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Why in the FACE of these SOURCED...
FACTS do people persist in believing there are 50 million "uninsured" when in reality there are less then 8 million?

Why are you that persist in this "50 million uninsured" falsehood too chicken to prove these sources wrong???


Nearly 10 million counted as "uninsured" are NOT citizens:
The Census Bureau: Newsroom: Income & Wealth: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009
Table C. People Without Health Insurance Coverage (Numbers in thousands)
2008 2009
Not a citizen 9,511 9,936

Prove me wrong!!!

14 million people counted as part of the phony 50 million "UNINSURED" are actually covered by Medicaid!

Page 4 of the Blue Cross Report at this web page:http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data, nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.

Finally 18 million when needed to pass the bill were counted as "uninsured" : then when passed Pelosi et.al. NOW call them "free-loaders"!!!
Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!

SO WHY would then spend money on health insurance???

Source for the 18 million figure: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
AGE the annual per capita expenditure
20 $ 1,448 (So why should they pay a $2,000 penalty for not having insurance when they pay out less in real expenses???
40 $ 2,601
65 $10,245

Source for above expenditures:: The Lifetime Distribution of Health Care Costs

So NOW as I said Pelosi calls these people that PAY their own way because they have little expenses under age 34..

" Pelosi, speaking to Audie Cornish of National Public Radio, explained that new taxes were necessary because some (many?) of the uninsured actively choose not to buy health insurance, even though they can afford it.
Pelosi's change in attitude towards the uninsured is a complete about-face from the rhetoric that she and the Democrats used in pushing for the massive legislation in 2009-10. Then, Democrats bombarded Americans with heart-wrenching stories--many of them false, particularly those told by President Barack Obama--about the 30, 40, or 50 million people without health insurance. Those who pointed to research that over 40 percent of the uninsured were "voluntary" were dismissed as heartless corporate shills or racists.
Pelosi Bashes the Uninsured: 'Free Riders' - Nancy Pelosi - Fox Nation
 
Why in the FACE of these SOURCED...
FACTS do people persist in believing there are 50 million "uninsured" when in reality there are less then 8 million?

Why are you that persist in this "50 million uninsured" falsehood too chicken to prove these sources wrong???


Nearly 10 million counted as "uninsured" are NOT citizens:
The Census Bureau: Newsroom: Income & Wealth: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009
Table C. People Without Health Insurance Coverage (Numbers in thousands)
2008 2009
Not a citizen 9,511 9,936

Prove me wrong!!!

14 million people counted as part of the phony 50 million "UNINSURED" are actually covered by Medicaid!

Page 4 of the Blue Cross Report at this web page:http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data, nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.

Finally 18 million when needed to pass the bill were counted as "uninsured" : then when passed Pelosi et.al. NOW call them "free-loaders"!!!
Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!

SO WHY would then spend money on health insurance???

Source for the 18 million figure: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
AGE the annual per capita expenditure
20 $ 1,448 (So why should they pay a $2,000 penalty for not having insurance when they pay out less in real expenses???
40 $ 2,601
65 $10,245

Source for above expenditures:: The Lifetime Distribution of Health Care Costs

So NOW as I said Pelosi calls these people that PAY their own way because they have little expenses under age 34..

" Pelosi, speaking to Audie Cornish of National Public Radio, explained that new taxes were necessary because some (many?) of the uninsured actively choose not to buy health insurance, even though they can afford it.
Pelosi's change in attitude towards the uninsured is a complete about-face from the rhetoric that she and the Democrats used in pushing for the massive legislation in 2009-10. Then, Democrats bombarded Americans with heart-wrenching stories--many of them false, particularly those told by President Barack Obama--about the 30, 40, or 50 million people without health insurance. Those who pointed to research that over 40 percent of the uninsured were "voluntary" were dismissed as heartless corporate shills or racists.
Pelosi Bashes the Uninsured: 'Free Riders' - Nancy Pelosi - Fox Nation

Well first of all your whole argument is rather convoluted and just plain STOOOPID for starters!

For instance you start off trying to quantify uninsured PEOPLE and then morph your own statistics around "legal" and "illegal" citizens when the truth is whether legal or illegal they are all still PEOPLE!

Strike one!

Then you do stupid shit like this....starting a premise dealing with a question of legitimate HEALTH INSURANCE then skewing your numbers to include programs like Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program which were never intented to be forms of reliable long term health insurance in the first place but only emergency relief programs.

Then you conclude with CRAP like this

"Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!"

with no credible link to back it up BECAUSE YOU CAN'T!!!

Quit pulling shit out of your ass and calling it FACT!!!
 
Why in the FACE of these SOURCED...
FACTS do people persist in believing there are 50 million "uninsured" when in reality there are less then 8 million?

Why are you that persist in this "50 million uninsured" falsehood too chicken to prove these sources wrong???


Nearly 10 million counted as "uninsured" are NOT citizens:
The Census Bureau: Newsroom: Income & Wealth: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009
Table C. People Without Health Insurance Coverage (Numbers in thousands)
2008 2009
Not a citizen 9,511 9,936

Prove me wrong!!!

14 million people counted as part of the phony 50 million "UNINSURED" are actually covered by Medicaid!

Page 4 of the Blue Cross Report at this web page:http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data, nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.

Finally 18 million when needed to pass the bill were counted as "uninsured" : then when passed Pelosi et.al. NOW call them "free-loaders"!!!
Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!

SO WHY would then spend money on health insurance???

Source for the 18 million figure: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
AGE the annual per capita expenditure
20 $ 1,448 (So why should they pay a $2,000 penalty for not having insurance when they pay out less in real expenses???
40 $ 2,601
65 $10,245

Source for above expenditures:: The Lifetime Distribution of Health Care Costs

So NOW as I said Pelosi calls these people that PAY their own way because they have little expenses under age 34..

" Pelosi, speaking to Audie Cornish of National Public Radio, explained that new taxes were necessary because some (many?) of the uninsured actively choose not to buy health insurance, even though they can afford it.
Pelosi's change in attitude towards the uninsured is a complete about-face from the rhetoric that she and the Democrats used in pushing for the massive legislation in 2009-10. Then, Democrats bombarded Americans with heart-wrenching stories--many of them false, particularly those told by President Barack Obama--about the 30, 40, or 50 million people without health insurance. Those who pointed to research that over 40 percent of the uninsured were "voluntary" were dismissed as heartless corporate shills or racists.
Pelosi Bashes the Uninsured: 'Free Riders' - Nancy Pelosi - Fox Nation

Well first of all your whole argument is rather convoluted and just plain STOOOPID for starters!

For instance you start off trying to quantify uninsured PEOPLE and then morph your own statistics around "legal" and "illegal" citizens when the truth is whether legal or illegal they are all still PEOPLE!

Strike one!

Then you do stupid shit like this....starting a premise dealing with a question of legitimate HEALTH INSURANCE then skewing your numbers to include programs like Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program which were never intented to be forms of reliable long term health insurance in the first place but only emergency relief programs.

Then you conclude with CRAP like this

"Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!"

with no credible link to back it up BECAUSE YOU CAN'T!!!

Quit pulling shit out of your ass and calling it FACT!!!

READ THE F..king LINKS you dumb sh...t!
The Census Bureau: Newsroom: Income & Wealth: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009

14 million covered by Medicaid LINK!


YOU ARE so fuc...kg stupid!
DID YOU NOT following the web pages that VALIDATE the numbers??

Page 4 of the Blue Cross Report at this web page:http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data, nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.

Finally READ this link..

Source for the 18 million figure: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

AGE the annual per capita expenditure
20 $ 1,448 (So why should they pay a $2,000 penalty for not having insurance when they pay out less in real expenses???
40 $ 2,601
65 $10,245

Source for above expenditures:: The Lifetime Distribution of Health Care Costs
 
YOU idiots that DON"T read have no excuse for being so STUPID..
I post links with almost every FACT that I submit!
 
Why in the FACE of these SOURCED...
FACTS do people persist in believing there are 50 million "uninsured" when in reality there are less then 8 million?

Why are you that persist in this "50 million uninsured" falsehood too chicken to prove these sources wrong???


Nearly 10 million counted as "uninsured" are NOT citizens:
The Census Bureau: Newsroom: Income & Wealth: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009
Table C. People Without Health Insurance Coverage (Numbers in thousands)
2008 2009
Not a citizen 9,511 9,936

Prove me wrong!!!

14 million people counted as part of the phony 50 million "UNINSURED" are actually covered by Medicaid!

Page 4 of the Blue Cross Report at this web page:http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data, nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.

Finally 18 million when needed to pass the bill were counted as "uninsured" : then when passed Pelosi et.al. NOW call them "free-loaders"!!!
Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!

SO WHY would then spend money on health insurance???

Source for the 18 million figure: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
AGE the annual per capita expenditure
20 $ 1,448 (So why should they pay a $2,000 penalty for not having insurance when they pay out less in real expenses???
40 $ 2,601
65 $10,245

Source for above expenditures:: The Lifetime Distribution of Health Care Costs

So NOW as I said Pelosi calls these people that PAY their own way because they have little expenses under age 34..

" Pelosi, speaking to Audie Cornish of National Public Radio, explained that new taxes were necessary because some (many?) of the uninsured actively choose not to buy health insurance, even though they can afford it.
Pelosi's change in attitude towards the uninsured is a complete about-face from the rhetoric that she and the Democrats used in pushing for the massive legislation in 2009-10. Then, Democrats bombarded Americans with heart-wrenching stories--many of them false, particularly those told by President Barack Obama--about the 30, 40, or 50 million people without health insurance. Those who pointed to research that over 40 percent of the uninsured were "voluntary" were dismissed as heartless corporate shills or racists.
Pelosi Bashes the Uninsured: 'Free Riders' - Nancy Pelosi - Fox Nation

Well first of all your whole argument is rather convoluted and just plain STOOOPID for starters!

For instance you start off trying to quantify uninsured PEOPLE and then morph your own statistics around "legal" and "illegal" citizens when the truth is whether legal or illegal they are all still PEOPLE!

Strike one!

Then you do stupid shit like this....starting a premise dealing with a question of legitimate HEALTH INSURANCE then skewing your numbers to include programs like Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program which were never intented to be forms of reliable long term health insurance in the first place but only emergency relief programs.

Then you conclude with CRAP like this

"Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!"

with no credible link to back it up BECAUSE YOU CAN'T!!!

Quit pulling shit out of your ass and calling it FACT!!!

READ THE F..king LINKS you dumb sh...t!
The Census Bureau: Newsroom: Income & Wealth: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009

14 million covered by Medicaid LINK!


YOU ARE so fuc...kg stupid!
DID YOU NOT following the web pages that VALIDATE the numbers??

Page 4 of the Blue Cross Report at this web page:http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data, nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.

Finally READ this link..

Source for the 18 million figure: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

AGE the annual per capita expenditure
20 $ 1,448 (So why should they pay a $2,000 penalty for not having insurance when they pay out less in real expenses???
40 $ 2,601
65 $10,245

Source for above expenditures:: The Lifetime Distribution of Health Care Costs

I read your supid links.

They're BUNK and don't support the position you are trying so hard to put out there.

You're doing a good job of making a fucking joke of yourself though.

Keep up the good work!!!
 
Why in the FACE of these SOURCED...
FACTS do people persist in believing there are 50 million "uninsured" when in reality there are less then 8 million?

Why are you that persist in this "50 million uninsured" falsehood too chicken to prove these sources wrong???


Nearly 10 million counted as "uninsured" are NOT citizens:
The Census Bureau: Newsroom: Income & Wealth: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009
Table C. People Without Health Insurance Coverage (Numbers in thousands)
2008 2009
Not a citizen 9,511 9,936

Prove me wrong!!!

14 million people counted as part of the phony 50 million "UNINSURED" are actually covered by Medicaid!

Page 4 of the Blue Cross Report at this web page:http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data, nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.

Finally 18 million when needed to pass the bill were counted as "uninsured" : then when passed Pelosi et.al. NOW call them "free-loaders"!!!
Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!

SO WHY would then spend money on health insurance???

Source for the 18 million figure: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
AGE the annual per capita expenditure
20 $ 1,448 (So why should they pay a $2,000 penalty for not having insurance when they pay out less in real expenses???
40 $ 2,601
65 $10,245

Source for above expenditures:: The Lifetime Distribution of Health Care Costs

So NOW as I said Pelosi calls these people that PAY their own way because they have little expenses under age 34..

" Pelosi, speaking to Audie Cornish of National Public Radio, explained that new taxes were necessary because some (many?) of the uninsured actively choose not to buy health insurance, even though they can afford it.
Pelosi's change in attitude towards the uninsured is a complete about-face from the rhetoric that she and the Democrats used in pushing for the massive legislation in 2009-10. Then, Democrats bombarded Americans with heart-wrenching stories--many of them false, particularly those told by President Barack Obama--about the 30, 40, or 50 million people without health insurance. Those who pointed to research that over 40 percent of the uninsured were "voluntary" were dismissed as heartless corporate shills or racists.
Pelosi Bashes the Uninsured: 'Free Riders' - Nancy Pelosi - Fox Nation

Well first of all your whole argument is rather convoluted and just plain STOOOPID for starters!

For instance you start off trying to quantify uninsured PEOPLE and then morph your own statistics around "legal" and "illegal" citizens when the truth is whether legal or illegal they are all still PEOPLE!

Strike one!

Then you do stupid shit like this....starting a premise dealing with a question of legitimate HEALTH INSURANCE then skewing your numbers to include programs like Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program which were never intented to be forms of reliable long term health insurance in the first place but only emergency relief programs.

Then you conclude with CRAP like this

"Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!"

with no credible link to back it up BECAUSE YOU CAN'T!!!

Quit pulling shit out of your ass and calling it FACT!!!

Hey fuckwit, since when did America and Americans agree to take on the health needs of millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS THAT HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE?!?!?!?
 
Why in the FACE of these SOURCED...
FACTS do people persist in believing there are 50 million "uninsured" when in reality there are less then 8 million?

Why are you that persist in this "50 million uninsured" falsehood too chicken to prove these sources wrong???


Nearly 10 million counted as "uninsured" are NOT citizens:
The Census Bureau: Newsroom: Income & Wealth: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009
Table C. People Without Health Insurance Coverage (Numbers in thousands)
2008 2009
Not a citizen 9,511 9,936

Prove me wrong!!!

14 million people counted as part of the phony 50 million "UNINSURED" are actually covered by Medicaid!

Page 4 of the Blue Cross Report at this web page:http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data, nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.

Finally 18 million when needed to pass the bill were counted as "uninsured" : then when passed Pelosi et.al. NOW call them "free-loaders"!!!
Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!

SO WHY would then spend money on health insurance???

Source for the 18 million figure: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
AGE the annual per capita expenditure
20 $ 1,448 (So why should they pay a $2,000 penalty for not having insurance when they pay out less in real expenses???
40 $ 2,601
65 $10,245

Source for above expenditures:: The Lifetime Distribution of Health Care Costs

So NOW as I said Pelosi calls these people that PAY their own way because they have little expenses under age 34..

" Pelosi, speaking to Audie Cornish of National Public Radio, explained that new taxes were necessary because some (many?) of the uninsured actively choose not to buy health insurance, even though they can afford it.
Pelosi's change in attitude towards the uninsured is a complete about-face from the rhetoric that she and the Democrats used in pushing for the massive legislation in 2009-10. Then, Democrats bombarded Americans with heart-wrenching stories--many of them false, particularly those told by President Barack Obama--about the 30, 40, or 50 million people without health insurance. Those who pointed to research that over 40 percent of the uninsured were "voluntary" were dismissed as heartless corporate shills or racists.
Pelosi Bashes the Uninsured: 'Free Riders' - Nancy Pelosi - Fox Nation

Well first of all your whole argument is rather convoluted and just plain STOOOPID for starters!

For instance you start off trying to quantify uninsured PEOPLE and then morph your own statistics around "legal" and "illegal" citizens when the truth is whether legal or illegal they are all still PEOPLE!

Strike one!

Then you do stupid shit like this....starting a premise dealing with a question of legitimate HEALTH INSURANCE then skewing your numbers to include programs like Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program which were never intented to be forms of reliable long term health insurance in the first place but only emergency relief programs.

Then you conclude with CRAP like this

"Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
As a result of the FACT that these "uninsured" under 34 generally pay $1,448 in OUT of pocket health expenses per year!"

with no credible link to back it up BECAUSE YOU CAN'T!!!

Quit pulling shit out of your ass and calling it FACT!!!
I haven't read the op but know it deals with insurance and obamatax, no amount of facts will change your mind,m the only thing left is just experience how obamatax will take care of you. It's unsustainable but you will not know that until you have to deal with it first hand.
 
So in the US if an a person here illegally shows up at the ER we should let them die?

Of course not you dumb f..k!
But recognize that the idiotic legislation was PASSED on FaLSE pretenses!
Many of the YES votes IF they KNEW there were only 8 million that really need health insurance coverage AND they were honestly interested in doing so..
WHY not tax the lawyers like they taxed the TANNING SALONS?
Tax the $100 billion in lawyers fees most from health care lawsuits that 90% of doctors
ACKNOWLEDGE that they run duplicate tests just so they won't be sued!
They refer patients that don't need to specialist .. so they won't be sued!

YOU realize over $600 billion a year in duplicate tests, referrals etc. ALL out of fear of lawsuits!
So taking that $10 billion from lawyers and TAXING hospitals on their "uncompensated"
services that right now they mark up sometimes 6,000% so they cover seeing that illegal alien who doesn't pay! They mark that up and send to Medicare/insurance companies
AND then you complain about high cost of insurance!
DUH!!! Tax the hospitals AND require if they see an uninsured patient, THEY Must
A) if patient NOT registered with the "Uninsured Health Insurance Company" do so!
B) All claims for services go to UHIC!
C) UHIC will audit then hospitals claims to Medicare/insurance companies to make
certain that "padding and passing " on of 6,000% markups isn't done!
WATCH how quickly health care costs plummet!
Watch how quickly insurance premiums drop!
AND all the less then 8 million truly uninsured get covered including your illegal alien who is then deported for being here ILLEGALLY!!!!!!
 
You seem like an angry young man, kid.

So in the US if an a person here illegally shows up at the ER we should let them die?

Of course not you dumb f..k!

My work is done here...

But recognize that the idiotic legislation was PASSED on FaLSE pretenses!
Many of the YES votes IF they KNEW there were only 8 million that really need health insurance coverage

Wait what? You just agreed that we won't be letting people here illegally die at the ER. In other words, you just agreed that people here illegally deserve some level of health insurance coverage.
 
You seem like an angry young man, kid.

So in the US if an a person here illegally shows up at the ER we should let them die?

Of course not you dumb f..k!

My work is done here...

But recognize that the idiotic legislation was PASSED on FaLSE pretenses!
Many of the YES votes IF they KNEW there were only 8 million that really need health insurance coverage

Wait what? You just agreed that we won't be letting people here illegally die at the ER. In other words, you just agreed that people here illegally deserve some level of health insurance coverage.

Stabilize them and ship them back to their own damned country.

Deduct the costs of the hospital and deportation from the foreign aid we give them.
 

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