Yankees Embrace Adult Stem Cell Operation

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    1. The fastballs were humming out of Bartolo Colon's right hand Wednesday night, the Yankee starter's heat routinely registering in the low to mid-90s on the radar gun.

    Colon's strong outings and lively fastball are all the more notable after the former Cy Young winner missed the entire 2010 season due to elbow surgery. The two seasons prior to 2010, Colon was in severe decline, making just 19 starts for two different teams during that stretch.

    Colon was the beneficiary of a legal stem cell procedure in 2010, even though stem cell treatment is still very much a developing science.

    Stem cells were taken from Colon's bone marrow and fat tissue and were then injected into Colon's elbow and shoulder to help repair damaged ligaments and a torn rotator cuff
    MLB investigates Yankees' Bartolo Colon stem cell procedure; technology is still in its infancy

    2. “The President's [March 9, 2009] decision does much more than expand funding for stem-cell research. It heralds a shift in the government's view of science, ushering in an era in which it promises to defend science — and the pursuit of useful treatments — against ideology.” – Time, March 9, 2009

    3. While the potency and success of adult stem cell treatments are becoming evident, treatments using embryonic stem cells have not produced any clinical successes. Rather, embryonic stem cell treatments tend to create tumors in numerous animal studies. The public should ponder these issues and ask why the media do not cover such results. In a world with limited funds for research, why are we arguing about unproven and often dangerous embryonic stem cell treatments when treatments using adult stem cells are today producing real results for real patients? Adult Stem Cell Success


    So, continued success for adult stem cell treatments, nothing for embrionic stem cells?

    Where's that hope and change....
     
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    Does not matter. Just because the research is not fruitful at this stage does not mean you slam a door on it in the political realm. It should be investigated as long as the experts, you know, scientists, believe that there is merit in the research. There are always moral implications that need to be addressed but those implications can be addressed in many other ways that do not block the research itself.
     
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    How does "hope and change" figure into the discussion? Sure there hasn't been as much progress on the embryonic side, but if it's defunded that would never "change". There's always "hope" for a break through on the embryonic front, but if it's defunded all "hopes" are dashed. Is that what you meant, go back to the days when a 'C" student held the future of science in his hands? :eek::cuckoo::cool:
     
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    uh huh....and of course IF the research yields positives, we'll do that again, address the 'moral implications'? To find the same loophole we found to forward the research, I would prefer you ( if you are 'for it') or they just say it straight out....
     
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    Say what "straight out"? Are you implying that something's being hidden? I don't think there's any question that embryonic stem cell researchers don't consider an embryo a baby and wouldn't see any problem with using ones that would be discarded anyway.
     
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    The Yankees have a farm system why would they need to delve into stem cell research?
     
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    Let me clarify that for you...

    1. One of the Left-libels aimed at President Bush was that he was preventing stem cell research, including the life-changing embrionic stem cell research...

    Myth 1: Bush banned federal funding of hESC (human embryonic stem cell ) research. (Some people even thought that he outlawed the research itself.)
    (1) from President Obama’s address on March 9, 2009: “we will lift the ban on federal funding for promising embryonic stem cell research.”
    (2) from the media: “President Obama lifted the eight-year-old ban on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research yesterday…” – Washington Post, March 10, 2009
    (3) from progressive websites: “With the stroke of a pen, President Barack Obama today erased the Bush administration’s eight-year-old restrictions on federal funding of research involving human embryonic stem cells, reaffirming his commitment to evidence and biomedical hope over his predecessor’s ideological distortion of science.” – Science Progress
    (4) from bioethicists: "After eight years of zero-budget funding of embryonic stem cell research, it is hardly fair and completely disingenuous for critics to point to the practice and wonder why it lags four decades behind government-funded adult stem cell research," -- Art Caplan, University of Pennsylvania
    Fact 1: Bush was the first to initiate the federal funding of hESC research.
    MercatorNet: Barack, can you spare a dime?

    2. President Bush announced, on August 9, 2001 that federal funds, for the first time, would be made available for hESC research on currently existing embryonic stem cell lines. President Bush authorized research on existing human embryonic stem cell lines, not on human embryos under a specific, unrealistic timeline in which the stem cell lines must have been developed. Stem cell controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    3. The slander included the idea that the Right was preventing significant cures that embrionic stem cell research would produce.
    With the 'hope and change' that President Obama's funding provideded, we still see that it is adult stem cells that actually provide hope of cures in many areas.

    4. In my view, part of the 'hope and change' campaign suggested that religious folks who were opposed to killing embryos to provide fodder for research, were preventing the march of science....
    this doesn't appear to have any actual validity.
     
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    What's that supposed to prove? You're complaining about "hope and change". How do you get that, if you defund research? Sorry researchers aren't moving fast enoough for you. Maybe you need to research what research is all about. Man tried to achieve powered flight for centuries. Do you think they should have stopped, just because there were lots of failures?
     
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    Konny.....this is hardly about research and cures...it is a Left-wing smear. It was prepared in some Democrat war room as a corollary to another smear that you probably believe, that Bush is dumb.

    1. While the potency and success of adult stem cell treatments are becoming evident, treatments using embryonic stem cells have not produced any clinical successes. Rather, embryonic stem cell treatments tend to create tumors in numerous animal studies. The public should ponder these issues and ask why the media do not cover such results. In a world with limited funds for research, why are we arguing about unproven and often dangerous embryonic stem cell treatments when treatments using adult stem cells are today producing real results for real patients? Adult Stem Cell Success

    Did you see what I bolded for you?
     

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