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Annie

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I found this of interest, since so many hark the barriers burned. Any victory will do ya:

iowahawk: Election Analysis: America Can Take Pride In This Historic, Inspirational Disaster

Election Analysis: America Can Take Pride In This Historic, Inspirational Disaster

Although I have not always been the most outspoken advocate of President-Elect Barack Obama, today I would like to congratulate him and add my voice to the millions of fellow citizens who are celebrating his historic and frightening election victory. I don't care whether you are a conservative or a liberal -- when you saw this inspiring young African-American rise to our nation's highest office I hope you felt the same sense of patriotic pride that I experienced, no matter how hard you were hyperventilating with deep existential dread.

Yes, I know there are probably other African-Americans much better qualified and prepared for the presidency. Much, much better qualified. Hundreds, easily, if not thousands, and without any troubling ties to radical lunatics and Chicago mobsters. Gary Coleman comes to mind. But let's not let that distract us from the fact that Mr. Obama's election represents a profound, positive milestone in our country's struggle to overcome its long legacy of racial divisions and bigotry. It reminds us of how far we've come, and it's something everyone in our nation should celebrate in whatever little time we now have left.

Less than fifty years ago, African-Americans were barred from public universities, restaurants, and even drinking fountains in many parts of the country. On Tuesday we came together and transcended that shameful legacy, electing an African-American to the country's top job -- which, in fact, appears to be his first actual job. Certainly, it doesn't mean that racism has disappeared in America, but it is an undeniable mark of progress that a majority of voters no longer consider skin color nor a dangerously gullible naivete as a barrier to the presidency.

It's also heartening to realize that as president Mr. Obama will soon be working hand-in-hand with a former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard like Senator Robert Byrd to craft the incoherent and destructive programs that will plunge the American economy into a nightmare of full-blown sustained depression. As Vice President-Elect Joe Biden has repeatedly warned, there will be difficult times ahead and the programs will not always be popular, or even sane. But as we look out over the wreckage of bankrupt coal companies, nationalized banks, and hyperinflation, we can always look back with sustained pride on the great National Reconciliation of 2008. Call me an optimist, but I like to think when America's breadlines erupt into riots it will be because of our shared starvation, not the differences in our color.

It's obvious that this newfound pride is not confined to Americans alone. All across the world, Mr. Obama's election has helped mend America's tattered image as a racist, violent cowboy, willing to retaliate with bombs at the slightest provocation. The huge outpouring of international support following the election shows that America can still win new friendships while rebuilding its old ones, and provides Mr. Obama with unprecedented diplomatic leverage over our remaining enemies. When Russian tanks start pouring into eastern Europe and Iranian missiles begin raining down on Jerusalem, their leaders will know they will be facing a man who not only conquered America's racial divide but the hearts of the entire Cannes film community. And those Al Qaeda terrorists plotting a dirty nuke or chemical attack on San Francisco face a stark new reality: while they may no longer need to worry about US Marines, they are looking down the barrel of a strongly worded diplomatic condemnation by a Europe fully united in their deep sympathy for surviving Americans.

So for now, let's put politics aside and celebrate this historic milestone. In his famous speech at the Lincoln Memorial 45 years ago, Dr. King said "I have a dream that one day my children will live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Let us now take pride that Tuesday we Americans proved that neither thing matters anymore.
 
the tinfoil hatters are so adorable. and even more adorable are those who read their stuff with more than passing amusement. :clap2:

On Tuesday we came together and transcended that shameful legacy, electing an African-American to the country's top job -- which, in fact, appears to be his first actual job.

I guess his working as an attorney, college professor of constitutional law, IL state legislator and then U.S. Congressman don't qualify as actual jobs :eusa_whistle:
 
Seriously, Kath. This passive-aggressive approach you seem to be taking against Obama is unbecoming for you. You're doing the same thing you've spent the last 8 years railing the liberals for. I would think someone of your character would be above all that bullshit.
 
Considering I've always had an aversion to tinfoil, I'd say your blinders are causing you to assume credibility of The One, that may well leave you in tatters. But in the meantime, enjoy, ignorance is bliss.
 
Seriously, Kath. This passive-aggressive approach you seem to be taking against Obama is unbecoming for you. You're doing the same thing you've spent the last 8 years railing the liberals for. I would think someone of your character would be above all that bullshit.

:clap2: that's exactly what I was thinking.
 
:clap2: that's exactly what I was thinking.

I said I hope he proves above my fears. I said I will not post pictures of him as a monkey, satan, etc., favorites from the left for 8 long years.

I did not say I would join the bandwagon, and I have no intention of doing so. Of course if somehow I see a turnaround in the country, with the left not calling the right braindead, fascists, etc., if the economy should recover, if peace and harmony break out, I'll be there to rally it on.
 
Considering I've always had an aversion to tinfoil, I'd say your blinders are causing you to assume credibility of The One, that may well leave you in tatters. But in the meantime, enjoy, ignorance is bliss.

The only people who seem to be giving Obama God-like status are disaffected neocons. go figure. I don't know of any libs who think he is a god. You somehow think a government that lines the pockets of their pals (ie Haliburton) are somehow acting in your interest. And you call libs ignornant..
 
The only people who seem to be giving Obama God-like status are disaffected neocons. go figure. I don't know of any libs who think he is a god. You somehow think a government that lines the pockets of their pals (ie Haliburton) are somehow acting in your interest. And you call libs ignornant..

BS, I already answered the god deal, it's from the far right as perjoratives and from the left as truth, but not using 'messiah', rather The One. I've not called libs ignorant, rather uninformed. Maybe you're right on that. They are.
 
in post six where you say ignorance is bliss, who were you referring to? Unlike most conservatives re Bush, libs know what they are getting. hell most libs knew what they were getting when Bush became president. Pity those that voted for him didn't...
 
in post six where you say ignorance is bliss, who were you referring to? Unlike most conservatives re Bush, libs know what they are getting. hell most libs knew what they were getting when Bush became president. Pity those that voted for him didn't...

The liberals for the most part are ignorant of current events, moreso of history. Then there are those foreigners that think because they read the internet, actually understand American politics. Good hunting.
 
BS, I already answered the god deal, it's from the far right as perjoratives and from the left as truth, but not using 'messiah', rather The One. I've not called libs ignorant, rather uninformed. Maybe you're right on that. They are.

it's cute how you presume to decide who is uninformed, simply because you disagree with them. that's pretty arrogant isn't it Kath? I won't presume that you're uninformed, but rather form your opinions on different life experience and criteria than I do my own. That doesn't make my opinion better than yours' just different.

Now do I think there are those on the far left who view Obama as some kind of savior? of course I do. They are swept up in his beautiful speeches and his gracious manner and don't really want or care to delve into his policy rhetoric. Just as there are those on the far right who never looked beyond John McCain's POW status and deemed him the all American hero who could do no wrong.

There are those with blinders on both sides. You, I believe have blinders too , you just seem to have convinced yourself of your unbiaseness or neutrality. You're lying to yourself, which makes your continued partisan passive/aggressive posts seem all the more pathetic because it's like you either can't or won't admit to what you're doing.

I have respect for the partisans who admit to their partisanship. They own their bitchyness and make no excuses or apologies for it. It's much more honest than what you're doing Kath and much more enjoyable. too.
 
Yes, I know there are probably other African-Americans much better qualified and prepared for the presidency. Much, much better qualified. Hundreds, easily, if not thousands.... Gary Coleman comes to mind.

Gary Coleman? The midget? This was just childish.


It's also heartening to realize that as president Mr. Obama will soon be working hand-in-hand with a former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard like Senator Robert Byrd to craft the incoherent and destructive programs that will plunge the American economy into a nightmare of full-blown sustained depression

Bitter, bitter, bitter.

As a two time Bush voter Kathy, you helped enable Bush and his cronys to drive this country off the cliff. I really don't think your judgment, or the judgement of the two time bush voter writing this article have all that much credibility.

When Russian tanks start pouring into eastern Europe and Iranian missiles begin raining down on Jerusalem, their leaders will know they will be facing a man who not only conquered America's racial divide but the hearts of the entire Cannes film community.

Okay, now I can literally almost hear this NeoCon pounding on the keyboard and gritting their teeth in bitterness and anger.

Russian tanks pouring into Berlin? Paranoid much? You really read this crap Kathy? What rightwing blog did you get this from?

What's next? An article from you about how Obama is a Marxist, with a secret muslim agenda to covert all of us infidels to the sword and crescent?
 
The only people who seem to be giving Obama God-like status are disaffected neocons. go figure. I don't know of any libs who think he is a god.

Spot on.

You somehow think a government that lines the pockets of their pals (ie Haliburton) are somehow acting in your interest. And you call libs ignornant..

Who knows?

Perhaps in many cases for people on this board, the Bush regime was acting in their interests?

Every cabal needs henchmen and aparachniks, after all. They are rewarded for their services.

If that is the case, then those people aren't clueless dupes, they're acting in their own personal interests.
 
it's cute how you presume to decide who is uninformed, simply because you disagree with them. that's pretty arrogant isn't it Kath? I won't presume that you're uninformed, but rather form your opinions on different life experience and criteria than I do my own. That doesn't make my opinion better than yours' just different.

Now do I think there are those on the far left who view Obama as some kind of savior? of course I do. They are swept up in his beautiful speeches and his gracious manner and don't really want or care to delve into his policy rhetoric. Just as there are those on the far right who never looked beyond John McCain's POW status and deemed him the all American hero who could do no wrong.

There are those with blinders on both sides. You, I believe have blinders too , you just seem to have convinced yourself of your unbiaseness or neutrality. You're lying to yourself, which makes your continued partisan passive/aggressive posts seem all the more pathetic because it's like you either can't or won't admit to what you're doing.

I have respect for the partisans who admit to their partisanship. They own their bitchyness and make no excuses or apologies for it. It's much more honest than what you're doing Kath and much more enjoyable. too.

I write for myself, always have. If some agree with me, that's fine. Sometimes I'm just inciting dialogue, sometimes not. I've been consistent though, I'm not going to attack Obama from a personal position, such as showing pics of him being a monkey, etc., rather his own actions-such as 'The President Elect of the United States' or his backing off from missile defense, leaving allies blowing in the wind. The attacks from the left not only upon Bush, but upon those that held viewpoints that coincided with his decisions, well those folks have earned animosity.

Many are here. Many will not be happy that some will not just stfu. I won't.
 
I write for myself, always have. If some agree with me, that's fine. Sometimes I'm just inciting dialogue, sometimes not. I've been consistent though, I'm not going to attack Obama from a personal position, such as showing pics of him being a monkey, etc., rather his own actions-such as 'The President Elect of the United States' or his backing off from missile defense, leaving allies blowing in the wind. The attacks from the left not only upon Bush, but upon those that held viewpoints that coincided with his decisions, well those folks have earned animosity.

Many are here. Many will not be happy that some will not just stfu. I won't.

well, I don't know Kath, perhaps you can wait UNTIL such time as Obama actually makes a decision that you disagree with. You know, after he's sworn in as President.

As for earning animosity, may I just :lol: at the idea that those on the right haven't earned their fair share as well!

Do I agree with calling someone an idiot if they agreed with Bush? No I don't. I have friends who agreed with him, I never called them idiots. I told them I didn't understand how they could agree but I never said they were stupid for agreeing.

You've been here since 2003 so I assume you're holding onto some bitterness and anger that might be left over from previous posters who are no longer here, esp since I've yet to see a lib who has been here as long as that. Maybe I'm missing them I don't know.
 
The liberals for the most part are ignorant of current events, moreso of history. Then there are those foreigners that think because they read the internet, actually understand American politics. Good hunting.


Actually, I think you will find it is historically provable that conservatives are ignorant of history as proven by the current idiot in the WH.

Then there are those conservative Americans who feel embarrassed that foriegners can easily understand US politics, when clearly so many US conservatives can't. That must hurt. Good smearing...
 
The liberals for the most part are ignorant of current events, moreso of history. Then there are those foreigners that think because they read the internet, actually understand American politics. Good hunting.

That's true. And of course Americans who think they understand 'foreign' politics for the same reason (for examples, see the Global Discussions area).
 
Then there are those conservative Americans who feel embarrassed that foriegners can easily understand US politics, when clearly so many US conservatives can't. That must hurt. Good smearing...

Foreigners in general don't understand US Politics. They only think they do.
 

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