YES, America CERTAINLY WAS FOUNDED as a CHRISTIAN NATION...

[007]

U.S. Capitol Tour with David Barton

 

[Indofred]

The white invaders of Indian lands introduced Christianity to those lands.
They had to murder a lot of the Indians to do so but I'm sure that, along with the rapes, murdering Indian children and so on, were entirely justified.

 

[bobcollum]

The phrase "Christian nation" goes against much of what the USA is all about.

 

[007]

The white invaders of Indian lands introduced Christianity to those lands.
They had to murder a lot of the Indians to do so but I'm sure that, along with the rapes, murdering Indian children and so on, were entirely justified.

Yes we brought Christianity with us. That's the point.

The rest of your post is entirely off topic.

 

[007]

The phrase "Christian nation" goes against much of what the USA is all about.

If you watched the video you'd see that that is only true for about the last 40 years. The age of the Christian hating liberal leftist and the ACLU.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ben Franklin and Tom Jefferson and Tom Paine and Ethan Allen, among others, would tell Dave Barton, whose latest book was recalled for the same errors he has been making from the first books, that he is full of crap. And you are just as much a do do for believing Barton as you are thinking Obama is a Kenyan.

You are a loon, Pale.

 

[Indofred]

The white invaders of Indian lands introduced Christianity to those lands.
They had to murder a lot of the Indians to do so but I'm sure that, along with the rapes, murdering Indian children and so on, were entirely justified.

Yes we brought Christianity with us. That's the point.

The rest of your post is entirely off topic.

Not off topic.
You said the US was founded as a Christian nation.
How that happened isn't off topic at all.

Unless you only want to mention the nice parts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Vikings and Native Americans and Europeans and Africans and all sorts of people founded "America", just not Christians.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The phrase "Christian nation" goes against much of what the USA is all about.

If you watched the video you'd see that that is only true for about the last 40 years. The age of the Christian hating liberal leftist and the ACLU.

Which makes no sense (as usual) given the fact the vast majority of liberals are Christian.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Not 'real' Christian, Clayton, not David Barton type of 'Christians.'

Washington et al would not worship with any of these David Barton Christians. Simply tell the ushers to turn "their crazy asses out into the alley".

 

[007]

Ben Franklin and Tom Jefferson and Tom Paine and Ethan Allen, among others, would tell Dave Barton, whose latest book was recalled for the same errors he has been making from the first books, that he is full of crap. And you are just as much a do do for believing Barton as you are thinking Obama is a Kenyan.

You are a loon, Pale.

Well Jake, you've spewed your line of crap without as much as a single link or fact. The video is full of facts, just as there is a mountain of proof that obama was born in kenya, and none that he was born in America.

You're a ignorant little twit Jake.

 

[Peach]

The phrase "Christian nation" goes against much of what the USA is all about.

Those persecuted because of religious beliefs are often the most adamant about religious freedom, thus, the Respect no....lause. This was NEVER a "Chrsitian" nation. Among the Founders, there were more agnostics than of any other 'faith'.

 

[Indofred]

Vikings and Native Americans and Europeans and Africans and all sorts of people founded "America", just not Christians.

The Vikings may well have landed in North America but didn't impact a lot on it.
The Native Americans were murdered in large numbers and the Africans were mostly slaves.

The Christian invaders were the ones who did the damage.

 

[007]

The phrase "Christian nation" goes against much of what the USA is all about.

If you watched the video you'd see that that is only true for about the last 40 years. The age of the Christian hating liberal leftist and the ACLU.

Which makes no sense (as usual) given the fact the vast majority of liberals are Christian.

And the proof for that claim is? ...

 

[007]

Vikings and Native Americans and Europeans and Africans and all sorts of people founded "America", just not Christians.

The Vikings may well have landed in North America but didn't impact a lot on it.
The Native Americans were murdered in large numbers and the Africans were mostly slaves.

The Christian invaders were the ones who did the damage.

So start your own thread about that dumb fuck. This thread is about the founding fathers of America being Christians.

 

[techieny]

The white invaders of Indian lands introduced Christianity to those lands.
They had to murder a lot of the Indians to do so but I'm sure that, along with the rapes, murdering Indian children and so on, were entirely justified.

Alright Cochise isn't bed time?

 

[JakeStarkey]

I have read Barton carefully for a number of years.

He is not a critical thinker, he does not consider all the evidence, and he can't understand that his opinion, based on all the evidence, is a minority one.

No credible proof exists that Obama was born in Kenya or that you were born in America.

You are still a loon.

Ben Franklin and Tom Jefferson and Tom Paine and Ethan Allen, among others, would tell Dave Barton, whose latest book was recalled for the same errors he has been making from the first books, that he is full of crap. And you are just as much a do do for believing Barton as you are thinking Obama is a Kenyan.

You are a loon, Pale.

Well Jake, you've spewed you line of crap without as much as a single link or fact. The video is full of facts, just as there is a mountain of proof that obama was born in kenya, and none that he was born in America.

You're a ignorant little twit Jake.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Franklin was not a Christian. Jefferson was not a Christian. Washington, Adams, and Madison were weak Christians, none of them having anything to do with evangelicalism or that sort of stuff.

Barton conveniently ignores all that or skews evidence.

Vikings and Native Americans and Europeans and Africans and all sorts of people founded "America", just not Christians.

The Vikings may well have landed in North America but didn't impact a lot on it.
The Native Americans were murdered in large numbers and the Africans were mostly slaves.

The Christian invaders were the ones who did the damage.

So start your own thread about that dumb fuck. This thread is about the founding fathers of America being Christians.

 

[nitroz]

1. The Text of the Constitution Does Not Say the United States Is a Christian Nation
2. The Founders’ Political Beliefs Would Not Have Led Them to Support the Christian-Nation Idea
3. The Key Founders Were Not Conservative Christians and Likely Would Not Have Supported an Officially Christian Nation
4. Shortly After the Constitution Was Ratified, Conservative Ministers Attacked It Because It Lacked References to Christianity
5. During the Post-Civil War Period, a Band of Politically Powerful Pastors Tried Repeatedly to Amend the U.S. Constitution to Add References to Jesus Christ and Christianity



And lastly, Article 11 on the Treaty of Tripoli, which went into effect on June 10, 1797.
"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

So, the OP is wrong.

 

[Old Rocks]

The US was founded as a secular nation. Our founders, having observed the religious wars in Europe, wanted none of that for this nation. A few of our founders were agnostics, foremost among them Franklin, and most of the rest were Diests.