CDZ Would Police Dogs be an effective means to neutralize school shooters?

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    I'm with you there.
     
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    Well, I respect that you're entitled to feel that way. For my part, well, I don't value a canine's life nearly as much as I do a person's life. On a species level, I might be of a different mind, but obviously that consideration isn't in play for the situation under discussion; no last dog of a given species or subspecies is going to be trained, much less deployed, to parry a shooter.
     
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    As goes the dogs and the armed teachers I'm reminded of an axiom that I have found to be universally true: The better of two bad ideas is still a bad idea.
     
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    I was just thinking this in bigger schools maybe 4 or 5 smaller schools a couple get to know the kids and more likely attack anyone trying to do harm or trained by whistle commands.
     
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    Can not see how it would hurt! Likely cut down on drugs in school too!
     
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    I see the use of trained dogs as one of several options to reduce the threat of a shooter in a school. I never said at any point that trained dogs are the end all solution. Patrol officers with or without trained dogs, armed staff, surveillance cameras and in the future min-drones, robots etc. could all be school protection options.

    The first step is of course removing the gun-free zone designation and the second is taking steps at every school to reduce the threat, whatever is most practical to implement at that school. What works for a school of three hundred kids might not work as well for a school with three thousand kids. Like I've said there is no one stop solution and there is no way, no matter how much you spend to completely eliminate the threat. But we can do a lot better than we have done up until this point which is nothing.
     
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    Only if the bad guys were aware of it, and a person willing to shoot dozens of their own classmates may not have a soft spot for a dog either.
     
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    Well, I think the deterrent of large trained dogs wouldn't be necessarily having a soft spot for them but rather the prospect of being mauled if the shooter happens to miss.
     
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    Drug detection is certainly a good supplemental use to which the dogs may be put seeing as they'd be there.
     
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    You do understand that many drug detection dogs are NOT used for taking down armed suspects. There are multi-purpose dogs, but not all of them can do it all.
     
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