Would less abortions mean more crime?

[BBCAmerica]

In the book Freakonomics there was a chapter on this subject. In part they said that here in the US in the 1990's crime dropped dramatically. Over in another country (I forget where) crime had skyrocketed. Here in the US you had mayors and politicians telling all kinds of different approaches they took or fighting crime. The book said that either all their remedies or none did. Over in this other country there were all kinds reasons why crime had took a dramatic upward turn. The the book goes into all these different reasons and analyzes them all. But the one constant correlation was abortion. Around the same time in the 1970's, America made abortions legal white this other country outlawed them. Do you think this is just a coinky-dink? Not sayint they are right or wrong, just asking opinions.

 

[High_Gravity]

Well more people would mean more crime no?

 

[Katzndogz]

The US in the 1990s had a dramatic drop in crime. That is a drop compared to the 1980s. Not compared to other years. Why? What happened in the 1980s that caused a dramatic spike in violent crime? Abortions? Welfare state? Actually no. The 1980s saw a nationwide war between the Crips and the Bloods. 1987-1988 was the height of the war where the two gangs killed each other off and anyone who got in their way. Perhaps we can call it post birth abortion.

The ready availability of abortion increases violent crime because it devalues life itself. Once life becomes valueless, it doesn't stop at the unborn. It continues to every level. Rather than look at the statistics for crime, look at the incidents of crimes specifically against children. Not only are crimes against children growing, but they are met with a corresponding increasing disinterest.

In 1951 the nation was transfixed by Jessica McCllure who was stuck in a well for 58 hours. Contrast that to 2012 when Jessica Ridgeway's body was found in pieces in Colorado. Ho hum. Hope they catch him, someday.

What's the difference? The difference is that in 1951 we rejected abortion as a solution to personal problems and in 2012, killing children is more or less acceptable.

 

[High_Gravity]

The US in the 1990s had a dramatic drop in crime. That is a drop compared to the 1980s. Not compared to other years. Why? What happened in the 1980s that caused a dramatic spike in violent crime? Abortions? Welfare state? Actually no. The 1980s saw a nationwide war between the Crips and the Bloods. 1987-1988 was the height of the war where the two gangs killed each other off and anyone who got in their way. Perhaps we can call it post birth abortion.

The ready availability of abortion increases violent crime because it devalues life itself. Once life becomes valueless, it doesn't stop at the unborn. It continues to every level. Rather than look at the statistics for crime, look at the incidents of crimes specifically against children. Not only are crimes against children growing, but they are met with a corresponding increasing disinterest.

In 1951 the nation was transfixed by Jessica McCllure who was stuck in a well for 58 hours. Contrast that to 2012 when Jessica Ridgeway's body was found in pieces in Colorado. Ho hum. Hope they catch him, someday.

What's the difference? The difference is that in 1951 we rejected abortion as a solution to personal problems and in 2012, killing children is more or less acceptable.

It wasn't just the Bloods and Crips banging in the 80s, that was also the height of the Cocaine wars in Miami between the Colombians and Cubans.

 

[Katzndogz]

The US in the 1990s had a dramatic drop in crime. That is a drop compared to the 1980s. Not compared to other years. Why? What happened in the 1980s that caused a dramatic spike in violent crime? Abortions? Welfare state? Actually no. The 1980s saw a nationwide war between the Crips and the Bloods. 1987-1988 was the height of the war where the two gangs killed each other off and anyone who got in their way. Perhaps we can call it post birth abortion.

The ready availability of abortion increases violent crime because it devalues life itself. Once life becomes valueless, it doesn't stop at the unborn. It continues to every level. Rather than look at the statistics for crime, look at the incidents of crimes specifically against children. Not only are crimes against children growing, but they are met with a corresponding increasing disinterest.

In 1951 the nation was transfixed by Jessica McCllure who was stuck in a well for 58 hours. Contrast that to 2012 when Jessica Ridgeway's body was found in pieces in Colorado. Ho hum. Hope they catch him, someday.

What's the difference? The difference is that in 1951 we rejected abortion as a solution to personal problems and in 2012, killing children is more or less acceptable.

It wasn't just the Bloods and Crips banging in the 80s, that was also the height of the Cocaine wars in Miami between the Colombians and Cubans.

Oh yes, that too. I forgot about that. Probably because I'm in Los Angeles and we had a "murder report" every morning on the news.

Saying that crime is down is meaningless. Compared to what? Compared to when?

In the Las Vegas of the 50s and 60s there was a lot of crime. A lot of violence as the organized crime gangs whacked one another. But, there was almost no random street crime at all.