing it.

 

[Sarah G]

Point taken, but why not take it a step further and just raise taxes, tell people there is no more social security because we can't afford it. Wouldn't that be the same thing.

One question still remains. How is it the Govt's responsibility to take care of me once I "Retire" Would it not be easier to let people invest their money that the gov't takes for this service and now cannot afford to pay it out ?

Taxes will be raised and the tax cuts will expire. You were being "taken care of" with the Bush tax cuts. Steps have to be taken so that we can get control.

Additionally, jobs are the focus now that Healthcare has been passed so more jobs, more people paying taxes.

 

[Samson]

Point taken, but why not take it a step further and just raise taxes, tell people there is no more social security because we can't afford it. Wouldn't that be the same thing.

One question still remains. How is it the Govt's responsibility to take care of me once I "Retire" Would it not be easier to let people invest their money that the gov't takes for this service and now cannot afford to pay it out ?

Taxes will be raised and the tax cuts will expire. You were being "taken care of" with the Bush tax cuts. Steps have to be taken so that we can get control.

Additionally, jobs are the focus now that Healthcare has been passed so more jobs, more people paying taxes.

Are you for real or are you the Obama Mega Bot?

 

[Sarah G]

You would be OK with raising Retirement Age?
Why not have the Fed's telling us when we can retire?
Why not be responsible for yourself and retire when you feel it is right that you can do so?
Oh wait that makes too much damn sense, I forgot

when social security began, the average life expectancy was 62 years old. the average life expectancy now is well above 70. if you raise the age at which you can collect social security by 3 years, you save a fortune....particularly with retiring baby boomers sucking up all the air now.

no one is telling you when you can retire. you can retire any time your little heart desires. but if you want to collect social security, then you have to wait til you ask 'mother may i'.

how's that for being responsible for yourself?

I don't think raising the retirement age is a good idea either. As it is, you can't collect the full amount until you are 67 - 70 yrs. old. Medicare is age 66, I believe. Some people just aren't well enough to work that long. They're staying alive longer but not that all that many seniors have quality of life.

Imo, the answer is job creation. Get everyone you can contributing.

 

[FrankieGA]

"Steps have to be taken so that we can get control."

Exactly the problem. You want control of MY money so you can do what YOU feel is right. What a bunch of horse shit. How about this. Instead of me giving money i don't want to give, why don't you just give my portion to the government out of your paycheck? That would make me happy with a system like that. Then I would be free enough to invest, maybe start a business, and be successful so that in the end of my life I wouldn't have to worry about SS. You could take your measley paycheck from them and I could live off of the fruit of my hard work and labor.

That seems fair to me

 

[Sarah G]

Point taken, but why not take it a step further and just raise taxes, tell people there is no more social security because we can't afford it. Wouldn't that be the same thing.

One question still remains. How is it the Govt's responsibility to take care of me once I "Retire" Would it not be easier to let people invest their money that the gov't takes for this service and now cannot afford to pay it out ?

Taxes will be raised and the tax cuts will expire. You were being "taken care of" with the Bush tax cuts. Steps have to be taken so that we can get control.

Additionally, jobs are the focus now that Healthcare has been passed so more jobs, more people paying taxes.

Are you for real or are you the Obama Mega Bot?

I yam what I yam.

 

[Samson]

You would be OK with raising Retirement Age?
Why not have the Fed's telling us when we can retire?
Why not be responsible for yourself and retire when you feel it is right that you can do so?
Oh wait that makes too much damn sense, I forgot

when social security began, the average life expectancy was 62 years old. the average life expectancy now is well above 70. if you raise the age at which you can collect social security by 3 years, you save a fortune....particularly with retiring baby boomers sucking up all the air now.

no one is telling you when you can retire. you can retire any time your little heart desires. but if you want to collect social security, then you have to wait til you ask 'mother may i'.

how's that for being responsible for yourself?

Imo, the answer is job creation. Get everyone you can contributing.

Precisely: Everyone needs to be given a sickle, and a hammer, and they need to get to work so that a centralised authority can determine for them where their production should go!!