Wow! Commonsense: 1/2 Children Are Below Average

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    That's where NCLB causes a problem:

    http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110009531&mod=RSS_Opinion_Journal&ojrss=frontpage

     
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    Has this changed? Were there only a few extremly unintelligent before that drove down the average?

    Or has a few got extremly intelligent lately, driving the average up?

    In a normally distributed curve, half is to be excpected, isn't it?

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    "Wow! Commonsense: 1/2 Children Are Below Average "
    Okey... I get it. Irony. Damn I'm stupid.
     
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    Nah, it's the language thing! LOL!
     
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    Okay, thanks for letting me slip through this time! :)
     
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    So, is this the old, the glass is half empty, or half full dilemma?
     
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    It appears half of our kids are half empty or only half full in the intelligence department.

    Are vocational schools the answer to the failed education system? Should grade school children be placed in slow track/fast track learning groups or different schools according to their IQ levels? Would this help solve some of the problems in the schools?
     
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    As we say round here: for everyone with an IQ in the 130-140 range, there are 3 or 4 at 90, so we are outnumbered, but not out gunned!
     
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    Kathianne, you are a teacher so you might know more about this than I do. What I've heard is the government goes child by child in elementary school, and then creates a projection of their future grades through high school. Then schools are graded on whether the children in their system are scoring above or below their expected score.

    The article mentions this briefly, but aren't we looking too much at standardized test scores? By the way, I would recommend reading the book Overachievers by Alexandra Robbins. This whole assessment seems to be a big waste of money, which should be diverted to paying teacher salaries. To make our schools better, we ought to make being a teacher economically reasonable, and eliminate the requirement for a teaching degree. We should instead allow for a degree in the field a person will teach. We should concentrate more on letting someone learn how to apply their knowledge than memorizing things they will not know how to apply and forget before long anyway.
     
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    This is the fact that to obtain an 'average', half fall above, half fall below. There are plenty of ways to deal with underachievers, but only so much can be done with those that fall below. If a teacher is good, the kid is working, the parents help, a child with a 100 IQ can reasonably be expected to achieve a 'C'. A child with 110 a B and those with greater than that A. What NCLB does not address is the quandry of those that fall below 100. (In actuality, forget the testing, etc.)
     
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    just remember this 50% of all doctors finished in the bottom half of their class
     

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