"You didn't get there on your own"

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    Ford did a hell of a lot more than that.

    Yes, Ford raised wages, the $5 is a myth, he wasn't a Communist who set a fixed wage for all, but rather an entry wage. The Ford worker would START at $5 a day.

    What is ironic is that Ford did this largely to block unionization of the Ford plants.

    But what Ford mostly did was drive the cost out of automobile production. Ford demanded that the Model T sell for $500; the Chevrolet Brothers were selling their car for $4,000.

    Ford missed his goal and the Model T originally sold for $825 - but still a fraction of what the competition charged. By 1916 the price had dropped to $360.

    What Ford did was to make the automobile affordable. He did something you of the left cannot fathom, he offered consumers VALUE. He traded not wants, or needs, but value.

    Far less, in fact very little was said about wages. The controversy was about the low sales price, which R.E. Olds (of Oldsmobile) stated was "unfair competition, undercutting the price to corner the market."
     
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    Better yet. taking that out of context and spinning it as the truth is awefull, everyone who has half a brain knows exactly what he meant by it. its simple, the infasrtucture of the united states, roads, schools, dams, the military, local and federal police agencies and first responders.......that is what makes it possible for our country to thrive. Now pick a product, any product and I will show you a little magic trick......
     
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    Granny doesn't need a hip replacement; the death panel ruled that she is a burden on the system and will be put to rest.
     
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    You truly dont understand the affordable care act do you?
     
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    Unfortunately we understand it all too well. obama understands how it works. That's why he said that a woman who needs a pacemaker should just get a pill instead, and given the pill until she died because she needed a pacemaker.
     
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    Obama's fascist care is over 2,700 pages in length. It is a law with no defined parameters. As governments who seek to avoid accountability are wont to do, fascist care is written in a way that it means whatever the government wants it to mean at any given moment.
     
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    Actually, that's not smart. It's stupid. Any company that thinks it's going to make a profit by selling its products to its employees is certifiably insane. they can never be more than a small fraction of the customer base.

    Do you think Rolls Royce would make a profit if it raised wages to the point where its employees could afford to buy one? How about Lear Jet?

    The theory you enunciated above is a liberal myth. It simply isn't true.
     
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    Well to start you say fascist, and then I have seen your posts where you call it communist, which one is it, CAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT! more importantly, you are then calling romney a fascist cause Romney care is Obama care, just on a state level, and you are calling Regan a fascist cause both Romney&Obama care are modeled after what the Regan admin. proposed doing which was the mandate. so I doubt you have read the whole thing, and from what you have been saying you dont understand pretty much anything about it.
     
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    It's not Ford's reasoning. It's a myth liberals invented as an argument to support their "living wage" idiocy.

    If Ford has 10,000 employees and makes a million cars in a year, how is it going to make a profit by doubling the wages of its employees? If every employee buys one, Ford is only going to increase sales by 1%. Meanwhile, Fords costs of production will have increased by 50% or 100%.

    Vast wage increases only make sense if production increases by an equal amount. It has nothing to do with the ability of workers to buy the product.
     
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