You Are A Bigot If You Think The NYC Mosque is Inappropriate.

[Sky Dancer]

Cordoba House iss a community center, not a mosque. It's like the YMCA or Jewish Community Center.

The point is they want to use it as propaganda to show off their glorious victory for Allah and his martyrs. And, use it as a center for muslims to come and visit the site of the glorious victory.

This is not bullshit. This is existential. If you don't understand why, if you truly think this is just like the JCC or the Y then you don't understand what's going on. You need to read more deeply on this issue.

I read deeply on this issue and I come to a different conclusion from you. You act as if the 9/11 terrorists were connected to the Cordoba Initiative. They aren't.

This is a peaceful act to bring moderate Muslim Americans into the mainstream America with everyone else.

We were united on 9/11. White, black, brown, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, lefiist, rightist, all as one.

That's the legact of 9/11, not bigotry, paranoia and intolerance.

 

[Tech_Esq]

You're right. It's not a very wise decision on their behalf. It just can't be legally stopped because of insensitivity.

side bar question: how much do you suppose it will cost to insure this property? I wouldn't want to underwrite their policy! And what about the premiums for the adjoining properties?

That said, it is within the control of the politicians if they want it to be. So, if it becomes unpopular enough and enough hell is raised, I bet it doesn't get built.

What grounds do the politicians have to prevent it?

Remember, it's the unpopular positions that need the protection of the law. If it's just a popularity contest, there would be no need to codify rights in the constitution.

This is not the time for cold, dispassionate objectivity. This is existential. Just ask the Europeans. They were dispassionate and now they are struggling with the institution of Sharia law. This is a seed that, once planted, germinates into a poisonous vine that will strangle this country from within.

Remember, the First Amendment like the rest of the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

 

[Ravi]

Cordoba House iss a community center, not a mosque. It's like the YMCA or Jewish Community Center.

The point is they want to use it as propaganda to show off their glorious victory for Allah and his martyrs. And, use it as a center for muslims to come and visit the site of the glorious victory.

This is not bullshit. This is existential. If you don't understand why, if you truly think this is just like the JCC or the Y then you don't understand what's going on. You need to read more deeply on this issue.

Or maybe she just needs to be more paranoid.

 

[Shogun]

Cordoba House iss a community center, not a mosque. It's like the YMCA or Jewish Community Center.

The point is they want to use it as propaganda to show off their glorious victory for Allah and his martyrs. And, use it as a center for muslims to come and visit the site of the glorious victory.

This is not bullshit. This is existential. If you don't understand why, if you truly think this is just like the JCC or the Y then you don't understand what's going on. You need to read more deeply on this issue.

YEA! and Tech Esp knows ALL THE BLOGS you should read! YEA!

 

[Shogun]

That said, it is within the control of the politicians if they want it to be. So, if it becomes unpopular enough and enough hell is raised, I bet it doesn't get built.

What grounds do the politicians have to prevent it?

Remember, it's the unpopular positions that need the protection of the law. If it's just a popularity contest, there would be no need to codify rights in the constitution.

This is not the time for cold, dispassionate objectivity. This is existential. Just ask the Europeans. They were dispassionate and now they are struggling with the institution of Sharia law. This is a seed that, once planted, germinates into a poisonous vine that will strangle this country from within.

Remember, the First Amendment like the rest of the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

yea yea yea.. we heard that shit the last time all those Irish were busy EATZING OURZ POTATOEZZ!


We'll remember that it's not a "suicide pact" the next time your kind start screaming about weapons of mass destruction, m'kay?

 

[WillowTree]

What exactly are you talking about? Ramadan decorations in Walmart? Shopkeepers wishing everyone a Happy Ramadan?

no, I'm talking about you fucking hypocrites demanding the same thing of muslims that you demand of Christians.

WHO THE FUCK is out demanding that muslims stop screaming Happy Ramadan at you in the vestible of a wal mart? No one. WHY? Because your silly fucking attempt to find equivalence fails. Here, let me take a look around... hmmm.. Nope.. No inundation of baby mohammed imagery and forced observation of their holiday, like your annual martyr fest, anywhere in sight.

Nope it doesn't you big fat assed hypocrite, you want to scream about Christians but don't expect equal treatment of others. ASSWIPE

 

[blu]

How is a house of religious worship a bad thing anywhere?

Christmas was never a bad thing either but you libturds tried to destroy Christmas.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Cordoba House iss a community center, not a mosque. It's like the YMCA or Jewish Community Center.

The point is they want to use it as propaganda to show off their glorious victory for Allah and his martyrs. And, use it as a center for muslims to come and visit the site of the glorious victory.

This is not bullshit. This is existential. If you don't understand why, if you truly think this is just like the JCC or the Y then you don't understand what's going on. You need to read more deeply on this issue.

Or maybe she just needs to be more paranoid.

Or maybe you don't understand the issue.

 

[Nosmo King]

That said, it is within the control of the politicians if they want it to be. So, if it becomes unpopular enough and enough hell is raised, I bet it doesn't get built.

What grounds do the politicians have to prevent it?

Remember, it's the unpopular positions that need the protection of the law. If it's just a popularity contest, there would be no need to codify rights in the constitution.

This is not the time for cold, dispassionate objectivity. This is existential. Just ask the Europeans. They were dispassionate and now they are struggling with the institution of Sharia law. This is a seed that, once planted, germinates into a poisonous vine that will strangle this country from within.

Remember, the First Amendment like the rest of the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Remember, the constitution is the law of the land and the backbone of what makes us free. It has served us well for over 200 years. This is always the time for dispassionate objectivity. If we abandon our laws, submit to knee-jerk reactions, we will surely fail.

Funny how the Right hates to think the constitution is not a living document, but something to be held inviolate right up until the constitution points to their inherent inability to grant freedom to all Americans. Toss out the constitution when it's used to protect the unpopular. This year we've heard Conservatives wanting to re-write the 14th amendment, abolish the 17th amendment and ignore the first amendment. Try to ban plastic hand guns or cop killer bullets and the Conservatives scream about the sacred nature of the constitution!

 

[Shogun]

no, I'm talking about you fucking hypocrites demanding the same thing of muslims that you demand of Christians.

WHO THE FUCK is out demanding that muslims stop screaming Happy Ramadan at you in the vestible of a wal mart? No one. WHY? Because your silly fucking attempt to find equivalence fails. Here, let me take a look around... hmmm.. Nope.. No inundation of baby mohammed imagery and forced observation of their holiday, like your annual martyr fest, anywhere in sight.

Nope it doesn't you big fat assed hypocrite, you want to scream about Christians but don't expect equal treatment of others. ASSWIPE

PROFOUND REBUTTAL!




Is it November yet, you fucking tickle me elmo christian?

 

[Shogun]

The point is they want to use it as propaganda to show off their glorious victory for Allah and his martyrs. And, use it as a center for muslims to come and visit the site of the glorious victory.

This is not bullshit. This is existential. If you don't understand why, if you truly think this is just like the JCC or the Y then you don't understand what's going on. You need to read more deeply on this issue.

Or maybe she just needs to be more paranoid.

Or maybe you don't understand the issue.

Maybe she just doesn't read the EXPERT COMMENTARY at the same blogs as you do.

 

[Tech_Esq]

A mosque built to commemorate a victory? That must be where the Spanish conquistadors learned how to build missions whenever the indigenous people were conquered.

The Muslims taught it to the Spanish. The Spanish were given and OBJECT lesson in how to build religious edifices on the sites of victories by the Muslims in the 700s. Google the original Cordoba mosque. The seat of the Caliphate and the second largest mosque in all of Islam.

Seriously, you need to understand what exactly is going on. This is not just some religious institution that wants to build a harmless place of worship or community center. That is not how the Muslim religion functions. They don't recognize a division between church and state. That would be heretical thinking.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Or maybe she just needs to be more paranoid.

Or maybe you don't understand the issue.

Maybe she just doesn't read the EXPERT COMMENTARY at the same blogs as you do.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Any idea?

I thought not. Nutter

 

[Ravi]

Or maybe you don't understand the issue.

Maybe she just doesn't read the EXPERT COMMENTARY at the same blogs as you do.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Any idea?

I thought not. Nutter

Then where are you getting the ridiculous information you post?

 

[Tech_Esq]

What grounds do the politicians have to prevent it?

Remember, it's the unpopular positions that need the protection of the law. If it's just a popularity contest, there would be no need to codify rights in the constitution.

This is not the time for cold, dispassionate objectivity. This is existential. Just ask the Europeans. They were dispassionate and now they are struggling with the institution of Sharia law. This is a seed that, once planted, germinates into a poisonous vine that will strangle this country from within.

Remember, the First Amendment like the rest of the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Remember, the constitution is the law of the land and the backbone of what makes us free. It has served us well for over 200 years. This is always the time for dispassionate objectivity. If we abandon our laws, submit to knee-jerk reactions, we will surely fail.

Funny how the Right hates to think the constitution is not a living document, but something to be held inviolate right up until the constitution points to their inherent inability to grant freedom to all Americans. Toss out the constitution when it's used to protect the unpopular. This year we've heard Conservatives wanting to re-write the 14th amendment, abolish the 17th amendment and ignore the first amendment. Try to ban plastic hand guns or cop killer bullets and the Conservatives scream about the sacred nature of the constitution!

The Supreme Court disagrees with your analysis. I was, of course, quoting a Supreme Court decision when I said the the "Constitution is not a suicide pact" We are not required by the Constitution to reach a result where the outcome would be that the United States is harmed. That was intended by nobody when the Constitution was written. Your objections to the contrary notwithstanding.

You need to stop being a liberal and start being an American and get on the right side of this issue.

 

[Shogun]

A mosque built to commemorate a victory? That must be where the Spanish conquistadors learned how to build missions whenever the indigenous people were conquered.

The Muslims taught it to the Spanish. The Spanish were given and OBJECT lesson in how to build religious edifices on the sites of victories by the Muslims in the 700s. Google the original Cordoba mosque. The seat of the Caliphate and the second largest mosque in all of Islam.

Seriously, you need to understand what exactly is going on. This is not just some religious institution that wants to build a harmless place of worship or community center. That is not how the Muslim religion functions. They don't recognize a division between church and state. That would be heretical thinking.

oh right... because the SPANISH never conquered people until MUSLIMS came along....




I mean, it's not as if a SPANIARD ever conquered a land by taking advantage of a religious prophesy or anything...



Hernán Cortés de Monroy y Pizarro

FUCK! is that a SPANISH NAME???!?!

 

[Shogun]

This is not the time for cold, dispassionate objectivity. This is existential. Just ask the Europeans. They were dispassionate and now they are struggling with the institution of Sharia law. This is a seed that, once planted, germinates into a poisonous vine that will strangle this country from within.

Remember, the First Amendment like the rest of the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Remember, the constitution is the law of the land and the backbone of what makes us free. It has served us well for over 200 years. This is always the time for dispassionate objectivity. If we abandon our laws, submit to knee-jerk reactions, we will surely fail.

Funny how the Right hates to think the constitution is not a living document, but something to be held inviolate right up until the constitution points to their inherent inability to grant freedom to all Americans. Toss out the constitution when it's used to protect the unpopular. This year we've heard Conservatives wanting to re-write the 14th amendment, abolish the 17th amendment and ignore the first amendment. Try to ban plastic hand guns or cop killer bullets and the Conservatives scream about the sacred nature of the constitution!

The Supreme Court disagrees with your analysis. I was, of course, quoting a Supreme Court decision when I said the the "Constitution is not a suicide pact" We are not required by the Constitution to reach a result where the outcome would be that the United States is harmed. That was intended by nobody when the Constitution was written. Your objections to the contrary notwithstanding.

You need to stop being a liberal and start being an American and get on the right side of this issue.

The onus of proof that building this mosque would result in "harm" is on you, tonto. WE AMERICANS are not subscribing to your nazi "hop on board or else" bullshit.

go read better blogs, you fucking fool.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

The Authorized English Translation of the Quran, Sura - 18 The Cave (Al-Kahf)-translated from the original by Dr. Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D.Quran, Koran, Qur'an, Quranic topics, Index, Browser, several translations, discussions, debates, Authorized Englis

[18:21] We caused them to be discovered, to let everyone know that GOD's promise is true, and to remove all doubt concerning the end of the world. The people then disputed among themselves regarding them. Some said, "Let us build a building around them." Their Lord is the best knower about them. Those who prevailed said, "We will build a place of worship around them."

Rashad Khalifa was killed for rewriting the Quran in his own image.
Quoting his Quran will eventually cause one to quote inaccuratly

 

[del]

A mosque built to commemorate a victory? That must be where the Spanish conquistadors learned how to build missions whenever the indigenous people were conquered.

The Muslims taught it to the Spanish. The Spanish were given and OBJECT lesson in how to build religious edifices on the sites of victories by the Muslims in the 700s. Google the original Cordoba mosque. The seat of the Caliphate and the second largest mosque in all of Islam.

Seriously, you need to understand what exactly is going on. This is not just some religious institution that wants to build a harmless place of worship or community center. That is not how the Muslim religion functions. They don't recognize a division between church and state. That would be heretical thinking.

oh right... because the SPANISH never conquered people until MUSLIMS came along....




I mean, it's not as if a SPANIARD ever conquered a land by taking advantage of a religious prophesy or anything...



Hernán Cortés de Monroy y Pizarro

FUCK! is that a SPANISH NAME???!?!

yes it is. of course, he came 700+ years later, but why let details get in the way of a good rant? i know i don't.

 

[Shogun]

Or maybe you don't understand the issue.

Maybe she just doesn't read the EXPERT COMMENTARY at the same blogs as you do.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Any idea?

I thought not. Nutter

...says the guy who can't prove that the building of a mosque would result in "harm" to America. You desperate little pussies need to read some history before expecting the rest of us to goose step into compliance of your nazi-like knee jerk reaction, fool.