Wow! France...Wow.....France Gets It Right?

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    PARIS, February 16, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A government commission set up at the request of the President of the French National Assembly has concluded that homosexual ‘marriage’ and adoption by homosexual couples, and medically assisted procreation for homosexual couples should not be permitted by law. The decisive factor to the report's conclusions, after an investigation of more than a year, was the commission’s decision to act “to affirm and protect children’s rights and the primacy of those rights over adults’ aspirations.”

    The Information Mission, as the commission was called, was to propose any change to the law and to administrative practices that were necessary to better protect the rights of the child and to reflect changes in the French family. The commission’s report, the Parliamentary Report on the Family and the Rights of Children, released January 27, 2006 did acknowledge that the French family has altered significantly, becoming “more diverse and less institutionalized”, but recommended nonetheless that in the best interests of children homosexual ‘marriage’ should remain prohibited.

    The Information Mission made every effort to hear all views on the subject. It organized 14 round tables and heard 130 people from the diversity of French society. It travelled to Spain, the United Kingdom, Belgium, the Netherlands and Canada to assess the reforms that have been undertaken in other countries.

    The report sets out 100 proposals that require amendments to existing statutory or regulatory provisions.

    The Mission considered demands for marriage to be made available to same-sex couples, and was of the view that it “is not possible to think about marriage separately from filiation: the two questions are closely connected, in that marriage is organized around the child.” Said the report: “ Marriage is not merely the contractual recognition of the love between a couple; it is a framework that imposes rights and duties, and that is designed to provide for the care and harmonious development of the child. Foreign examples demonstrate this: countries that have made marriage available to same-sex couples have all, simultaneously or subsequently, authorized adoption by those couples and developed systems for assisted procreation or surrogate gestation, to enable those couples to have children.”

    The report stated: “It would in fact be incoherent, if couples were regarded as equal, to remove the prohibition on marriage and preserve it for filiation.”

    Summing up its decision process on the matter, the Information Mission says, “Making marriage available to same-sex couples therefore presupposes that they will also be given the right to adopt and receive medical assistance for procreation, and even the right to use surrogate mothers, because such couples are not fertile. The Mission is divided on this subject. It considered the consequences for the child’s development and the construction of his or her identity of creating a fictitious filiation by law – two fathers, or two mothers – which is biologically neither real nor plausible. Diametrically opposed representations were made by the people heard on this point, and they failed to persuade a majority of the Mission to support recognizing a right to a child or a right to marriage, for same-sex couples. A majority of the Mission does not wish to question the fundamental principles of the law of filiation, which are based on the tripartite unit of ‘a father, a mother, a child’, citing the principle of caution. For that reason, that majority also, logically, chose to deny access to marriage to same-sex couples.”

    See the full French Parliamentary Report (in French):
    http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/12/dossiers/mission_famill...

    http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/feb/06021601.html
     
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    woah. Is this from the onion?
     
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    I'd say that this ruling is a blow to the homosexual cause, but think of the confusion THAT would create...
     
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    I'm really glad that the French government and other governments have the best interests of the child at heart...it would be nice if they would focus on the thousands of cases of abuse that occur each day instead of telling gays they can't marry or adopt.
     
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    One thing at a time is a pretty good pace.
     
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    If there were actually any credible evidence showing that children having gay parents was detrimental to their well-being, I might agree with you. As it stands, there is no evidence to even suggest that gay parents are any better, or worse, than their traditional counterparts. The children I've met who have gay parents are as bright and well adjusted as any other children I meet. Having seen several of them grow through adolescence into adulthood and marriage, There was no apparent damage to their sexual orientation.
     
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    And I've met children of gay "parents" that were screwed up beyond belief due to all the funky crap they'd been through. The statistics, however, favor the French ruling in this case. Personal experience doesn't trump that.
     
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    No, but the studies cited <a href=http://www.colage.org/research/facts.html#facts>HERE</a> do.
     
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    The general scientific consensus is that the "10% of the general population" claim was vastly inflated by homosexual activists; the true number has been revised downward to 1-2%. Www.colage.org, then, has two options: admit that their numbers are likewise falsified, or accept that these children are as many as TEN TIMES more likely to be homosexuals. Not much of a choice, is it?

    "A wide variety of things"..."higher self-esteem"..."more caring..." - Wow! Isn't hard, objective, measurable science wonderful? How could the French have failed to avail themselves of these indisputable, myth-busting conclusions?

    Ah, so it's SOCIETY'S fault! Now, there's a fresh, daring concept. :sleep:
     
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    The only thing that anyone should be concerned with when it comes to parenting is that parents, whether gay or straight, raise the children in a comfortable, nurturing environment. There will be parents on both sides of the sexual preference spectrum who will suck...that's a given. If gay people are going to adopt, just like a heterosexual couple might, the only condition should be that they are suitable parents. No child should be raised to be gay or straight-- that is for him/her to figure out. If a gay couple makes it clear to the children that being gay is not the only way, then there is no problem whatsoever.
     

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