Yep the Jews are Wrong in Not Making Peace With People Who Think This About them...

[GHook93]

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I mean how do you even seal a deal if they won't shake your hand!

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[daveman]

You can't negotiate with someone who will settle for nothing less than standing over your corpse.

 

[GHook93]

You can't negotiate with someone who will settle for nothing less than standing over your corpse.

LOL, I don't know what that would be!

 

[P F Tinmore]

It's the occupation, stupid.

 

[jillian]

You can't negotiate with someone who will settle for nothing less than standing over your corpse.

there's a truth to that.

on the other hand, i try to remember that golda meir said 'who are we going to negotiate with? our friends?"

To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It's the occupation, stupid.

No, it is not. Before there ever was a modern Israel the Mufta of Jerusalem was a Nazi and actively attacked Jews in what was then the territory of Palestine , he ordered other Muslims and Arabs to do the same.

Further the mandate that created Israel allowed for the creation of an Arab State. The 5 bordering Arab states ordered the Arabs in Palestine not to form a Country and they attacked Israel for sole purpose of driving out the Jews and dividing the region amongst them.

NO ONE wanted an Arab State. Not even the Arabs.

 

[eots]

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I mean how do you even seal a deal if they won't shake your hand!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIgG3qvcUX8

and if Someone ask you who these Palestinians are you would say what ??

 

[P F Tinmore]

It's the occupation, stupid.

No, it is not. Before there ever was a modern Israel the Mufta of Jerusalem was a Nazi and actively attacked Jews in what was then the territory of Palestine , he ordered other Muslims and Arabs to do the same.

Further the mandate that created Israel allowed for the creation of an Arab State. The 5 bordering Arab states ordered the Arabs in Palestine not to form a Country and they attacked Israel for sole purpose of driving out the Jews and dividing the region amongst them.

NO ONE wanted an Arab State. Not even the Arabs.

It is true that everyone had different agendas as to what was going to happen with Palestine.

Unfortunately, the only agenda that was completely ignored by all of these outside powers was the agenda of the Palestinians. The right to self determination by the indigenous population was shoved aside.

This is the root of the conflict. The Palestinians are still demanding their rights.

 

[Marc39]

It's the occupation, stupid.

Israel is occupying...Israel.

The League of Nations agreed...

Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country

Allah agrees...
Quran 5:20-21...

Remember Moses said to his people: 'O my people! Recall in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

Barack Obama agrees...:

Israel is a sovereign state, and the historic homeland of the Jewish people.

It should be clear to all that efforts to chip away at Israel's legitimacy will only be met by the unshakeable opposition of the United States. The slaughter of innocent Israelis is not resistance -- it's injustice

Remarks by the President to the United Nations General Assembly | The White House



Winston Churchill agreed...:

The Jews had Palestine before that indigenous population [the Arabs] came in and inhabited it

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The US Congress agrees...

The United States Congressional Record
1922 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NATIONAL HOME FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE JUNE 30, 1922
HOUSE RESOLUTION 360 - UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED

Palestine of today, the land we now know as Palestine, was peopled by the Jews from the dawn of history until the Roman era. It is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. They were driven from it by force by the relentless Roman military machine and for centuries prevented from returning. At different periods various alien people succeeded them but the Jewish race had left an indelible impress upon the land.

Today it is a Jewish country. Every name, every landmark, every monument and every trace of whatever civilization remaining there is still Jewish. And it has ever since remained a hope, a longing, as expressed in their prayers for these nearly 2,000 years. No other people has ever claimed Palestine as their national home. No other people has ever shown an aptitude or indicated a genuine desire to make it their homeland. The land has been ruled by foreigners. Only since the beginning of the modern Zionist effort may it be said that a creative, cultural, and economic force has entered Palestine. The Jewish Nation was forced from its natural home. It did not go because it wanted to.

A perusal of Jewish history, a reading of Josephus, will convince the most skeptical that the grandest fight that was ever put up against an enemy was put up by the Jew. He never thought of leaving Palestine. But he was driven out. But did he, when driven out, give up his hope of getting back? Jewish history and Jewish literature give the answer to the question. The Jew even has a fast day devoted to the day of destruction of the Jewish homeland.

Never throughout history did they give up hope of returning there. I am told that 90 per cent of the Jews today are praying for the return of the Jewish people to its own home. The best minds among them believe in the necessity of reestablishing their Jewish land. To my mind there is something prophetic in the fact that during the ages no other nation has taken over Palestine and held it in the sense of a homeland; and there is something providential in the fact that for 1,800 years it has remained in desolation as if waiting for the return of the people.

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[P F Tinmore]

Israel denies the indigenous Jews of Palestine their right to self determination.

They did not want Israel inside Palestine.

 

[Marc39]

Israel denies the indigenous Jews of Palestine their right to self determination.

They did not want Israel inside Palestine.

Er, Palestine ceased to exist in 1948 with the establishment of Israel.

Ever even open a newspaper?

Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formally abolished in 1948 with the termination of the [British] Mandate.

And, neither Jews nor Arabs have even recognized Palestine, since "Palaestina" is a European invention created by the Romans.

The correct historical geographic name of the land is Judea, from which "Jewish" is derived.

Your lesson for the day.

 

[daveman]

It's the occupation, stupid.

No, it's the mere fact that Jews exist. Your heroes, unstable, barbaric, irrational sissy bedwetters that they are, simply can't tolerate that.

 

[daveman]

You can't negotiate with someone who will settle for nothing less than standing over your corpse.

there's a truth to that.

on the other hand, i try to remember that golda meir said 'who are we going to negotiate with? our friends?"

To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be.

That's true. There are moderates who are willing to coexist with Israel...but they're not in power.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It's the occupation, stupid.

No, it's the mere fact that Jews exist. Your heroes, unstable, barbaric, irrational sissy bedwetters that they are, simply can't tolerate that.

This is not a religious conflict.

 

[Marc39]

It's the occupation, stupid.

No, it's the mere fact that Jews exist. Your heroes, unstable, barbaric, irrational sissy bedwetters that they are, simply can't tolerate that.

This is not a religious conflict.

Er, wrong, as usual, clueless one

Muwatta Imam Malik...

'Umar b. Abd al-Aziz reported that the last statement made by the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) was: O Lord, perish the Jews and the Christians. They made churches of the graves of their Prophets. Beware, there should be no two faiths in Arabia.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No, it's the mere fact that Jews exist. Your heroes, unstable, barbaric, irrational sissy bedwetters that they are, simply can't tolerate that.

This is not a religious conflict.

Er, wrong, as usual, clueless one

Muwatta Imam Malik...

'Umar b. Abd al-Aziz reported that the last statement made by the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) was: O Lord, perish the Jews and the Christians. They made churches of the graves of their Prophets. Beware, there should be no two faiths in Arabia.

Nice propaganda quote. It is Israel that is attacking Christians and Muslims.

 

[Marc39]

You can't negotiate with someone who will settle for nothing less than standing over your corpse.

there's a truth to that.

on the other hand, i try to remember that golda meir said 'who are we going to negotiate with? our friends?"

To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be.

That's true. There are moderates who are willing to coexist with Israel...but they're not in power.

There are few moderate Pallies. OTOH, Israel has good relations with the UAE and, except for a blip with Turkey, has had diplomatic relations iwth Turkey since 1949

 

[Marc39]

This is not a religious conflict.

Er, wrong, as usual, clueless one

Muwatta Imam Malik...

'Umar b. Abd al-Aziz reported that the last statement made by the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) was: O Lord, perish the Jews and the Christians. They made churches of the graves of their Prophets. Beware, there should be no two faiths in Arabia.

Nice propaganda quote. It is Israel that is attacking Christians and Muslims.

I'm quoting the same hadith read by 1.5 billion Muslims, shit for brains.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Er, wrong, as usual, clueless one

Muwatta Imam Malik...

Nice propaganda quote. It is Israel that is attacking Christians and Muslims.

I'm quoting the same hadith read by 1.5 billion Muslims, shit for brains.

What does that have to do with Israel attacking Christians and Muslims?

 

[jillian]

You can't negotiate with someone who will settle for nothing less than standing over your corpse.

there's a truth to that.

on the other hand, i try to remember that golda meir said 'who are we going to negotiate with? our friends?"

To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be.

That's true. There are moderates who are willing to coexist with Israel...but they're not in power.

actually, they are in power everywhere except gaza and iran. syria has bit its tongue and sucked it up for many years. they just like keeping the fires burning. If the Iran-funded terrorists were weeded out and the money cut off, I think you'd see a different circumstance. Israel seems to have been very good at making peace with people who actually want peace.