Yeah...He Said That!

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    1. "Why is it that the Democrats can’t stop telling us that “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that” is not what the president meant to say? Could it be that they’re afraid this clumsy attempt at an ad lib by Teleprompter Man could be dooming their chances this November?

    2. Rarely does a day go by without some Democratic Party house newsletter — New York magazine, The New York Times — screechingly informing us how unfair Republicans are being in quoting President Obama’s infamous speech at the Roanoke Fire Department on July 13. If Mitt Romney wins, there will be a plaque there, kinda like the one near the Chicago Baskin-Robbins where Barack Obama and Michelle Robinson had their first kiss.




    3. “There’s just nothing to it, and they hit it over and over,” Time’s Mark Halperin whined on CNN Thursday.

    4. But there was something to it, a lot to it. And far from being taken out of context, the speech, when you reverse the zoom lens from a single phrase to the general theme, becomes even more disturbing.

    5. “You didn’t build that” is indeed a fair summary of the overarching message.
    The full quotation that liberals find perfectly reasonable is this: “If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help,” Obama said. “There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”





    6. Obama is painting a frankly Marxist picture in which through sheer luck (say, inheriting a factory), rich layabouts, whom he calls the top 2%, are making fortunes while others toil. “Somebody else” is responsible for the success of successful entrepreneurs.

    7. ...46% of Americans pay no federal income tax at all.
    The top 1 percent pay 37% of all federal income taxes. So each of those horrible selfish plutocrats, along with the burden of their monocles and top hats, is carrying 36 other Americans on his back. They are their brothers’ keeper, and their sisters’, and their cousins’, and about five other families’. Why does Obama hate these saints?


    8. The 1 percenters aren’t choking traffic with 37% of the cars or crowding classrooms with 37% of the pupils. (Which have been so ruined by Obama-type thinking that the rich often choose private education in the first place and owe nothing to the public schools, whose costs they don’t even get a refund for.) The rich and small business owners (there is much overlap) are the ones who, to a hugely disproportionate degree, pay for the things Obama suggests they don’t pay for at all — because “somebody else” did it for them.





    9. A more honest speech would have been directed at the underclass and informed them: “Look, somebody else built those roads you use. Somebody else is paying for that welfare check you’re getting every month. Respect those who stayed in school, worked hard and delayed gratification. Try to learn something from them.”




    10. ...— graduate high school, get married and delay having children until your 20s — the poverty rate virtually vanishes. Only 8% of those who play by these basic American rules turn out poor.

    It turns out that if you’re stuck in the poverty trap, yes, you probably did build that."
    ‘You didn’t build that’ - NYPOST.com



    My buddy Boo made me post this....maybe he'll stop denying that that's what Obama said.....
     
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    i heart u :D:D:clap2::clap2::clap2: great thread.
     
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    since gautama is gone, i get my fix for performance art by pc threads.

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    That speech was meant to divide on several levels; first the syntax was deliberately disjointed and arguable in meaning, but can be easily understood by asking what "that" is. But he expected that people who are his allies would do contortions to make it about those things we all build together, and his opponents would take it literally; the conjunctive phrases: constisting of the pronoun "that" and the noun "business" it's connected to. I, and most of us who do things don't need a lesson in semantics to understand his goal. His intent was to stoke division to create another off topic distraction.
     
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    so you disagree that it was a clumsy non-teleprompter supported ad lib attempt?
     
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    I will accept joss sticks....

    ....much appreciated.
     
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    Have to drive that all the way into his stone heart.....no pussing out like they did when he showed his socialist bent with Joe the plumber.
     
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    There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me – because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t – look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.
    If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
    The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together
    . There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

    It's a flat out lie to say the President was talking about anyones' business. But that's what the Conz do isn't it?
     
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    hey polly, do you feel disappointment when you get applauding bites from all these bottom feeders, or do you enjoy it?
     
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    I thought his intent was to convince as many voters as possible that successful people should pay more taxes because they are indebted to the gov't for the roads, bridges, etc., that they used to become successful. Typical populist bullshit that he's famous for. I wish he was as intent on spending the money he gets now more wisely, or capping the spending at a reasonable level of increase.
     

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