Would You Invest?

[Gadawg73]

No... you and your ilk wish to change it that way so you don't have to be responsible for yourselves.... easier to leech off of people...

And lest we forget that you and many like you completely misinterpret ".. the general welfare of the United States" and you happen to leave those few ending words off, so that you can misrepresent what was written and meant

A real person does not ignore their own needs and does not believe they are the responsibility of someone else

I feel sorry for you that we can no longer return to the 1800s where everyone took care of themselves or died.

Since that time, the US has become the richest and most powerful nation in the history of mankind. To run such an economy, we need a workforce that is educated, in good health, satisfied with their living conditions and has a basic security net.

This is what is known as a middle class. A modern society has an obligation to take care of its people and ensure a basic standard of living is maintained. If it can't, it slips into third world status and is subject to revolution.

No, actually it doesn't. And even if it does that does not translate into "gov't has an obligation to do these things."
There were plenty of alternatives in the late 19th century, which showed the greatest outpouring of charity this country has known. How many hospitals were established? Orphanages? Soup kitchens? Universities? Libraries? All the result of private funding, all helping the poor in one way or another.
We don't see that much anymore because of confiscatory taxation and regulation policies and because gov't has squeezed out private charity.
Nutwinger, don't take this as a post directed at you since you are incapable of understanding it and responding appropriately.

Try and start your own railroad or any business to compete with the monopolies of that day Rabbi.
They would burn your business down and get away with it.
And you wonder why they had all the $ for the PR.

 

[The Rabbi]

I feel sorry for you that we can no longer return to the 1800s where everyone took care of themselves or died.

Since that time, the US has become the richest and most powerful nation in the history of mankind. To run such an economy, we need a workforce that is educated, in good health, satisfied with their living conditions and has a basic security net.

This is what is known as a middle class. A modern society has an obligation to take care of its people and ensure a basic standard of living is maintained. If it can't, it slips into third world status and is subject to revolution.

No, actually it doesn't. And even if it does that does not translate into "gov't has an obligation to do these things."
There were plenty of alternatives in the late 19th century, which showed the greatest outpouring of charity this country has known. How many hospitals were established? Orphanages? Soup kitchens? Universities? Libraries? All the result of private funding, all helping the poor in one way or another.
We don't see that much anymore because of confiscatory taxation and regulation policies and because gov't has squeezed out private charity.
Nutwinger, don't take this as a post directed at you since you are incapable of understanding it and responding appropriately.

Try and start your own railroad or any business to compete with the monopolies of that day Rabbi.
They would burn your business down and get away with it.
And you wonder why they had all the $ for the PR.

First off, your post isn't responsive to anything I wrote.
Second, the "monopolies" of the day actually provided lower prices for thsoe goods and services than people had been paying.
Tough luck being stupid.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

No, actually it doesn't. And even if it does that does not translate into "gov't has an obligation to do these things."
There were plenty of alternatives in the late 19th century, which showed the greatest outpouring of charity this country has known. How many hospitals were established? Orphanages? Soup kitchens? Universities? Libraries? All the result of private funding, all helping the poor in one way or another.
We don't see that much anymore because of confiscatory taxation and regulation policies and because gov't has squeezed out private charity.
Nutwinger, don't take this as a post directed at you since you are incapable of understanding it and responding appropriately.

Try and start your own railroad or any business to compete with the monopolies of that day Rabbi.
They would burn your business down and get away with it.
And you wonder why they had all the $ for the PR.

Tough luck being stupid.

I guess we're gonna have to take-your-word, for that.

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[Conspiracist]

Thank god Rabbi is saving us from this..

The company makes batteries and "intelligent" power systems that are designed for renewable-energy and other projects.

ZBB had received a $1.3 million federal stimulus loan. The company is using the money for a factory renovation that officials say will triple its manufacturing capacity.

The company has about 30 full-time employees. It says the project will enable it to keep nearly a dozen workers on the job, and it hopes to hire about 80 new workers over time.

Batteries are a losing battle when it comes to energy for transportation. 1.3 million cash is much more than I have. It's still a lot of money though politicians throw it around like it's dollar bills.

 

[8537]

I would have liked the stimulus money going to lower taxes that would encourage saving and investing instead of going to companies and municipalities that encourage waste and fraud.
But you're all for waste and fraud, right Nutwinger?

you mean something like setting aside 40% of the stimulus for lowering taxes?