WW2 began 79 years ago, Poland first to fight the Nazis.

[zaangalewa]

Just think, if this president that we have now had been president back then we might’ve ended up on the side of the Nazis.

There was a genocide on the scale of Nazis by Soviets, not once, but twice before Hitler's Holocaust / WW2 killings.

Once with Lenin in the Russian Civil War + Volga Famine, probably 10 - 20 million perished, then another 15 - 40 million perished under the NKVD atrocities under Stalin, and Genrikh Yagoda of the Holodomor, the Gulag genocides, Great Purges, Polish Operation of the NKVD.

No one did anything, and thus 25 - 65 million perished by the Soviet butchers.

Germans sent Lenin into Russia with 10mil in currency to start the Russian revolution.

The Prussian emperor over Germany William II - he saw in himself a Brit too - did do so. In this way he had destroyed finally the might of the nobles in whole Europe. The revolution in Russia was by the way also supported from lots of US-Americans, because it was a fight against nobles. This gave Hitlers confusing argument plausibility Jews are evil Russian Socialists and evil Wall-Street Capitalists - so he was able to use this stupid argument for his perfidious propagandistic structure. If a Jew had money then was an evil US-Capitalist - if he was poor he was an evil Russian Socialist in the propaganda of the Nazis.

 

[OsteInmar]

In light of Poland being the first to fight the Nazis, there's still persistent ploys to blame Poland for the Holocaust.

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak
01.09.2018 09:30
Observances commemorating the 79th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II were held in Poland at dawn on Saturday.

World War II commemorations held on Westerplatte in the coastal city of Gdańsk. Photo: PAP/Marcin Gadomski

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki attended observances held on Westerplatte in Gdańsk on the Baltic coast, where on September 1, 1939 at 4:45 am the German battleship Schleswig-Holstein began shelling a Polish military depot in the first battle between Polish and German soldiers of WWII.

Morawiecki called Westerplatte a symbolic “patch of Poland,” where Polish soldiers fought to defend their country’s independence.

“From the very first days of World War II, Polish soldiers and society changed the fate of the world; they fought to protect the free world against the enemies of freedom, Poland and Europe,” Morawiecki said.

Sirens wailed and the Polish national anthem was played at a monument honouring those who defended the Polish coast.

The week-long defence by the Poles against overwhelmingly larger German forces became a symbol of the heroism of Polish soldiers.

Observances were also held in central city of Wieluń, the first Polish town to be bombed by the Germans at 4:40 am on 1 September 1939.

In a letter read out at the ceremony President Andrzej Duda said: “Bombing a sleeping city, which had no Polish military garrison and was of no strategic importance, was a crime.”

“The destruction of houses, churches, a Protestant church, synagogue, hospital were barbaric and a dramatic harbinger of the character of World War II, which was symbolised by a mass annihilation of entire communities.”

The Wieluń observances took place at a site where there was a hospital on the day the war broke out. The war’s first bombs fell on that building, killing 32 people, including 26 patients. In all, the Germans killed around 1,200 civilians in the city that day.

Duda took part in commemorations in the northern town of Tczew, where 16 people, chiefly rail workers, were killed on September 1, 1939.

Duda said this year’s ceremonies fell on the centenary of Poland’s independence, which Poland regained on November 11, 1918, the day World War I ended, after 123 years of partition by Russia, Austria and Prussia.

He said: “The dates 1 September and 17 September [marking the Soviet invasion from the east] are a bleak reminder in this year’s 100th anniversary of Poland’s independence as these dates remind [Poles] of the time they again lost their homeland and Poland was divided between its two major enemies

Wasn't it the Germans who were the first to fight the Poles?

It is necessary to consider as a mystery and tragedy of European history the fact that this people
- capable of any heroism, some of whose representatives are talented, valiant and charming
almost always in all aspects of his state life.
- Glory in times of riots and grief;
- infamy and disgrace during periods of triumph.
"The bravest of the brave were led too often by the most vile of the abominable!"

Winston Churchill.

It should be pointed out that three days after Germany's attack on Poland, the commander of the Polish army ordered the retreat of "territories where it is safe." He had in mind Romania, where Polish officers could have fled abroad ...
The speed of the flight of the Polish army is amazing. As a rule, troops must go 20 km a day, 4 days to go, then 1 day - to rest. But, in fact, the Poles fled so that they passed 40 km per day !!!

Losses of officers:
As you know, the normal losses of officers / soldiers in the Army = 1/10
If = 1/3, then it means that the soldiers are unprepared and the officers are at war. (This was the case in the early days when Germany attacked the USSR)
If = 1/20, then it means that only soldiers are at war, but officers are cowardly scum.

But in the Polish army of 1939 it was = 1/33 !!!!!!!!!

Polish officers fled from the Germans. The Polish Government, first fled to ......
But this is a long and interesting story. I can write a lot about the Poles.

 

[zaangalewa]

Just think, if this president that we have now had been president back then we might’ve ended up on the side of the Nazis.

President Donald Trump would have put a stop to the illegal military expansion of Adolph Hitler ...

President Trump likes not to see any longer any Mercedes Benz in NY and the USA. Will be interesting to see when he will win this "war" and what the results including all side effects will be. Tell me when Mexico will pay his wall.

 

[zaangalewa]

In light of Poland being the first to fight the Nazis, there's still persistent ploys to blame Poland for the Holocaust.

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak
01.09.2018 09:30
Observances commemorating the 79th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II were held in Poland at dawn on Saturday.

World War II commemorations held on Westerplatte in the coastal city of Gdańsk. Photo: PAP/Marcin Gadomski

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki attended observances held on Westerplatte in Gdańsk on the Baltic coast, where on September 1, 1939 at 4:45 am the German battleship Schleswig-Holstein began shelling a Polish military depot in the first battle between Polish and German soldiers of WWII.

Morawiecki called Westerplatte a symbolic “patch of Poland,” where Polish soldiers fought to defend their country’s independence.

“From the very first days of World War II, Polish soldiers and society changed the fate of the world; they fought to protect the free world against the enemies of freedom, Poland and Europe,” Morawiecki said.

Sirens wailed and the Polish national anthem was played at a monument honouring those who defended the Polish coast.

The week-long defence by the Poles against overwhelmingly larger German forces became a symbol of the heroism of Polish soldiers.

Observances were also held in central city of Wieluń, the first Polish town to be bombed by the Germans at 4:40 am on 1 September 1939.

In a letter read out at the ceremony President Andrzej Duda said: “Bombing a sleeping city, which had no Polish military garrison and was of no strategic importance, was a crime.”

“The destruction of houses, churches, a Protestant church, synagogue, hospital were barbaric and a dramatic harbinger of the character of World War II, which was symbolised by a mass annihilation of entire communities.”

The Wieluń observances took place at a site where there was a hospital on the day the war broke out. The war’s first bombs fell on that building, killing 32 people, including 26 patients. In all, the Germans killed around 1,200 civilians in the city that day.

Duda took part in commemorations in the northern town of Tczew, where 16 people, chiefly rail workers, were killed on September 1, 1939.

Duda said this year’s ceremonies fell on the centenary of Poland’s independence, which Poland regained on November 11, 1918, the day World War I ended, after 123 years of partition by Russia, Austria and Prussia.

He said: “The dates 1 September and 17 September [marking the Soviet invasion from the east] are a bleak reminder in this year’s 100th anniversary of Poland’s independence as these dates remind [Poles] of the time they again lost their homeland and Poland was divided between its two major enemies

Should have given Danzig back and stopped murdering,raping and all kind of other things to the Germans living there. Hitler was RIGHT!

Which zoo do you come from?

 

[zaangalewa]

. 2 World War began when Poland attacked Czechoslovakia after the conclusion of the Munich collusion. ...

That's not the reason for world war

1. The name of the line is not about the causes of the war, but about the actual beginning of the war. Do you understand the difference?

It was no cause of world war 2. In this moment of history this was seen only as a correction of an historical mistake. Bohemia was an old German territory.

2. The reasons for the war I wrote later, read the line..
. 3. What you wrote is not even a reason, and not an excuse for World War, but disagreements between countries when one people lives in different border countries. If there are no global reasons, they will not fight.

I don't have any idea what you speak about now. The main cause for world war 2 was world war 1.

Global causes (simplified)
1. Private ownership of the means of production, which leads to inequality and production crisis, when the owner (after the 18th century, the capitalist) can not make a profit in his country, then he starts a war. This is proved by the French philosopher Jean-Jacques-Rousseau.
They divide the world ....

2. When the World is divided, the Empires have colonies. The struggle for the redivision of the World begins. This is proved by the Great German politician, warrior and chancellor Bismarck.

3. Nothing has changed. In the early 21st century, the same reasons, so the war will not disappear.

I don't see any sense to think in such ways. Sounds like Commie propaganda in my ears.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Please explain why Poles helped German Nazis to carry out the Jewish Holocaust.

Opportunism, Antisemitism, Blackmail ... without the help of Polish people the Holocaust would had been impossible. How should the Nazis know in Polish areas who was a Jew and who not?

Please explain why Poles have supported the Roman Catholic Church, which collaborated with German Nazis

The Catholic Church in Germany never collaborated with the Nazi regime.

and even hid them after the war and helped them get away to places like Paraguay;

A myth too. As well Caritas and Red Cross made mistakes when they gave papers. That's all. The people in South Americs did by the way also help lots of Jews and other European refugees, Germans too. God bless them.

This is one of the reasons why I refuse to count myself as as an RC or follow this faith, even though I have ancestral roots in Russia and Poland.

Actually it's mostly Jews themselves in the Judenrate who had documented the Jewish community to the Nazi Germans.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The Nazis and, eventually, many Germans themselves were atrocious to the Poles. This is why it's mystifying to me that you parrot some of the Nazi sentiments about certain religious people.

Don't do that. You know what that is. Just don't do it. It's so ugly.

Jews are responsible for most of the anti-Polish propaganda floating around, why should I like this tribe, exactly?

I always wondered myselve why Jews showed such a nearly unbelievable patience with Polish people for so long decades of history since the Holocaust. It's by the way interesting for me that you call Jews a[n evil German] tribe. You are on your own a good example what Jews are not able to tolerate, although it is not wrong what you say.

What patience have Jews shown with Polish people?

Jews came up with dumb Polak jokes in America, and have been at the forefront at calling Poles Holocaust perpetrators.

 

[zaangalewa]

Please explain why Poles helped German Nazis to carry out the Jewish Holocaust.

Opportunism, Antisemitism, Blackmail ... without the help of Polish people the Holocaust would had been impossible. How should the Nazis know in Polish areas who was a Jew and who not?

Please explain why Poles have supported the Roman Catholic Church, which collaborated with German Nazis

The Catholic Church in Germany never collaborated with the Nazi regime.

and even hid them after the war and helped them get away to places like Paraguay;

A myth too. As well Caritas and Red Cross made mistakes when they gave papers. That's all. The people in South Americs did by the way also help lots of Jews and other European refugees, Germans too. God bless them.

This is one of the reasons why I refuse to count myself as as an RC or follow this faith, even though I have ancestral roots in Russia and Poland.

Actually it's mostly Jews themselves in the Judenrate who had documented the Jewish community to the Nazi Germans.

0.5% of the Germans were Jews. And who was a Jew in Germany was written in public records of the register offices in Germany. And do you think it is okay to quarter Antisemites also in case they are Polish Antisemites like you?

 

[zaangalewa]

The Nazis and, eventually, many Germans themselves were atrocious to the Poles. This is why it's mystifying to me that you parrot some of the Nazi sentiments about certain religious people.

Don't do that. You know what that is. Just don't do it. It's so ugly.

Jews are responsible for most of the anti-Polish propaganda floating around, why should I like this tribe, exactly?

I always wondered myselve why Jews showed such a nearly unbelievable patience with Polish people for so long decades of history since the Holocaust. It's by the way interesting for me that you call Jews a[n evil German] tribe. You are on your own a good example what Jews are not able to tolerate, although it is not wrong what you say.

What patience have Jews shown with Polish people?

Poland is still not a nuclear hell.

Jews came up with dumb Polak jokes in America, and have been at the forefront at calling Poles Holocaust perpetrators.

Dumb Polak Jokes? ... Do you like to say Poles stole our dumb Polak Jokes and sold it to the Jews in the USA?

 

[zaangalewa]

Please explain why Poles helped German Nazis to carry out the Jewish Holocaust.

Opportunism, Antisemitism, Blackmail ... without the help of Polish people the Holocaust would had been impossible. How should the Nazis know in Polish areas who was a Jew and who not?

Please explain why Poles have supported the Roman Catholic Church, which collaborated with German Nazis

The Catholic Church in Germany never collaborated with the Nazi regime.

and even hid them after the war and helped them get away to places like Paraguay;

A myth too. As well Caritas and Red Cross made mistakes when they gave papers. That's all. The people in South Americs did by the way also help lots of Jews and other European refugees, Germans too. God bless them.

This is one of the reasons why I refuse to count myself as as an RC or follow this faith, even though I have ancestral roots in Russia and Poland.

Actually it's mostly Jews themselves in the Judenrate who had documented the Jewish community to the Nazi Germans.

You wrote wrong the German word - that's why I misinterpreted first what you said here. But it is correct what you say here. The existence of the so called "Judenräte" - an idea of Reinhard Heydrich - explains on its own very well the knowledge of the Nazis about the places and the numbers of Jews in the East of Europe.

Nevertheless I read a long time ago a book of a Jew who had lived in Poland in this time of history. It was definitely a big problem for a Jew to survive, who was recognized from Poles as a Jew. Sure existed heroes - but it's also clear that lots of Poles were Antisemites too. In his eyes every Pole was as dangerous as every German.

 

[Doc7505]

In light of Poland being the first to fight the Nazis, there's still persistent ploys to blame Poland for the Holocaust.

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak
01.09.2018 09:30
Observances commemorating the 79th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II were held in Poland at dawn on Saturday.

World War II commemorations held on Westerplatte in the coastal city of Gdańsk. Photo: PAP/Marcin Gadomski

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki attended observances held on Westerplatte in Gdańsk on the Baltic coast, where on September 1, 1939 at 4:45 am the German battleship Schleswig-Holstein began shelling a Polish military depot in the first battle between Polish and German soldiers of WWII.

Morawiecki called Westerplatte a symbolic “patch of Poland,” where Polish soldiers fought to defend their country’s independence.

“From the very first days of World War II, Polish soldiers and society changed the fate of the world; they fought to protect the free world against the enemies of freedom, Poland and Europe,” Morawiecki said.

Sirens wailed and the Polish national anthem was played at a monument honouring those who defended the Polish coast.

The week-long defence by the Poles against overwhelmingly larger German forces became a symbol of the heroism of Polish soldiers.

Observances were also held in central city of Wieluń, the first Polish town to be bombed by the Germans at 4:40 am on 1 September 1939.

In a letter read out at the ceremony President Andrzej Duda said: “Bombing a sleeping city, which had no Polish military garrison and was of no strategic importance, was a crime.”

“The destruction of houses, churches, a Protestant church, synagogue, hospital were barbaric and a dramatic harbinger of the character of World War II, which was symbolised by a mass annihilation of entire communities.”

The Wieluń observances took place at a site where there was a hospital on the day the war broke out. The war’s first bombs fell on that building, killing 32 people, including 26 patients. In all, the Germans killed around 1,200 civilians in the city that day.

Duda took part in commemorations in the northern town of Tczew, where 16 people, chiefly rail workers, were killed on September 1, 1939.

Duda said this year’s ceremonies fell on the centenary of Poland’s independence, which Poland regained on November 11, 1918, the day World War I ended, after 123 years of partition by Russia, Austria and Prussia.

He said: “The dates 1 September and 17 September [marking the Soviet invasion from the east] are a bleak reminder in this year’s 100th anniversary of Poland’s independence as these dates remind [Poles] of the time they again lost their homeland and Poland was divided between its two major enemies

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Through this all everyone forgets that both Nazi Germany and Russia attacked Poland on that Day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland
The Invasion of Poland, known in Poland as the September Campaign (Kampania wrześniowa) or the 1939 Defensive War (Wojna obronna 1939 roku), and in Germany as the Poland Campaign (Polenfeldzug) or Fall Weiss ("Case White"), was a joint invasion of Poland by Germany, the Soviet Union, the Free City of Danzig, and a small Slovak …