Would the Keystone Pipeline be a great economic asset to the United States? Hardly.

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    Obama had it right.

    According to an independent study conducted by Cornell University Global Labor Institute, the claims of a significant economic boost to the US economy as a result of the pipeline are quite exaggerated. Here is a summary of their findings:


    http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/globallaborinstitute/research/upload/GLI_KeystoneXL_Reportpdf.pdf
     
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    the claims of a significant economic boost to the US economy as a result of the pipeline are quite exaggerated.

    That is funny.! Of course they are. Who the hell do you think spins the news these day?
     
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    Tell that to the critics of Obama on here.
     
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    So, just to be clear, we have a job being planned that will create between 5000 jobs on the low end and 20,000 on the high end and you say skip it because you want more? Want less? Don't care? Don't accept that there's a problem with creating jobs?

    I don't understand your objection.

    Any job like a pipeline job will support 3 others. So we are looking at 15,000 on the low end to 60,000 on the high end.

    Also, more oil coming to market will reduce the cost per gallon for gas. We were paying about $1.80 in 2008 and now we covet the $3.00 level.

    Why would anyone be against any of this? More jobs, lower gas prices and more gas.

    What's the downside?
     
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    Where the hell are you getting these numbers from? Did you even read my OP?
     
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    Ok, I'll pretend Cornell is independent and play along.

    Lets see; The project will create no more than 2,500-4,650. That's an average of over 3000 people with a job, instead of Zero, which is what we got.

    There is strong evidence to suggest that a large portion of the primary material
    input for KXL—steel pipe—will not even be produced in the United States. A
    substantial amount of pipe has already been manufactured in advance of pipeline
    permit issuance. It's called importing. And we will have to pay people to transport the material. ooo, more jobs, which is more that Zero.



    And heaven forbid we get oil from somewhere other than the ME.

    :cuckoo:

    Oh, and those would have been union jobs. So, why do you hate the unions?
     
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    You aren't reading the article. These 3000 some jobs would only be temporary, and gas prices would increase. The environmentalists win this argument.
     
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    So you think the pipline won't need to be maintained after it's built?

    and incase you have not noticed, gas prices have gone up your entire life.
     
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    I'd be ashamed to have posted this article and say, Obama was right..
     
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    You gotta love this. Out of every productive project you could possibly have going, like high speed rail, developing new energy sources or infrastructure spending..the one's conservatives advocate for..is mining old technology. It's a wonderful thing too. Lets put pipeline pumping environmentally destructive substances through environmentally sensitive regions. Makes a great deal of sense. And it's from an industry that is constantly crying wolf to get it's way. Which makes this country do incredibly stupid things, like topple governments and go to war.

    President Obama should tell these folks to go pound sand.
     
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