High horse! Pretension! There's nothing pretentious about about knowing what I'm talking about when it comes what is and is not rape and where lies the line between it and consensual sex. There's no "high horse" from which to assert that abuse and sexual harassment of women is wrong and not to be tolerated. Your ID states that you're pure trash. I'm inclined by your remarks in this thread to take your word for it. I didn't call you that. You chose that moniker for yourself; it's your own attestation. Read the post. I was quite clear. Read it and you won't need to ask "what." Why you or anyone else "turned to the right" is not relevant to the thread topic. It's not because you and those other people and you're reasons aren't the topic of the thread.