You Cannot Legislate Love Or Charity

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    “You can’t legislate morality!” is a common battle cry today. It’s thought to be a quintessentially American idea, even though the Founding Fathers never expressed such a sentiment.
    The Founding Fathers legislated morality in a very limited form of government. Basically, morality expressed in prohibitions as Mr Duke points out:

    . . . prohibiting murder — we have legislated morality.

    May 29, 2016
    Why Morality is the Only Thing We Should Legislate
    By Selwyn Duke

    Articles: Why Morality is the Only Thing We Should Legislate

    Unfortunately, the morality of our Founding Fathers has become so perverted it is difficult to separate common sense morality from group morality. I do know one thing for certain. America’s Founders sure as hell expressed “Thou shall not legislate charity.”

    I have to disagree with Mr. Duke’s broad analysis. If you want morality legislated go live in a theocracy. The instant you legislate morality as such you end up with spiritual leaders like the current piece of garbage living in the White House, or you end up with an organized religion priest like that asshole Pope Francis.

    NOTE: Everybody is free to follow religious leaders of every size, shape, and color. Just do not force me to go along. More importantly, do not use the power of government to force me to support your choice —— or your morality. I’ll make my own mistakes not yours.

    Bottom line: You cannot legislate charity is, or should be, the battle cry.

    Morality, love, and charity

    Socialism/Communism is all about legislating love. “Thou shall” rather than “Thou shall not.” Once the freaks got their hands on the public purse they legislated love and morality under the pretext of legislated charity. Example: The Affordable Care Act is a sick form of all three.

    Follow the money

    Do-gooder Socialist priests had to hide their lust for power and money because without tax dollars their sick religion would vanish overnight. Unlike Supreme Deity religions, Socialism cannot survive without tax dollars. Nobody in their right mind would voluntarily contribute to Socialism; hence, the need to legislate charity.


    As I’ve said many times, every one of the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights has to be paid for with tax dollars; hence, Americans must surrender their Right in order to pay for the UN’s charity ripoffs. The Administration’s latest underhanded scheme to hand taxing authority to the United Nations is rooted in a philosophical argument that goes back to at least the 19th century. Then-state senator, the Chicago sewer rat, adopted the Negative-Positive Rights argument to suit his parasitic political goal:​


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    The ugliest document ever written, the UN’s 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is the most devious compendium of institutional morality ever devised. That is why Taqiyya is selling positive Rights for the United Nations as opposed to “negative” Rights in our Bill of Rights. His positive Rights is nothing more than justifying tax dollars being collected by government Good Samaritans, while not one negative Right in the Bill of Rights forces another to pay —— as the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights is aiming for.

    Voluntary charity is the stuff Good Samaritans are made of. Coerced charity is the stuff dictators are made of. In that sense, I never saw a Socialist/Communist who was not afflicted with a twisted Messianic complex if there is such a thing.

    Where The Hell Is My Hub?

    Charity hustlers were always confident that they were in hog heaven at the feed tub where accountability, the bane of charity hustlers, is non-existent. In practice, that meant that soliciting funds from individuals and private institutions became a thing of the past. Governments would administer all charity with tax dollars with no Right of refusal granted to taxpayers.

    A political system of involuntary charity allows wealthy sharpshooters to protect their fortunes worldwide as well as take credit for being caring human beings. Naturally, such a system requires taxpayers to pick up the tab for good works as defined by wealthy charity hustlers. This is the secret the public is not supposed to know: Take tax deductions away from the wise guys and they would not donate a penny out of their own pockets. Corporate wise guys cash in twice. They get the deduction then double dip by raising the retail prices on their products.

    NOTE: Here is my suggestion for legislation. Make it a capital crime to eliminate competition in the market place by any means.

    Finally, tax dollar charity is the economy. Indeed, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, along with many Republicans, would have American taxpayers believe that tax dollar charity is too big to fail.
     
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    Such a long OP, and so many things wrong with it, so I'll just pick out a couple. Our government helping those that need help is not charity. It is a pragmatic choice to improve our society for all by helping the less fortunate until they are more able to become contributing members. This is not something that can be done once and then done, but more of a continuing maintenance. It makes us all stronger, not just the ones receiving the help.
    Moral behavior is not adherence to a particular religion's beliefs, and doesn't require the existence of any dogma. It is the basic understanding that fair treatment for all gives better outcomes for all. Most of our laws are in place to require moral behavior.
     
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    To BULLDOG: No parasite ever contributed anything to any society.
    To BULLDOG: Once the charity flows their way they fight to keep it coming. You admit it by calling it “. . . continuing maintenance.”
    To BULLDOG: Your touchy-feely bullshit always ignores history. America became the greatest country in the world improving the standard of living for the most people here, and around the world, before the XVI Amendment. The country began going downhill in 1913. Your piece of scum in the White House speeded up the decay faster than all of the Democrat presidents since 1913 including FDR, LBJ, and the corrupt, degenerate, Clintons. By every measure that made a free people free coerced charity is the prime mover that is destroying this country.

    Naturally, you and your kind despise individual liberties. Your diseased morality insists that everybody work for strangers, yet not a one of your kind ever left the country for a Communist country where the government would take care them. Instead of making the country stronger with the freedom to work for themselves and their loved ones, they will tear down this country by forcing everyone to contribute to their morality. You are all so sick you actually believe that an ever-growing parasite class is good for everybody.

    Your sickness is so destructive you elect the worst of humankind so they can bring in parasites from every Third World shit-hole so can they live on everybody’s labor as soon as they arrive. Let me remind you of what they are. Perhaps you can tell me what contribution she ever made:



    Note that there are millions just like her already here with millions more in the pipeline.
     
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    You really are a selfish grumpy old fart, aren't you? I won't condemn you for that for now. I'm sure you have enough problems trying to justify your childish, hateful existence.
     
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    Democrats legislate charity all the time. But they call it other things because some folks feel diminished by accepting charity they just can't resist.
     
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    Government "help" illustrated for dummies...

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    If the people who called themselves Christian in America followed the morals of their founder, government would not have to aid the poor. Because humane social conditions demand that some people are helped, and because it is not done otherwise, it must be done collectively; i.e., through government agencies, lamentably.
     
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    To there4eyeM: Do you mean helped simply because parasites came here?

    I received this among this morning e-mails. United Nations refugees heading straight for the public trough are not included in the stats:


    THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE OBAMA LET IT HAPPEN !!!

    Subject: LARGEST INSANE ASYLUM IN THE WORLD

    LARGEST INSANE ASYLUM IN THE WORLD
    California - LARGEST INSANE ASYLUM IN THE WORLD

    Interesting that the LA Times did this. Lou Dobbs reported this on CNN and it cost him his job. The only network we would see this on would be FOX. All the others are staying away from it. Whether you are a Democrat or Republican, this should be of great interest to you!

    Just One State - be sure and read the last part... try for 3 times.

    This is only one State... If this doesn't open your eyes, nothing will!

    From the L.A. Times.

    1. 40% of all workers in LA County (10.2 million people) are working for cash; and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

    (Donald Trump was right)

    2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

    3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

    4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

    5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals;
    >>they are here illegally.

    6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
    7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

    8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

    9. 21 radio stations in LA are Spanish- speaking.

    10. In LA County, 5.1 million people speak English; 3.9 million, speak Spanish. (There are 10.2 million people, in LA County.)

    (All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times)

    Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth, (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York), results from immigration. Also, 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

    We are fools for letting this continue.

    HOW CAN YOU HELP?

    Send copies of this letter, to at least two other people. 100, would be even better.

    This is only one State...If this doesn't open your eyes nothing will, and you wonder why Nancy Pelosi wants them to become voters!

    IF YOU DON'T AGREE, JUST DELETE -- IF YOU DO PASS IT ON! WHERE DO WE GET
    THESE MORONS?​

    The people in Typhoid Nancy’s San Francisco district are the only one who can get rid if her. (Flanders)

    Windfall Tax on Retirement Income... Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to the American people "you're so darn stupid that we're going to keep doing this until we drain every cent from you". Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income. In other words, tax what you have made by investing toward your retirement. This woman is a nut case! You aren't going to believe this.

    Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds)!

    Alas, it is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!

    This woman is frightening. She quotes... 'We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income, (didn't Marx say something like this?) in our country; and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest. (I'm not rich, are you?)

    When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:

    We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as Americans.

    (Read that quote again and again and let it sink in.) 'Lower your retirement; give it to others who have not worked, as you have' for your money. Send this on to your friends. I just did! This lady is out of her mind!

    NOTE: The number of illegal aliens is closer to 30 million, not the 11 or 12 million media has been putting out since 2008.
     
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    Helped because humane social conditions demand it. There is much middle ground between 'giving away the ranch' and 'march or die'.
     
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    Even if you never give a penny to United Way you are paying for abortions and Planned Parenthood’s gruesome baby-body-parts business. Every dollar United Way gets is a tax deduction for somebody. Those tax deductions are passed on to everybody else.

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    “Financial support for Planned Parenthood from nonprofits like United Way helps fund an organization that engages in repulsive practices and is an advocate for policies that allow the destruction of innocent lives,” Kuykendall said.

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    “In addition to providing abortion services, Planned Parenthood also has an extremely effective, extremely liberal political arm, and the money funneled by United Way essentially helps support all of Planned Parenthood’s operations,” Kuykendall told The Daily Signal in an email.​

    United Way Affiliates Give $3 Million a Year to Planned Parenthood
    Leah Jessen
    June 24, 2016

    United Way Affiliates Donate Millions to Planned Parenthood
     

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