Worst Economic Growth Post Recession

[ralfy]

What we're seeing is the result of more than three decades of Reaganomics.

LOL!!!
Reaganomics ended when Bush I reneged on his no new taxes pledge.
What we're seeing is the result of 6 years of Obanomics. That is crony capitalism, higher taxes, high levels of regulation, and Treasury raids on businesses. No one is hiring in this environment. No one is investing in this environment. No one is taking chances because just having this government around is a chance.

Tax cuts continued with Clinton, Bush II, and Obama.

Crony capitalism is the result of free market capitalism, as the financial elite take over and the government starts working for them. That's why Washington works for Wall Street. That's why the Fed is a private consortium of commercial banks.

There was no increased regulation but the complete opposite. That's why notional values of unregulated derivatives ballooned.

Hiring and investing are down because the country has gone through four decades of incessant consumer spending and debt across the board. Check the chart in this article for details:

Krugman and the pied pipers of debt

 

[The Rabbi]

What we're seeing is the result of more than three decades of Reaganomics.

LOL!!!
Reaganomics ended when Bush I reneged on his no new taxes pledge.
What we're seeing is the result of 6 years of Obanomics. That is crony capitalism, higher taxes, high levels of regulation, and Treasury raids on businesses. No one is hiring in this environment. No one is investing in this environment. No one is taking chances because just having this government around is a chance.

Tax cuts continued with Clinton, Bush II, and Obama.

Crony capitalism is the result of free market capitalism, as the financial elite take over and the government starts working for them. That's why Washington works for Wall Street. That's why the Fed is a private consortium of commercial banks.

There was no increased regulation but the complete opposite. That's why notional values of unregulated derivatives ballooned.

Hiring and investing are down because the country has gone through four decades of incessant consumer spending and debt across the board. Check the chart in this article for details:

Krugman and the pied pipers of debt

blahblahblah. S0n, you dont have the chops for this debate.
Crony capitalism is the result of socialism, not the opposite. Big corporations love it. The health insurance companies were among the most enthusiastic supporters of ACA.
Incessant consumer spending should produce a prosperous economy, right? Yet you say its the opposite.

 

[ralfy]

What we're seeing is the result of more than three decades of Reaganomics.

LOL!!!
Reaganomics ended when Bush I reneged on his no new taxes pledge.
What we're seeing is the result of 6 years of Obanomics. That is crony capitalism, higher taxes, high levels of regulation, and Treasury raids on businesses. No one is hiring in this environment. No one is investing in this environment. No one is taking chances because just having this government around is a chance.

Tax cuts continued with Clinton, Bush II, and Obama.

Crony capitalism is the result of free market capitalism, as the financial elite take over and the government starts working for them. That's why Washington works for Wall Street. That's why the Fed is a private consortium of commercial banks.

There was no increased regulation but the complete opposite. That's why notional values of unregulated derivatives ballooned.

Hiring and investing are down because the country has gone through four decades of incessant consumer spending and debt across the board. Check the chart in this article for details:

Krugman and the pied pipers of debt

blahblahblah. S0n, you dont have the chops for this debate.
Crony capitalism is the result of socialism, not the opposite. Big corporations love it. The health insurance companies were among the most enthusiastic supporters of ACA.
Incessant consumer spending should produce a prosperous economy, right? Yet you say its the opposite.

Crony capitalism is not the result of socialism but what happens when socialism cannot take place. That's why big corporations favor it.

The U.S. has had several decades of trade deficits and has to borrow heavily from other countries to continue spending. That's why consumer spending, among others, does not actually lead to prosperity. The government claims otherwise only because it's counted as part of GDP.

 

[The Rabbi]

What we're seeing is the result of more than three decades of Reaganomics.

LOL!!!
Reaganomics ended when Bush I reneged on his no new taxes pledge.
What we're seeing is the result of 6 years of Obanomics. That is crony capitalism, higher taxes, high levels of regulation, and Treasury raids on businesses. No one is hiring in this environment. No one is investing in this environment. No one is taking chances because just having this government around is a chance.

Tax cuts continued with Clinton, Bush II, and Obama.

Crony capitalism is the result of free market capitalism, as the financial elite take over and the government starts working for them. That's why Washington works for Wall Street. That's why the Fed is a private consortium of commercial banks.

There was no increased regulation but the complete opposite. That's why notional values of unregulated derivatives ballooned.

Hiring and investing are down because the country has gone through four decades of incessant consumer spending and debt across the board. Check the chart in this article for details:

Krugman and the pied pipers of debt

blahblahblah. S0n, you dont have the chops for this debate.
Crony capitalism is the result of socialism, not the opposite. Big corporations love it. The health insurance companies were among the most enthusiastic supporters of ACA.
Incessant consumer spending should produce a prosperous economy, right? Yet you say its the opposite.

Crony capitalism is not the result of socialism but what happens when socialism cannot take place. That's why big corporations favor it.

The U.S. has had several decades of trade deficits and has to borrow heavily from other countries to continue spending. That's why consumer spending, among others, does not actually lead to prosperity. The government claims otherwise only because it's counted as part of GDP.

OK, you're talking out of your ass. I couldnt begin to sort out the misconceptions you have and the misinformation.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ralphie is chopping up The Rabbi.

 

[ralfy]

What we're seeing is the result of more than three decades of Reaganomics.

LOL!!!
Reaganomics ended when Bush I reneged on his no new taxes pledge.
What we're seeing is the result of 6 years of Obanomics. That is crony capitalism, higher taxes, high levels of regulation, and Treasury raids on businesses. No one is hiring in this environment. No one is investing in this environment. No one is taking chances because just having this government around is a chance.

Tax cuts continued with Clinton, Bush II, and Obama.

Crony capitalism is the result of free market capitalism, as the financial elite take over and the government starts working for them. That's why Washington works for Wall Street. That's why the Fed is a private consortium of commercial banks.

There was no increased regulation but the complete opposite. That's why notional values of unregulated derivatives ballooned.

Hiring and investing are down because the country has gone through four decades of incessant consumer spending and debt across the board. Check the chart in this article for details:

Krugman and the pied pipers of debt

blahblahblah. S0n, you dont have the chops for this debate.
Crony capitalism is the result of socialism, not the opposite. Big corporations love it. The health insurance companies were among the most enthusiastic supporters of ACA.
Incessant consumer spending should produce a prosperous economy, right? Yet you say its the opposite.

Crony capitalism is not the result of socialism but what happens when socialism cannot take place. That's why big corporations favor it.

The U.S. has had several decades of trade deficits and has to borrow heavily from other countries to continue spending. That's why consumer spending, among others, does not actually lead to prosperity. The government claims otherwise only because it's counted as part of GDP.

OK, you're talking out of your ass. I couldnt begin to sort out the misconceptions you have and the misinformation.

Feel free to counter my arguments any time.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Feel free to counter my arguments any time.

The dude conflates socialism and fascism as the same thing, which, of course, they are not.

 

[kiwiman127]

US economic growth slows to 2.2 in fourth quarter - Yahoo News

With 2.2% growth no one is making money except the very wealthy. Obama's GDP growth is far worse than Bush's. His deficits are far bigger. Obama's economic policies are nothing but misery and death.

As I have noted in the past, it is certainly a trend.
It’s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal
It s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal - Real Time Economics - WSJ
Look at the 1st chart below which confirms the Wall Street Journal article. Go ahead, compare recoveries based on their depth. There is no question that each recession has taken longer to recover, no matter how deep.

Looking at the other G7 Nations, the US isn't looking so bad.
ERC Chart of the Week – G7 Post Recession Recovery
Below is the chart from the article and for Rabbi, the linked article explains the graph in detail.
ERC Chart of the Week - G7 Post Recession Recovery by Pure Research GroupPure Research Group

The last recession and recovery is pretty hard to politicize when incorporating reality, but that's what ideolgues do, from both sides of the aisle.

 

[Mac1958]

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Economists sometimes refer to "U-shaped" recoveries and "V-shaped" recoveries.

This one has more resembled a bathtub-shaped recovery.

Assuming, that is, that we actually do get strong, broad-based growth at some point.

.

 

[usmcstinger]

The Labor Force Participation Rate is at 62.9% that has not been this low since 1977.
POTUS used the flawed Keynesian Economic Theory that has never worked.

 

[The Rabbi]

View attachment 37339

US economic growth slows to 2.2 in fourth quarter - Yahoo News

With 2.2% growth no one is making money except the very wealthy. Obama's GDP growth is far worse than Bush's. His deficits are far bigger. Obama's economic policies are nothing but misery and death.

As I have noted in the past, it is certainly a trend.
It’s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal
It s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal - Real Time Economics - WSJ
Look at the 1st chart below which confirms the Wall Street Journal article. Go ahead, compare recoveries based on their depth. There is no question that each recession has taken longer to recover, no matter how deep.

Looking at the other G7 Nations, the US isn't looking so bad.
ERC Chart of the Week – G7 Post Recession Recovery
Below is the chart from the article and for Rabbi, the linked article explains the graph in detail.
ERC Chart of the Week - G7 Post Recession Recovery by Pure Research GroupPure Research Group

The last recession and recovery is pretty hard to politicize when incorporating reality, but that's what ideolgues do, from both sides of the aisle. View attachment 37340

So your position is recoveries are like the weather--everyone talks about it but no one can do much?
Are you truly this stupid? Dont answer, that was rhetorical.
Every time the gov't tries to "solve" a recession it makes the recovery worse. Every time. This time Obama has pumped trillions trying to end the recession. And of course the recovery is the weakest on record too.
Next time let's try not doing anything.

 

[The Rabbi]

.

Economists sometimes refer to "U-shaped" recoveries and "V-shaped" recoveries.

This one has more resembled a bathtub-shaped recovery.

Assuming, that is, that we actually do get strong, broad-based growth at some point.

.

This one looks like the EKG of a patient who died of from a heart attack.

 

[edthecynic]

The Labor Force Participation Rate is at 62.9% that has not been this low since 1977.

The LPR is low because of low birth rates and high Boomer retirement rates and as such without those demographic factors removed is a completely worthless economic indicator. But the Right has nothing else. If a Republican is ever elected president the Right will suddenly remove those factors when using the declining for the GOP president LPR.

 

[kiwiman127]

View attachment 37339

US economic growth slows to 2.2 in fourth quarter - Yahoo News

With 2.2% growth no one is making money except the very wealthy. Obama's GDP growth is far worse than Bush's. His deficits are far bigger. Obama's economic policies are nothing but misery and death.

As I have noted in the past, it is certainly a trend.
It’s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal
It s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal - Real Time Economics - WSJ
Look at the 1st chart below which confirms the Wall Street Journal article. Go ahead, compare recoveries based on their depth. There is no question that each recession has taken longer to recover, no matter how deep.

Looking at the other G7 Nations, the US isn't looking so bad.
ERC Chart of the Week – G7 Post Recession Recovery
Below is the chart from the article and for Rabbi, the linked article explains the graph in detail.
ERC Chart of the Week - G7 Post Recession Recovery by Pure Research GroupPure Research Group

The last recession and recovery is pretty hard to politicize when incorporating reality, but that's what ideolgues do, from both sides of the aisle. View attachment 37340

So your position is recoveries are like the weather--everyone talks about it but no one can do much?
Are you truly this stupid? Dont answer, that was rhetorical.
Every time the gov't tries to "solve" a recession it makes the recovery worse. Every time. This time Obama has pumped trillions trying to end the recession. And of course the recovery is the weakest on record too.
Next time let's try not doing anything.

So instead discussing what I posted, which basically repeated economic historic facts, you make up shit and put words in my mouth, which is typical and a well-known Rabbi tactic.
Care to point out to me where my position was "recoveries are like the weather--everyone talks about it but no one can do much" in my post?
Let me point out a couple things to you Rabbi. Comparing our recovery to the other G7's countries the US recovery doesn't look all that terrible. Most of those countries used austerity didn't they? And, care dispute that each recession has taken longer to
recover?
Both points of mine, with the usage of facts, basically show that your OP is nothing but political hackery.
Now go away.

 

[The Rabbi]

View attachment 37339

US economic growth slows to 2.2 in fourth quarter - Yahoo News

With 2.2% growth no one is making money except the very wealthy. Obama's GDP growth is far worse than Bush's. His deficits are far bigger. Obama's economic policies are nothing but misery and death.

As I have noted in the past, it is certainly a trend.
It’s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal
It s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal - Real Time Economics - WSJ
Look at the 1st chart below which confirms the Wall Street Journal article. Go ahead, compare recoveries based on their depth. There is no question that each recession has taken longer to recover, no matter how deep.

Looking at the other G7 Nations, the US isn't looking so bad.
ERC Chart of the Week – G7 Post Recession Recovery
Below is the chart from the article and for Rabbi, the linked article explains the graph in detail.
ERC Chart of the Week - G7 Post Recession Recovery by Pure Research GroupPure Research Group

The last recession and recovery is pretty hard to politicize when incorporating reality, but that's what ideolgues do, from both sides of the aisle. View attachment 37340

So your position is recoveries are like the weather--everyone talks about it but no one can do much?
Are you truly this stupid? Dont answer, that was rhetorical.
Every time the gov't tries to "solve" a recession it makes the recovery worse. Every time. This time Obama has pumped trillions trying to end the recession. And of course the recovery is the weakest on record too.
Next time let's try not doing anything.

So instead discussing what I posted, which basically repeated economic historic facts, you make up shit and put words in my mouth, which is typical and a well-known Rabbi tactic.
Care to point out to me where my position was "recoveries are like the weather--everyone talks about it but no one can do much" in my post?
Let me point out a couple things to you Rabbi. Comparing our recovery to the other G7's countries the US recovery doesn't look all that terrible. Most of those countries used austerity didn't they? And, care dispute that each recession has taken longer to
recover?
Both points of mine, with the usage of facts, basically show that your OP is nothing but political hackery.
Now go away.

As usual you miss the entire point.
Yes, compared with the GDP of Haiti our growth looks pretty good.

 

[kiwiman127]

View attachment 37339

US economic growth slows to 2.2 in fourth quarter - Yahoo News

With 2.2% growth no one is making money except the very wealthy. Obama's GDP growth is far worse than Bush's. His deficits are far bigger. Obama's economic policies are nothing but misery and death.

As I have noted in the past, it is certainly a trend.
It’s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal
It s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal - Real Time Economics - WSJ
Look at the 1st chart below which confirms the Wall Street Journal article. Go ahead, compare recoveries based on their depth. There is no question that each recession has taken longer to recover, no matter how deep.

Looking at the other G7 Nations, the US isn't looking so bad.
ERC Chart of the Week – G7 Post Recession Recovery
Below is the chart from the article and for Rabbi, the linked article explains the graph in detail.
ERC Chart of the Week - G7 Post Recession Recovery by Pure Research GroupPure Research Group

The last recession and recovery is pretty hard to politicize when incorporating reality, but that's what ideolgues do, from both sides of the aisle. View attachment 37340

So your position is recoveries are like the weather--everyone talks about it but no one can do much?
Are you truly this stupid? Dont answer, that was rhetorical.
Every time the gov't tries to "solve" a recession it makes the recovery worse. Every time. This time Obama has pumped trillions trying to end the recession. And of course the recovery is the weakest on record too.
Next time let's try not doing anything.

So instead discussing what I posted, which basically repeated economic historic facts, you make up shit and put words in my mouth, which is typical and a well-known Rabbi tactic.
Care to point out to me where my position was "recoveries are like the weather--everyone talks about it but no one can do much" in my post?
Let me point out a couple things to you Rabbi. Comparing our recovery to the other G7's countries the US recovery doesn't look all that terrible. Most of those countries used austerity didn't they? And, care dispute that each recession has taken longer to
recover?
Both points of mine, with the usage of facts, basically show that your OP is nothing but political hackery.
Now go away.

As usual you miss the entire point.
Yes, compared with the GDP of Haiti our growth looks pretty good.

Rabbi, you need to get out more.
Haiti? I just showed you how the US compared to the other six members of the G7. Of all advanced economies in the world, the US had one of the better recoveries.
The sad fact is that in the US, only a few have enjoyed the recovery financially. Some states are recovering faster than other state. In Minny, we have the third best unemployment rate or somewhere around there and there has been quite a bit of speculation of significant wage growth jump because the talent pool is drying up.
Do I thank Obama? No. That trillion dollar investment into the economy was not managed well at all. Do I thank the GOP? No, political gamesmanship was more important than putting the country first.

 

[The Rabbi]

View attachment 37339

US economic growth slows to 2.2 in fourth quarter - Yahoo News

With 2.2% growth no one is making money except the very wealthy. Obama's GDP growth is far worse than Bush's. His deficits are far bigger. Obama's economic policies are nothing but misery and death.

As I have noted in the past, it is certainly a trend.
It’s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal
It s Taking Longer After Each Recession To Get Back to Normal - Real Time Economics - WSJ
Look at the 1st chart below which confirms the Wall Street Journal article. Go ahead, compare recoveries based on their depth. There is no question that each recession has taken longer to recover, no matter how deep.

Looking at the other G7 Nations, the US isn't looking so bad.
ERC Chart of the Week – G7 Post Recession Recovery
Below is the chart from the article and for Rabbi, the linked article explains the graph in detail.
ERC Chart of the Week - G7 Post Recession Recovery by Pure Research GroupPure Research Group

The last recession and recovery is pretty hard to politicize when incorporating reality, but that's what ideolgues do, from both sides of the aisle. View attachment 37340

So your position is recoveries are like the weather--everyone talks about it but no one can do much?
Are you truly this stupid? Dont answer, that was rhetorical.
Every time the gov't tries to "solve" a recession it makes the recovery worse. Every time. This time Obama has pumped trillions trying to end the recession. And of course the recovery is the weakest on record too.
Next time let's try not doing anything.

So instead discussing what I posted, which basically repeated economic historic facts, you make up shit and put words in my mouth, which is typical and a well-known Rabbi tactic.
Care to point out to me where my position was "recoveries are like the weather--everyone talks about it but no one can do much" in my post?
Let me point out a couple things to you Rabbi. Comparing our recovery to the other G7's countries the US recovery doesn't look all that terrible. Most of those countries used austerity didn't they? And, care dispute that each recession has taken longer to
recover?
Both points of mine, with the usage of facts, basically show that your OP is nothing but political hackery.
Now go away.

As usual you miss the entire point.
Yes, compared with the GDP of Haiti our growth looks pretty good.

Rabbi, you need to get out more.
Haiti? I just showed you how the US compared to the other six members of the G7. Of all advanced economies in the world, the US had one of the better recoveries.
The sad fact is that in the US, only a few have enjoyed the recovery financially. Some states are recovering faster than other state. In Minny, we have the third best unemployment rate or somewhere around there and there has been quite a bit of speculation of significant wage growth jump because the talent pool is drying up.
Do I thank Obama? No. That trillion dollar investment into the economy was not managed well at all. Do I thank the GOP? No, political gamesmanship was more important than putting the country first.

Yes compared to the GDP of Francophone countries like Mali we're kicking ass!
You are such a dufus it isnt really funny. Sad. pathetic. But not funny

 

[kiwiman127]

Again, I provide linked facts, you as usual, provide zero but your opinion. You are pathetic.
I can see where this is going to lead. There is no sense arguing with a butthead.

 

[The Rabbi]

Again, I provide linked facts, you as usual, provide zero but your opinion. You are pathetic.
I can see where this is going to lead. There is no sense arguing with a butthead.

I also supplied facts.
Unfortunately your idea of "fact" is to throw something out there which is totally irrelevant and expect everyoe to applaud you. I'm just mocking you because obviously you're too stupid to debate.