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This link doesn't work, Lewdhog.Sorry if I don't count your memory as a credible source. Even though (((Hollywood))) and the NAACP shakedown racket treat the myth as the holiest of holies, it is still a myth. The US government never infected anyone, including black airman, with syphilis. I know it hurts to have to let loose a cherished hatred that has provided you with so much pleasure over the years whipping white America with it, but you've been (((hoodwinked))). Someday you'll thank me.Whatsamatter, pussy? Can't back up your "real world"? hahaha.Yeah... I'm sorry, if it doesn't come from Nazi conspiracy site it won't be a good source to you. Get over it. You're chasing a racist dragon high you'll never catch, because your shit has no standing in the real world.
Yeah, I'm a racist. So what? At least I'm not a monster, like you. I care about my own people.
Can't back it up? Like the things I read in my Criminal Justice Statistics book on it?
Ok douchebag the ISBN # of the book is 9780205485703 It's titled Criminal Justice and Criminology Research Methods. Pages 114-115.
And you care about all women the same as your mother?"Admit" it? Of course I care about my people. Who wouldn't admit that except some monster who doesn't care about his own people? Is that you, Lewdhog? Are you a monster?Whatsamatter, pussy? Can't back up your "real world"? hahaha.Yeah... I'm sorry, if it doesn't come from Nazi conspiracy site it won't be a good source to you. Get over it. You're chasing a racist dragon high you'll never catch, because your shit has no standing in the real world.
Yeah, I'm a racist. So what? At least I'm not a monster, like you. I care about my own people.
Haha I didn't even realize you ADMITTED you are a racist. Congrats man... now go cut off your ball sack so you don't reproduce.
I care about ALL people. If that makes me a monster... then I'll be the one that hangs out in your closet... the one full of Nazi uniforms and lacy lingerie.
Nice try, but very muddled thinking. You must be a college graduate. It should be apparent--even to college graduates--that one could simultaneously oppose slavery, but support Jim Crow laws. Therefore, among many other reasons, that Lincoln found it politically necessary to reassure a wary electorate that, while he opposed slavery, he supported inequality is not an argument the Civil War wasn't a war over slavery.That's not racism. Racism is that thing that taught White Americans that it was okay for some States to own Slaves. The Slaves were savages from the jungle who were by nature inferior to the White Man, and who deserved no better that to be treated as farm animals and/or property. A lot of prejudice still lives on from that time in history but very few still hold to that racist premise.
You left out the bit that people who looked like the Slaves in their countries of origin sold them to White Men.
Here's a clue, bub. Slavery has existed For Millennia. Slavery or Serfdom has been the most common condition of existence for the majority of people who have ever lived. It is only since the advancements developed during the Industrial Revolution were combined with the Individualist Values of Western Civilization that slavery has been abandoned in some of the world. It is still practiced in quite a few places outside of Western Europe, the U.S. and Canada. Perhaps your energy would be better used opposing actual slavery that exists today instead of reliving something that the U.S. found a war in which 700,000 died in order to eliminate.
The war was not fought to eliminate slavery. Lincoln, like most American citizens at the time, was a white supremacist.
“And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races.”
In fact, those who argue that the Civil War was not over slavery are those who, for some reason, want to strip white people and America of every redeeming quality. They are enemies who want to make us hated even as we become a minority.
If the United States had not inherited the institution of slavery at its birth, there would have been no Civil War. In the presidential campaign of 1860, slavery was THE issue. The southern states vowed to secede if Lincoln were elected because he had been transformed into the anti-slavery banner carrier through the Lincoln-Douglas Debates of 1858.
Your contention that that bloodiest of wars was fought over business doesn't make sense. How would that even work? We're going to convince hundreds of thousands of men to march off to war to make Acme Saddle Co lower its prices?
A large part of Jim Crow was the way whites in those days protected themselves from the knockout game. There were injustices, yes, and we made an enormous effort to rectify them, too, but neither the Civil War nor the Civil Rights Act has stopped blacks from complaining. Trillions of dollars spent by whites on blacks, and they are still demanding more and burning down the cities we built and marching and looting and calling for the deaths of cops.
If the United States had not inherited the institution of slavery at its birth, there would have been no Civil War. In the presidential campaign of 1860, slavery was THE issue. The southern states vowed to secede if Lincoln were elected because he had been transformed into the anti-slavery banner carrier through the Lincoln-Douglas Debates of 1858.
Your contention that that bloodiest of wars was fought over business doesn't make sense. How would that even work? We're going to convince hundreds of thousands of men to march off to war to make Acme Saddle Co lower its prices?
A large part of Jim Crow was the way whites in those days protected themselves from the knockout game. There were injustices, yes, and we made an enormous effort to rectify them, too, but neither the Civil War nor the Civil Rights Act has stopped blacks from complaining. Trillions of dollars spent by whites on blacks, and they are still demanding more and burning down the cities we built and marching and looting and calling for the deaths of cops.
Surely you must know that over time that there are little known facts revealed about history that are not commonly known at the actual time of an event, which is true of any era.
If you choose to stay stuck on the romanticized version of why the Civil War was actually fought in the name of glorifying a dead president as a humanitarian savior that waged a war for anything other than preserving the Union, then you are in a state of delusional denial.
Of course there was no war fought to "save a saddle company" and using such an example is a bit melodramatic.
Your own opening statement that the potential secession of the Confederacy is the central reason for the war.
Everyone who took 8th grade history knows that, and in Lincolns own words, "If I could save the Union and not free single slave, I would do so" describes what his personal stance on "Liberty and justice for all" actually was.
Now as far as Jim Crow goes, are you serious? "A way to protect whites from the knockout game"?!
Jack Johnson "knocked out" white men in a boxing ring in the early 1900's in a professional boxing ring and became the first Black Heavyweight Champion......by the rules in 1908, and THAT touched off race riots all over America resulting in numerous Black citizens being lynched....no sane black person in America at that time was going to radomly punch any white person.
The docile slave mentality was still too deeply ingrained in the behaviors of blacks in general for that to happen.
Lastly, why should blacks have ceased ""complaining" after the Civil War was fought?
The war being fought did not result in the black population as a whole being treated as citizens with all of the rights associated with being a citizen of a so called "free country". They were just unshackled.
Kind of like a dog being taken off of a leash in his own backyard, but in public is put back on a leash.
Those who marched had a right to do so, those who have looted, that is wrong I agree. There are other more effective ways of protesting against crooked police agencies
So?You are wrong the first homo sapien.considered human Had black skin.Because whites were the first to proclaim an innate human equality, the fact that it wasn't extended to women, indentured servants, and non- whites immediately (and still isn't to children) makes us not only guilty of this things called racism, but the only one capable of ever being guilty? Crazy.Then what allowed the Chinese to view the people who built the Great Wall as sub-human? Or the Africans who own slaves today to view their slaves as sub-human?No I wasn't saying that at all. I was talking about how systemic racism allowed American citizens to view the slaves as sub-human.
Did the Chinese have a founding document that proclaimed all men were created equal?
This is what happened in the USA, not Rome, China or anywhere else for that matter.
Racism was systemic.
And by extension, of course, because blacks and yellows did not originate the concept of an innate human right of equality, they are therefore incapable of inequality.
Frankly, your argument is contorted into such absurdity you aren't just a college graduate. You must have an advanced degree.
Les européens étaient noirs il y a 8 000 ans - Hominidés
White people stole this land fair and square from the people who had stolen it fair and square from the people who were here before them. In fact, it was nothing special, except we were better at it than anybody else. Listen up, Petunia. Everyone in the world lives on land that has been stolen many times. We used to use words like "conquer" when we discussed our history. Now, since Hollywood taught us to hate ourselves, people like you use words like "a genocidal form of racism" as if our successes--our glorious achievements--are somehow different simply because we won. How pathetic. I despise your weakness, your self-hatred masquerading as virtue."Racism" didn't even start with the Civil War. No one ever even heard of "racism" in America until after WWII. Before that, if someone said, hey, you preferred that guy to that guy, Americans, like the rest of the world, would say, well, of course, that's my brother. We're more closely related. Of COURSE!That's not racism. Racism is that thing that taught White Americans that it was okay for some States to own Slaves. The Slaves were savages from the jungle who were by nature inferior to the White Man, and who deserved no better that to be treated as farm animals and/or property. A lot of prejudice still lives on from that time in history but very few still hold to that racist premise.
You left out the bit that people who looked like the Slaves in their countries of origin sold them to White Men.
Here's a clue, bub. Slavery has existed For Millennia. Slavery or Serfdom has been the most common condition of existence for the majority of people who have ever lived. It is only since the advancements developed during the Industrial Revolution were combined with the Individualist Values of Western Civilization that slavery has been abandoned in some of the world. It is still practiced in quite a few places outside of Western Europe, the U.S. and Canada. Perhaps your energy would be better used opposing actual slavery that exists today instead of reliving something that the U.S. fought a war in which 700,000 died in order to eliminate.
Racism in America didn't die with the Civil war and the freeing of the slaves.
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
When we Europeans came over we practiced a genocidal form a racism.
The thing that fills me with despair, frequently, is the sheer impossibility of rapprochement between the races in this country. You actually seem like a reasonable person (unlike many of the people on this site who seem only here to sling venom), but our two views are so radically opposed and hostile to each other that it seems silly to even try to coexist under one political system. It can never work. We are too different and we seem to be doing everything in our power to make it worse.
And then, of course, Hollywood and the rest of the media are dominated by Jews--a people with a long history of war-mongering--and it honestly seems as if the media is doing its level best to inflame racial tensions between blacks and whites in the United States. Year after year we get graphic movies of vile white people oppressing virtuous, noble black people. Slavery and the Holocaust are the two dominant historical themes in Hollywood. The media is just as bad. I myself found proof the Ferguson affair was purposely and dishonestly engineered by the Jewish-owned New York Times, and the execrable and hugely divisive blacklivesmatter is funded by the Jew, George Soros.
Under those conditions, how can we hope to succeed? In 2008, when Obama was elected, everyone was gushing about how the US was entering a "post-racial" golden age. I knew that race relations would deteriorate and they will continue to.
I'm no fan of Lincoln, but the Civil War really was fought over slavery and Jim Crow was, in large part, the way my ancestors protected themselves from the criminality of your ancestors. You see the Civil War being waged over business interests and Jim Crow as purely an effort by evil whites to persecute blacks. I don't see any way those two views can be reconciled.
The thing that fills me with despair, frequently, is the sheer impossibility of rapprochement between the races in this country. You actually seem like a reasonable person (unlike many of the people on this site who seem only here to sling venom), but our two views are so radically opposed and hostile to each other that it seems silly to even try to coexist under one political system. It can never work. We are too different and we seem to be doing everything in our power to make it worse.
And then, of course, Hollywood and the rest of the media are dominated by Jews--a people with a long history of war-mongering--and it honestly seems as if the media is doing its level best to inflame racial tensions between blacks and whites in the United States. Year after year we get graphic movies of vile white people oppressing virtuous, noble black people. Slavery and the Holocaust are the two dominant historical themes in Hollywood. The media is just as bad. I myself found proof the Ferguson affair was purposely and dishonestly engineered by the Jewish-owned New York Times, and the execrable and hugely divisive blacklivesmatter is funded by the Jew, George Soros.
Under those conditions, how can we hope to succeed? In 2008, when Obama was elected, everyone was gushing about how the US was entering a "post-racial" golden age. I knew that race relations would deteriorate and they will continue to.
I'm no fan of Lincoln, but the Civil War really was fought over slavery and Jim Crow was, in large part, the way my ancestors protected themselves from the criminality of your ancestors. You see the Civil War being waged over business interests and Jim Crow as purely an effort by evil whites to persecute blacks. I don't see any way those two views can be reconciled.
Have you actually researched or known anyone who lived under Jim Crow laws?
I do.
This link does not properly describe the severity of this caste system. I will address the rest of you post after I finish checking my final guest list for tommorows Holiday
Jim Crow laws - Wikipedia
@ the headcase trying to play at 'reasonable' while slipping in paranoid antisemitism as if it were a given . No, Adolph, no.
