Mariner
Active Member
I very much wish Muslim countries would pick themselves up and look forward rather than back.
CSM, you never answered my question. Why are we ignoring Saudi Arabia? Why are we so scared to go after the place 9/11 actually came from? There's a huge Wahhabi movement in that country that we could be attacking (directly, or indirectly through the Saudi Gov'g) right now--it's one of the most dangerous strains of fundamentalism. Actually, you did answer my question--we chose to pick on the easy, feel-good target, like the guy who looks for his lost wallet under the street lamp, because that's where he can see. Of course, it's not feeling so good right now. Front page of today's Times: the Red Cross accuses us of activities "tantamount to torture" at Guantanamo.
Right Wing--"diplomacy"?? Mr. "appeasement" has suddenly developed a taste for diplomacy? Amazing. Next time you accuse me of being a commie-pacificist-appeaser, I'm going to rename myself diplomatic, just like Right Wing Avenger himself. What did you say about contradictory positions? Come on, you have to have a better answer: why aren't we taking a 10 times harder line with Saudi Arabia?
(By the way, where was I contradictory? I've said from the beginning that you can't mollify committed terrorists, and have to attack them. The people I've argued we should be gentle with are moderate Muslims, "insurgents" who are simply defending their own homes, and suspects whom we've picked up without definite crimes, because mistreating these peope might make things worse for us, not better.)
Mariner.
CSM, you never answered my question. Why are we ignoring Saudi Arabia? Why are we so scared to go after the place 9/11 actually came from? There's a huge Wahhabi movement in that country that we could be attacking (directly, or indirectly through the Saudi Gov'g) right now--it's one of the most dangerous strains of fundamentalism. Actually, you did answer my question--we chose to pick on the easy, feel-good target, like the guy who looks for his lost wallet under the street lamp, because that's where he can see. Of course, it's not feeling so good right now. Front page of today's Times: the Red Cross accuses us of activities "tantamount to torture" at Guantanamo.
Right Wing--"diplomacy"?? Mr. "appeasement" has suddenly developed a taste for diplomacy? Amazing. Next time you accuse me of being a commie-pacificist-appeaser, I'm going to rename myself diplomatic, just like Right Wing Avenger himself. What did you say about contradictory positions? Come on, you have to have a better answer: why aren't we taking a 10 times harder line with Saudi Arabia?
(By the way, where was I contradictory? I've said from the beginning that you can't mollify committed terrorists, and have to attack them. The people I've argued we should be gentle with are moderate Muslims, "insurgents" who are simply defending their own homes, and suspects whom we've picked up without definite crimes, because mistreating these peope might make things worse for us, not better.)
Mariner.