Yes nazism is absolutely *leftist* according to today's American concept of leftism.

I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21
Then why do all today's neo-nazis vote republican?
 
I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21

The issue is collectivism. There is a wide range of it, socialism, communism, fascism, Progressivism, etc.

Each one tries to distance themselves from the other because of their stench.

And in terms of collectivism, Hitler was cutting edge. He was fearful of a German uprising during the war like there was during WW1 due to poor living standards. So he fixed that through the welfare state. People in Germany had a higher standard of living than those in allied countries.

To do this, he simply rounded up the Jews, took their gold, and sent them off to die. Then he heavily taxed the top 4% of the wealthy in Germany. Lastly, he invaded countries, took them over, and created a currency so German soldiers could legally loot the said countries. Naturally, this hyper inflated their currency, so the Germans told these countries to round up the Jews, take their gold, and send them to Germany to die to help fix their economies.

Shrug, it worked.

Naturally, this was not enough money, so Hitler simply spent his arse off and forbade the German government to pass a budget so as not to alert the populace as to the spending. In essence, it was either world conquest or economic ruin due to all the spending.

Sound familiar anyone?

Hitler was not a socialist only in that he did not take over industry in name. No, he simply told them what to do and let the experts do their jobs. This is much like how I view things in the US today.

The Nazi regime were environmentalists and animal lovers as they passed cutting edge legislation to protect the environment and animals. They were also into gun control for potential enemies.
 
I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21
Then why do all today's neo-nazis vote republican?

How many do you think there are?

I would argue that, anyway. I think neo nazis today vote democrat...or libertarian.

Why do all today's islamic terrorists and MS13 vote Democrat?
 
Who is trivializing it?
Anyone who tries to leverage the term for political advantage in America. On either end.

I realize that our political discourse has devolved to little more than screaming , flailing hyperbole, and there's not much I can do about that.

There are similarities between human beings and ideologies all over the place. That doesn't put them in the same box.

The Nazis believed in strong military! So does the GOP! The Nazis believed in the death penalty! So does the GOP! AAAUUUGGGGHHH. Holy shit, they're Nazis!

Come on.
.

So does the GOP? I'm sorry, who attacked Libya again?

Oh, that's right, Obama said that was not really a war.

Also, who has gone to war in the past? Wilson, FDR, LBJ. Are these Republicans?

LMAO!

The US has troops in over 70 countries around the world, something Hitler could only dream about.
 
I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21
Then why do all today's neo-nazis vote republican?

How many do you think there are?

I would argue that, anyway. I think neo nazis today vote democrat...or libertarian.

Why do all today's islamic terrorists and MS13 vote Democrat?
Who did the KKK endorse for president?
 

"Every collectivist revolution rides in on a Trojan horse of 'emergency'. It was the tactic of Lenin, Hitler, and Mussolini. In the collectivist sweep over a dozen minor countries of Europe, it was the cry of men striving to get on horseback. And 'emergency' became the justification of the subsequent steps. This technique of creating emergency is the greatest achievement that demagoguery attains"

-Herbert Hoover

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."

-Rahm Emanuel

National Socialist Party of Germany
We ask that government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within the confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: ... an end to the power of financial interest. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We demand ... the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state, and municipal governments. In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education.... We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents.... The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor -- by the greatest possible support for all groups concerned with the physical education of youth. [W]e combat the ... materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good.


"Contrary to the Marxists, the Nazis did not advocate public ownership of the means of production. They did demand that the government oversee and run the nation’s economy. The issue of legal ownership, they explained, is secondary; what counts is the issue of control. Private citizens, therefore, may continue to hold titles to property—so long as the state reserves to itself the unqualified right to regulate the use of their property."

-Leonard Peikoff


The Big Lie of the late 20th century was that Nazism was Rightist. It was in fact typical of the Leftism of its day. It was only to the Right of Stalin's Communism. The very word 'Nazi' is a German abbreviation for 'National Socialist' (Nationalsozialist) and the full name of Hitler's political party (translated) was 'The National Socialist German Workers' Party' (In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei).

-Dr. John Joseph Ray


Teachers are directed to instruct their pupils... and to awaken in them a sense of their responsibility toward the community of the nation

-Bernhard Rust


"Fascism, communism and national socialism all share in common the explicit premise that the individual must subordinate himself to society's needs, or as Hitler would phrase it: 'Society's needs come before the individual needs."

-A. E. Samaan


At the end of a century that has seen the evils of communism, Nazism and other modern tyrannies, the impulse to centralize power remains amazingly persistent.

-Joseph Sobran


As socialists, we are opponents of the Jews, because we see, in the Hebrews, the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation’s goods.
-Joseph Paul Goebbels


"National Socialism is a religion. All we lack is a religious genius capable of uprooting outmoded religious practices and putting new ones in their place. We lack traditions and ritual. One day soon National Socialism will be the religion of all Germans. My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel."

Joseph Goebbels


Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?

-Hitler

We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.

-Adolf Hitler


This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!

-Hitler

 
I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21
Then why do all today's neo-nazis vote republican?

How many do you think there are?

I would argue that, anyway. I think neo nazis today vote democrat...or libertarian.

Why do all today's islamic terrorists and MS13 vote Democrat?
Who did the KKK endorse for president?

So you maintain that if an evil ideology endorses a politician, that means the politician embraces that ideology?

Is that what you believe?

How many people are in the KKK btw?
How many jihadists are there, do you think?

"Sen. Barack Obama has been racking up the endorsements lately, but he's gotten some kind words from a group he won't be touting on any news release: Hamas, the militant Islamic organization."

Imagine that!
A terrorist endorsement for Obama?

And some say Chelsea is a Satanist..and she's a Democrat!

Holy Hell!

Chelsea Clinton Wishes The Church Of Satan A Happy New Year
 
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Nazism was directly responsible for the slaughter and suffering of millions upon millions of people.

Over 60 million deaths in total. Additional suffering and damage at a level we could never imagine.

Are we going to trivialize that death and suffering forever? Will we ever get past this?
.

That depends.

Are you trivializing the death of over 50 million unborn children?
Abortion thread is three doors down, to the right.

Genocide anyone?

Seems appropriate right here, thanks for asking.
 
I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21
Then why do all today's neo-nazis vote republican?

How many do you think there are?

I would argue that, anyway. I think neo nazis today vote democrat...or libertarian.

Why do all today's islamic terrorists and MS13 vote Democrat?
Who did the KKK endorse for president?

Trump because he said he wanted to secure the border.

And yes, they promote this for racial reasons, but to suggest that everyone who wants a secure border wants one for the same reason is a buffoon.

And who did Louis Farrakhan support as President? You know, they guy who calls Trump a white devil.
 
I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21
Then why do all today's neo-nazis vote republican?

How many do you think there are?

I would argue that, anyway. I think neo nazis today vote democrat...or libertarian.

Why do all today's islamic terrorists and MS13 vote Democrat?
Who did the KKK endorse for president?

So you maintain that if an evil ideology endorses a politician, that means the politician embraces that ideology?

Is that what you believe?

How many people are in the KKK btw?
How many jihadists are there, do you think?

"Sen. Barack Obama has been racking up the endorsements lately, but he's gotten some kind words from a group he won't be touting on any news release: Hamas, the militant Islamic organization."

Imagine that!
A terrorist endorsement for Obama?

And some say Chelsea is a Satanist..and she's a Democrat!

Holy Hell!

Chelsea Clinton Wishes The Church Of Satan A Happy New Year

Say! That's an awfully nice straw man! Did you make it yourself?
 
"Every collectivist revolution rides in on a Trojan horse of 'emergency'. It was the tactic of Lenin, Hitler, and Mussolini. In the collectivist sweep over a dozen minor countries of Europe, it was the cry of men striving to get on horseback. And 'emergency' became the justification of the subsequent steps. This technique of creating emergency is the greatest achievement that demagoguery attains"

-Herbert Hoover

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."

-Rahm Emanuel

National Socialist Party of Germany
We ask that government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within the confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: ... an end to the power of financial interest. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We demand ... the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state, and municipal governments. In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education.... We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents.... The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor -- by the greatest possible support for all groups concerned with the physical education of youth. [W]e combat the ... materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good.


"Contrary to the Marxists, the Nazis did not advocate public ownership of the means of production. They did demand that the government oversee and run the nation’s economy. The issue of legal ownership, they explained, is secondary; what counts is the issue of control. Private citizens, therefore, may continue to hold titles to property—so long as the state reserves to itself the unqualified right to regulate the use of their property."

-Leonard Peikoff


The Big Lie of the late 20th century was that Nazism was Rightist. It was in fact typical of the Leftism of its day. It was only to the Right of Stalin's Communism. The very word 'Nazi' is a German abbreviation for 'National Socialist' (Nationalsozialist) and the full name of Hitler's political party (translated) was 'The National Socialist German Workers' Party' (In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei).

-Dr. John Joseph Ray


Teachers are directed to instruct their pupils... and to awaken in them a sense of their responsibility toward the community of the nation

-Bernhard Rust


"Fascism, communism and national socialism all share in common the explicit premise that the individual must subordinate himself to society's needs, or as Hitler would phrase it: 'Society's needs come before the individual needs."

-A. E. Samaan


At the end of a century that has seen the evils of communism, Nazism and other modern tyrannies, the impulse to centralize power remains amazingly persistent.

-Joseph Sobran


As socialists, we are opponents of the Jews, because we see, in the Hebrews, the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation’s goods.
-Joseph Paul Goebbels


"National Socialism is a religion. All we lack is a religious genius capable of uprooting outmoded religious practices and putting new ones in their place. We lack traditions and ritual. One day soon National Socialism will be the religion of all Germans. My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel."

Joseph Goebbels


Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?

-Hitler

We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.

-Adolf Hitler


This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!

-Hitler

This would be very telling, if Capitalist Individualist peoples like Brits in the British Empire, and now the U.S.A weren't at the top of the pack of the biggest of mass-murderers.

You think the Holodomor, or Volga Famine are bad by Soviet policies?

There's literally more than a dozen Famines created by British Capitalists in Raj India, which mass murdered plenty.
 
"Every collectivist revolution rides in on a Trojan horse of 'emergency'. It was the tactic of Lenin, Hitler, and Mussolini. In the collectivist sweep over a dozen minor countries of Europe, it was the cry of men striving to get on horseback. And 'emergency' became the justification of the subsequent steps. This technique of creating emergency is the greatest achievement that demagoguery attains"

-Herbert Hoover

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."

-Rahm Emanuel

National Socialist Party of Germany
We ask that government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within the confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: ... an end to the power of financial interest. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We demand ... the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state, and municipal governments. In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education.... We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents.... The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor -- by the greatest possible support for all groups concerned with the physical education of youth. [W]e combat the ... materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good.


"Contrary to the Marxists, the Nazis did not advocate public ownership of the means of production. They did demand that the government oversee and run the nation’s economy. The issue of legal ownership, they explained, is secondary; what counts is the issue of control. Private citizens, therefore, may continue to hold titles to property—so long as the state reserves to itself the unqualified right to regulate the use of their property."

-Leonard Peikoff


The Big Lie of the late 20th century was that Nazism was Rightist. It was in fact typical of the Leftism of its day. It was only to the Right of Stalin's Communism. The very word 'Nazi' is a German abbreviation for 'National Socialist' (Nationalsozialist) and the full name of Hitler's political party (translated) was 'The National Socialist German Workers' Party' (In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei).

-Dr. John Joseph Ray


Teachers are directed to instruct their pupils... and to awaken in them a sense of their responsibility toward the community of the nation

-Bernhard Rust


"Fascism, communism and national socialism all share in common the explicit premise that the individual must subordinate himself to society's needs, or as Hitler would phrase it: 'Society's needs come before the individual needs."

-A. E. Samaan


At the end of a century that has seen the evils of communism, Nazism and other modern tyrannies, the impulse to centralize power remains amazingly persistent.

-Joseph Sobran


As socialists, we are opponents of the Jews, because we see, in the Hebrews, the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation’s goods.
-Joseph Paul Goebbels


"National Socialism is a religion. All we lack is a religious genius capable of uprooting outmoded religious practices and putting new ones in their place. We lack traditions and ritual. One day soon National Socialism will be the religion of all Germans. My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel."

Joseph Goebbels


Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?

-Hitler

We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.

-Adolf Hitler


This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!

-Hitler
Stand by for some idiot to say thou durst not notice the spine chilling parallels.
 
I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21
Then why do all today's neo-nazis vote republican?

How many do you think there are?

I would argue that, anyway. I think neo nazis today vote democrat...or libertarian.

Why do all today's islamic terrorists and MS13 vote Democrat?
Who did the KKK endorse for president?

So you maintain that if an evil ideology endorses a politician, that means the politician embraces that ideology?

Is that what you believe?

How many people are in the KKK btw?
How many jihadists are there, do you think?

"Sen. Barack Obama has been racking up the endorsements lately, but he's gotten some kind words from a group he won't be touting on any news release: Hamas, the militant Islamic organization."

Imagine that!
A terrorist endorsement for Obama?

And some say Chelsea is a Satanist..and she's a Democrat!

Holy Hell!

Chelsea Clinton Wishes The Church Of Satan A Happy New Year

Say! That's an awfully nice straw man! Did you make it yourself?

Say! No, I stole yours and updated it!

So you maintain that the fact that Satanists and Jihadists endorsed the Democratic party does not make them the party the party of jihad and satan?
How does that translate to your stupid commentary that asserts that because the KKK endorses freedom of speech, everybody who endorses free speech is racist?

You are just immune to recognizing patterns, aren't you?

Public education did you a disservice.
 
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A wave of research studies that began in the 1990s is focusing on the possible connection between the Nazi movement and today's green movement. In 1935, two years after the Nazis rose to power, the German government passed a Reich law for the protection of the natural environment, a law whose scope was unprecedented at the time and whose goal was to protect and care for the homeland's natural environment. The law included regulations for the protection of flora and fauna, as well as for the conservation of unique natural phenomena of scientific importance and of aesthetic and cultural value. These natural phenomena included Germany's celebrated forests, which were considered a central component of the German national identity.

The law also established procedures for the definition of nature reserves and authorized the state to expropriate land for the sake of such reserves without providing any compensation to the owners of the land. Violators of this law were given stiff penalties. In addition, attempts were made to formulate laws for the prevention of air pollution. The Reich's green laws - although this might sound sarcastic - forbade the slaughtering of animals that had not been previously anaesthetized and fixed limits on experiments on animals. Within the context of the Reich's laws for the protection of the natural environment, organic agriculture, which encouraged the use of manual plowshares in small farms instead of heavy machinery, was advanced.

Will this rather alarming historical background forever haunt all future green struggles? This question and many others came up in a conversation with a scholar of the Nazi period, historian Dr. Boaz Neumann of Tel Aviv University's Department of History, in connection with Holocaust Remembrance Day, which will be marked in Israel next Monday, and in connection with a new course he will be giving on the "University on the Air," broadcast on Army Radio. The course, scheduled to begin April 22, will present central approaches in the study of Nazism in the present generation. A special section will be devoted to the question, Were the Nazis 'green,' and if so, does it really matter? The discussion will be based on the assumption that there are new insights regarding Nazism and its dramatic implications for green projects.

Brown and Green: Were the Nazis forerunners of environmental movements?
 
Economics anyone? How about Maynard Keynes, the economists Obama and company love?

Keynes at Harvard - Chapter 7

Keynes once said that Hitler was proving his theories correct before he could get them published.

Keynes also commented that fascism was the best way for his theories to work.....that is.....before war broke out.
 
A wave of research studies that began in the 1990s is focusing on the possible connection between the Nazi movement and today's green movement. In 1935, two years after the Nazis rose to power, the German government passed a Reich law for the protection of the natural environment, a law whose scope was unprecedented at the time and whose goal was to protect and care for the homeland's natural environment. The law included regulations for the protection of flora and fauna, as well as for the conservation of unique natural phenomena of scientific importance and of aesthetic and cultural value. These natural phenomena included Germany's celebrated forests, which were considered a central component of the German national identity.

The law also established procedures for the definition of nature reserves and authorized the state to expropriate land for the sake of such reserves without providing any compensation to the owners of the land. Violators of this law were given stiff penalties. In addition, attempts were made to formulate laws for the prevention of air pollution. The Reich's green laws - although this might sound sarcastic - forbade the slaughtering of animals that had not been previously anaesthetized and fixed limits on experiments on animals. Within the context of the Reich's laws for the protection of the natural environment, organic agriculture, which encouraged the use of manual plowshares in small farms instead of heavy machinery, was advanced.

Will this rather alarming historical background forever haunt all future green struggles? This question and many others came up in a conversation with a scholar of the Nazi period, historian Dr. Boaz Neumann of Tel Aviv University's Department of History, in connection with Holocaust Remembrance Day, which will be marked in Israel next Monday, and in connection with a new course he will be giving on the "University on the Air," broadcast on Army Radio. The course, scheduled to begin April 22, will present central approaches in the study of Nazism in the present generation. A special section will be devoted to the question, Were the Nazis 'green,' and if so, does it really matter? The discussion will be based on the assumption that there are new insights regarding Nazism and its dramatic implications for green projects.

Brown and Green: Were the Nazis forerunners of environmental movements?

Yup.

 
I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21
lol

This is as ignorant as it is ridiculous and wrong.

Fascism in general, and Nazism in particular, is on the right side of the political spectrum: authoritarian and reactionary, seeking to return one’s country to an idealized past that never actually existed to begin with, fear of change, fear of diversity, fear of dissent, and a desire to compel conformity with a propensity for bigotry and racism – all are attributes of rightwing political dogma, both with regard to the extremism exhibited by Nazis in the past and American conservatives today.





Which is a stupid argument. There are two types of government, collectivist, and individualist. Any government that holds power over its citizens is collectivist in nature. The ultimate form of individualistic government is NO government. Anarchy in other words. Every socialistic system on the planet is collectivist. Socialist, communist, fascist. They are ALL collectivist. Thus they are fundamentally the same. The only difference is the degree that they deny individual rights to their people.
 
A wave of research studies that began in the 1990s is focusing on the possible connection between the Nazi movement and today's green movement. In 1935, two years after the Nazis rose to power, the German government passed a Reich law for the protection of the natural environment, a law whose scope was unprecedented at the time and whose goal was to protect and care for the homeland's natural environment. The law included regulations for the protection of flora and fauna, as well as for the conservation of unique natural phenomena of scientific importance and of aesthetic and cultural value. These natural phenomena included Germany's celebrated forests, which were considered a central component of the German national identity.

The law also established procedures for the definition of nature reserves and authorized the state to expropriate land for the sake of such reserves without providing any compensation to the owners of the land. Violators of this law were given stiff penalties. In addition, attempts were made to formulate laws for the prevention of air pollution. The Reich's green laws - although this might sound sarcastic - forbade the slaughtering of animals that had not been previously anaesthetized and fixed limits on experiments on animals. Within the context of the Reich's laws for the protection of the natural environment, organic agriculture, which encouraged the use of manual plowshares in small farms instead of heavy machinery, was advanced.

Will this rather alarming historical background forever haunt all future green struggles? This question and many others came up in a conversation with a scholar of the Nazi period, historian Dr. Boaz Neumann of Tel Aviv University's Department of History, in connection with Holocaust Remembrance Day, which will be marked in Israel next Monday, and in connection with a new course he will be giving on the "University on the Air," broadcast on Army Radio. The course, scheduled to begin April 22, will present central approaches in the study of Nazism in the present generation. A special section will be devoted to the question, Were the Nazis 'green,' and if so, does it really matter? The discussion will be based on the assumption that there are new insights regarding Nazism and its dramatic implications for green projects.

Brown and Green: Were the Nazis forerunners of environmental movements?

Yup.



If you harmed an animal or tree, they would send you off to a concentration camp to die.

Pretty telling that they valued animals over people.

Today, if you destroy the egg of an eagle, you can face jail time and thousands of dollars in fines, however, Progressives want tax payers to make abortions free.

Very telling.
 
I'm so tired of listening to people chirrup "pfft Nazi is fascist and fascist is right wing and right wing is Republican and Republican is White and White is Nazi and Nazi is fascist" and so on and so on...

good-sleep.gif


Nazis were not capitalists, people.
They were not Christians.
They were PROGRESSIVES and engaged in dangerous and frequently ignorant hero-worship of people who they thought were the arbiters of *science* and *intellect*. The Nazi party was founded by a bunch of young, smart, well educated dudes.

Those guys thought that all of Germany's problems could be cured by science and health, literally.
And they rejected Christianity because it put the lie to such nonsense.
They embraced eugenics..and rejected freedom of speech.

Who on our current political spectrum does that?

I'll tell you who...

The people who, like nazis, see everything through a filter of race.
The people who, like nazis, think children should be reared by the state.
The people who, like nazis, maintain capitalism is bad.
The people who. like nazis, seek to establish a single world order under their own ideology.

None of those are right wing tenets. All of those stances are symptomatic of radical, leftwing ideology.

Nazis are *right wing* only in their positioning, ideology-wise, to the marginal right side of marxism.

In fact, Nazis called marxists, *capitalists*, and reviled them for it. Which is a classic example of how propaganda worked then..and continues to work now...and is something else the nazis share with the left wing: their blatant and over the top use of propaganda to establish a false narrative that justifies the tyrannical and brutal acts of a murderous regime.

"Nazi rhetoric had become an integral part of a powerful anti-capitalist Zeitgeist, an ‘anti-system’ rallying cry that questioned the core principles of capitalism. Its proponents condemned its selfishness, materialism and unfairness, and instead demanded that the common good had to be protected from individual greed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21567689.2013.820436?src=recsys&journalCode=ftmp21
lol

This is as ignorant as it is ridiculous and wrong.

Fascism in general, and Nazism in particular, is on the right side of the political spectrum: authoritarian and reactionary, seeking to return one’s country to an idealized past that never actually existed to begin with, fear of change, fear of diversity, fear of dissent, and a desire to compel conformity with a propensity for bigotry and racism – all are attributes of rightwing political dogma, both with regard to the extremism exhibited by Nazis in the past and American conservatives today.





Which is a stupid argument. There are two types of government, collectivist, and individualist. Any government that holds power over its citizens is collectivist in nature. The ultimate form of individualistic government is NO government. Anarchy in other words. Every socialistic system on the planet is collectivist. Socialist, communist, fascist. They are ALL collectivist. Thus they are fundamentally the same. The only difference is the degree that they deny individual rights to their people.

Collectivists are generally way more Socially Conservative, and Nationalistic than Individualists.

Even the Communists have been.
 

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