You Have Sat Too Long... (fyi long thread)

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    Today, the Obama administration sputters to its inevitable and long awaited denouement. Its standard bearer, revealed finally as not the messiah of the disenfranchised and downtrodden but rather, a feckless Chicago shyster, beholden to the oligarchical elite who paid his way. Hope and change was really little more than smoke and mirrors. His mission, it seems, was to further our descent into socialistic servitude, by destroying the fabric of our society. Sadly, he was mostly successful. We are no longer the country we once were, both at home and abroad, divided, weaker, poorer. We saw it coming, those who were not part and parcel of the spectacle. We had chances to correct the course of events, or to at least slow its progress, but our side was weak, and worse, we had weak leaders. Today, that is no longer true, our chance to be strong once again is at hand.

    British MP, Leo Amery, in May 1940, faced a similar situation, a feckless leader had lead his nation to the brink of destruction, he spoke up at the Norway Debate, with words that sent that leader packing. More on that in a bit.

    Inevitably, since I have been around for more Chief Executives than I really like to admit, I found myself reminiscing on all those Presidents that I have been around long enough to see and what it was that they sold themselves as, the theme, with which they hoped to lead the country by.

    Eisenhower was President when we first arrived, for a short time, but I was far too young to remember him. My folks thought highly of him, possibly for what he did during the war. Kennedy, however, I do remember. He charged us "To ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Kennedy challenged the individual to rise above the collective, and we responded.

    Johnson, on the other hand promised us "The Great Society", nothing more than the big rock candy mountain in reality. With it came, Vietnam escalation, the welfare state, drug epidemics, riots and burnt cities. The inevitable failure of state over the individual.

    Nixon promised us "Peace with Honor". We also got détente with China, agreements with the Soviets and our final withdrawal from Indochina. Were it not for his innate distrust of everyone and everything, he might have been one of the greats, but instead he and we, got Watergate.

    Ford succeeded to the post-Watergate morass. Though always tainted by the Nixon pardon, he hoped to rebuild the nation's economy by reaffirming what made us great. Famously he said regarding the Federal bureaucracy, "We... declared our independence 200 years ago, and we are not about to lose it to paper shufflers and computers." Again, the individual rising above the state.

    Carter on the other hand, promised "I will never lie to you". I suppose he kept that promise, but accomplished little else than driving up interest rates, driving down the military, having an embassy seized and raising taxes.

    Reagan, asked us "Are you better off than you were four years ago?..." and we were not. Through sound conservative policies, he crushed the Soviet Union, rebuilt the economy and did it by lowering taxes and increasing the tax base. The ultimate individualist, he lead us to bettering ourselves.

    Bush the Elder, imagined "A thousand points of light... that are spread throughout the nation doing good". He was hung by "no new taxes" when the left lead congress would not meet his budget requirements without tax increases.

    Clinton said "Its time to change America". Why? Eight forgettable years of scandal and decline. Leftism at its finest.

    Bush the Younger hoped to bring "Compassionate Conservatism" to Washington. Might have been were it not for 9/11, Iraq & Dodd-Frank. An ignominious statist failure.

    Which brings us back to BHO. Leo Amery, in Parliament on May 7, 1940, brought to a head in eloquent terms, the failure of then PM Neville Chamberlain as a leader. On this, BHO's final day in office, I find this quote of Amery's fitting for the situation:

    "Somehow or other we must get into the Government men who can match our enemies in fighting spirit, in daring, in resolution and in thirst for victory. Some 300 years ago, when this House found that its troops were being beaten again and again by the dash and daring of the Cavaliers, by Prince Rupert’s Cavalry, Oliver Cromwell spoke to John Hampden. In one of his speeches he recounted what he said. It was this: I said to him, ‘Your troops are most of them old, decayed serving men and tapsters and such kind of fellows.’…You must get men of a spirit that are likely to go as far as they will go, or you will be beaten still. It may not be easy to find these men. They can be found only by trial and by ruthlessly discarding all who fail and have their failings discovered. We are fighting to-day for our life, for our liberty, for our all; we cannot go on being led as we are. I have quoted certain words of Oliver Cromwell. I will quote certain other words. I do it with great reluctance, because I am speaking of those who are old friends and associates of mine, but they are words which, I think, are applicable to the present situation. This is what Cromwell said to the Long Parliament when he thought it was no longer fit to conduct the affairs of the nation: You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go.

    Barack Hussein Obama, YOU have sat too long... Depart I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, GO.

    full Amery speech here (excellent read):
    Leo Amery – 1940 Speech in the House of Commons – UKPOL
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