WTF? Record poverty increase in the USA?

[daveman]

So then everyone thinks the influx of Low income Poorly educated immigrants has no effect on this then?

No, no, it's the Republican's fault. Somehow. It just is.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The "War on poverty" is a rhetorical phrase. It means nothing.

Like the "War on drugs". Or the "War on terror".

 

[Charles_Main]

So then everyone thinks the influx of Low income Poorly educated immigrants has no effect on this then?

This nation has ALWAYS been a nation of immigrants.

That does not address the question at all. We have up to 20 Million illegals and another 2 Million legal immigrants each year who are mostly uneducated and poor literally flooding into this country. That is not happening in a vacuum It has to have an effect on the number of poor in America.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

So then everyone thinks the influx of Low income Poorly educated immigrants has no effect on this then?

This nation has ALWAYS been a nation of immigrants.

That does not address the question at all. We have up to 20 Million illegals and another 2 Million legal immigrants each year who are mostly uneducated and poor literally flooding into this country. That is not happening in a vacuum It has to have an effect on the number of poor in America.

It does address the question, since the question refers to the recent dramatic rise in the poverty rate. This nation has been made up mostly of poor, uneducated immigrants since the early 1600s.

 

[Oddball]

The "War on poverty" is a rhetorical phrase. It means nothing.

Like the "War on drugs". Or the "War on terror".

I didn't coin the term...LBJ did.

And his fool "war" is no more successful than either of the other two, despite the confiscation of $7+ trillion dollars from the productive, in order to pad the fat backsides of the unproductive.

 

[Charles_Main]

This nation has ALWAYS been a nation of immigrants.

That does not address the question at all. We have up to 20 Million illegals and another 2 Million legal immigrants each year who are mostly uneducated and poor literally flooding into this country. That is not happening in a vacuum It has to have an effect on the number of poor in America.

It does address the question, since the question refers to the recent dramatic rise in the poverty rate. This nation has been made up mostly of poor, uneducated immigrants since the early 1600s.

Really and did we always have such a massive influx of them over such a short amount of time. Nope.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The "War on poverty" is a rhetorical phrase. It means nothing.

Like the "War on drugs". Or the "War on terror".

I didn't coin the term...LBJ did.

And his fool "war" is no more successful than either of the other two, despite the confiscation of $7+ trillion dollars from the productive, in order to pad the fat backsides of the unproductive.

All three "wars" have cost billions and solved nothing. On that we agree.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

That does not address the question at all. We have up to 20 Million illegals and another 2 Million legal immigrants each year who are mostly uneducated and poor literally flooding into this country. That is not happening in a vacuum It has to have an effect on the number of poor in America.

It does address the question, since the question refers to the recent dramatic rise in the poverty rate. This nation has been made up mostly of poor, uneducated immigrants since the early 1600s.

Really and did we always have such a massive influx of them over such a short amount of time. Nope.

Got anything to back up your claims?

 

[Oddball]

Yeah...And in the case of the topic of the thread, the problem is even worse than when the policy was begun.

And leftloons have the gall to mewl over the failings of bad corporate policy and the havoc it wreaks in the nation.

 

[Big Black Dog]

But they will listen to the Conservative Media, and vote the Repubs and their failed policies back in this election. In a Democracy, we get the government that we deserve. And all too many of the newly poor seem to believe that they deserve to be poor. Or, at least, that is the way that they vote.

Wait a minute...I thought the so-called "war on poverty" started back in 1965, under a democrat controlled congress and a democrat president.

Yet, 45+ years and $7+ TRILLION later, poverty is even worse?!?!?...Is that supposed to be evidence of success?

From what I've seen, the Democrats have trouble with any kind of stimulus. It apparently isn't a new trend.

 

[Charles_Main]

It does address the question, since the question refers to the recent dramatic rise in the poverty rate. This nation has been made up mostly of poor, uneducated immigrants since the early 1600s.

Really and did we always have such a massive influx of them over such a short amount of time. Nope.

Got anything to back up your claims?

sure do

As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than all other countries in the world combined.[1] Since the liberalization of immigration policy in 1965,[2] the number of first- generation immigrants living in the United States has quadrupled,[3] from 9.6 million in 1970 to about 38 million in 2007.[4] 1,046,539 persons were naturalized as U.S. citizens in 2008. The leading emigrating countries to the United States were Mexico, India, and the Philippines.[5]

And that only deals with legal Immigrants.

Since 65 We have been importing more and more every year. Do you really think it has no effect on how many people live under the poverty line in the country?

in fact we allow more to come here than EVERY other country on earth combined and yet everyone thinks we need to let even more in each year. I state again this does not exist in a vavuum. Actions have consequences, encouraging a massive influx of poorly educated, and poor people to come here each year is bound to increase the number of people living in poverty here.

Immigration to the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Take a close look at the table at the bottom of the page titled

Top Ten Foreign Countries - Foreign Born Population Among U.S. Immigrants

Note it shows EXACTLY what I am saying. Not only are the top 10 Countries mostly poorer nations, but the Numbers of foreign born citizens from those countries has grown Exponentially each year in the last 10 years.

 

[Capitalist]

 

[Old Rocks]

Not in favor of any of that crap either.

Expropriating the resources of the productive in order to feather the nests of people who did nothing productive to earn those resources in an abhorrence, no matter where the funds go.

You don't like bankers and derivitive traders either, eh?

 

[JWBooth]

But they will listen to the Conservative Media, and vote the Repubs and their failed policies back in this election. In a Democracy, we get the government that we deserve. And all too many of the newly poor seem to believe that they deserve to be poor. Or, at least, that is the way that they vote.

Wait a minute...I thought the so-called "war on poverty" started back in 1965, under a democrat controlled congress and a democrat president.

Yet, 45+ years and $7+ TRILLION later, poverty is even worse?!?!?...Is that supposed to be evidence of success?

Yet only in the US is poverty defined by a welfare check, a 52" flat screen TV and absurd obesity levels.