WTF is wrong with a civil union?

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  1. Grampa Murked U
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    Marriage has ALWAYS been defined as between a man and a woman. It is centuries of tradition. A civil union can be created to give all the same perks as traditional marriage so what's the big fucking deal? Is this just a ploy to diminish the traditional values of most Americans or just a political weapon to divide the people? Cause it sure seems so since there is an alternative that achieves the same goal, civil union legislation.

    I mean this is considered an "alternative" lifestyle so why the push for a traditional label that has long been honored by everyone?

    Many of you claim some of us are against equal treatment but you're wrong. You can have equal treatment but you don't need to trash traditional values to achieve it.
     
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    In my world, I against them because it's still state involvement in a private matter.

    In the lolberal world, it's a matter of nothing more than semantics.
     
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    I say we should have civil unions for everyone.

    If you want a religious marriage then get one.

    Thaat way religious types can keep the word marriage
     
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    That, and the homos want us to like them.
     
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    While true I wish civil unions would be embraced so we could put this issue behind us. It's damaging to both parties and fosters gridlock.
     
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    They want Christian privilege until it's Christmas time.. then they'll shit all over it.
     
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    This whole issue is a matter of forced acceptence and an attempt to claim a violation of 'rights'. All those couples need do is go and enter into an agreement through civil channels without taking over or changing the meaning of traditional values.
     
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    I agree, equality for straights and gays. Everyone should be able to get a civil union, up to the church to recognize a marriage.

    If the church doesn't want to recognize or perform gay marriages, remarriages, or marriages of people with crooked noses, they shouldn't have to. But in terms of the law, equal civil unions should be the goal for everyone.
     
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    So you disagree with the concept of common law marriage? You're right that it's all about the contract of marriage, not the religious ritual that some people choose. It's about the rights of power of attorney, to create common property, to be able to have hospital visitation, to have the basic next of kin rights that married people have.

    But your argument becomes bullshit when you want to call it something it's not. Civil unions? Why not pass laws to apply that label to common law and people who aren't married in a church, as civil unions? But then we'll also need laws to allow people who are married by some court person or sea captain, to be allowed to adopt and have family benefits, etc.

    Why not just get over the fact that if two people want to contract to a family commitment, that they be given equal protection, and present themselves as married?
     
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    The government should have absolutely no role in marriage. No perks or set backs, no "license', which is essentially outlawing marriage unless authorization is granted by the "authorities" to do so.

    This issue would be a complete no-issue if it weren't the always intrusive, state that wants to usurp the social elements of society for dictation.
     
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