World Water Wars

[newpolitics]

The time of water wars is upon us with the privatization of water resources worldwide by multinational conglomerates who are not accountable to, or suppressible by the local populations they effect, even here in America. What say you?

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'Flow,' a documentary on what the privatization of water really means which was the inspiration for me creating this thread. It brings to light the insane and completely immoral behavior of water corporations (Nestle, Coke, Pepsi, as well as Suez and Vivendi, and their involvement with the World Bank)... I am never going to buy another Coke, Pepsi, or Nestle product until... I am dying of thirst, which is the situation many in the world find themselves in now.

 

[editec]

Allowing the privatization of public waters sources is stupid beyond all understanding.

Water is resource of the commonweal and ought never to be allowed to become captured by any private concern.

Right now corporations like Nestles are buying up the world's best springs to make bottled water.

Allowing this to happen is a perfect example of how perverted our governments have become.

 

[skookerasbil]

Hey........30 years ago, I was reading about all kinds of hysterical doomsday theories of the extinction of this natural resource or that natural resource.

You get a few decades down the line and realize there are lots of smart people out there who roll out hysterical theories because they know there are millions of suckers out there who'll buy it in a heartbeat and profit handsomely FTW!!!

 

[Mr. H.]

Dehydrated water is where it's at. Easily packaged, light weight, and there's plenty of it.

 

[newpolitics]

Allowing the privatization of public waters sources is stupid beyond all understanding.

Water is resource of the commonweal and ought never to be allowed to become captured by any private concern.

Right now corporations like Nestles are buying up the world's best springs to make bottled water.

Allowing this to happen is a perfect example of how perverted our governments have become.

I agree. The capacity of these corporations (and many others) to do the most horrendous things that directly effect the health of these local populations without any regard for their health, well-being, or in the case of poorer countries like India, their ability to even survive, can only be described as pure evil- the interest of money over peoples right to life. In places with already little water, they go in, and pump out what is left, while the people standby, thirsty and dying, and then sell that water back to them at prices higher than gasoline, when they know they can't pay it. Or put water meters on water pumps to people that are living in absolute poverty and can not afford it, in third world countries. These private corporations are sick in the head, and so are the people that run them. The IMF and the World Bank or just as bad. Pure corruption, greed, and disregard for people lower on the food chain.

 

[waltky]

Recommendation for better water management...

UN Report: Population Growth to Cause Water Crunch
Monday, August 22nd, 2011 - A new report calls for better water and food management to prevent crises as the global population growth causes stress to natural resources.

The United Nations report issued Monday says more than 1.5 billion people already live in areas where water is scarce. But it says that if the number of humans rises from the current seven billion to at least nine billion as expected by 2050, more people could face water and food shortages.

The report says climate change will increase scarcity by altering patterns and intensity of rainfall. Scientists estimate that in Africa alone, agricultural output could be reduced by 15 to 30 percent by century's end. They say that in many major food-producing regions, including the plains of northern China, India's Punjab and the western United States, water limits are already being “reached or breached.”

The authors are calling for innovative approaches to farming to yield better crops with less damage to the environment. They also recommend efforts to reduce losses and waste along the food chain, and smart management of natural resources, especially water. Suggested ideas include better training for farmers, government incentives for environmentally-sound practices, crops that are more suited to scarce or irregular rainfall, water-efficient irrigation techniques and in some countries water reservoirs to help farmers survive dry spells.

The assessment compiled by the U.N. Environment Program and the International Water Management Institute was released at the start of the World Water Week in Stockholm, a global forum on water issues. The agency U.N. Habitat said in a release Monday that urban residents in developing countries are struggling without adequate water and sanitation. It says up to 50 percent of urban residents in sub-Saharan Africa do not have access to clean water and even more lack adequate sanitation.

Source

 

[udoshia]

I read the population is increasing exponentially and by 2040 we will have doubled it from what it is today. that is if there are no pandemics, solar flares well.......you know.
I read in it was either scientific American or skeptical enquirer (my favorite) that George Bush and his daughter have bought 100,000 acres of land in Paraguay for the naturalwater in the ground so once again he can have power in the world and...........he has a whole military camp living there. BP has bought water rights. nestles. Monsanto's (go to Google or anywhere and type in basic search "the most evil corporation in the world" and the times I have over the years Monsanto's is listed first) just doing that search and linking back and forth allot of people are planning water to be their new black gold to power and fortune.

 

[waltky]

George Bush and his daughter have bought 100,000 acres of land in Paraguay for the naturalwater in the ground so once again he can have power in the world and...........he has a whole military camp living there.

More likely for a coca plantation...

... especially if there's a whole military camp...

... to protect it living there...

... cocaine production requires a good supply of water.

 

[udoshia]

well then............never mind..........

 

[Old Rocks]

Water is going to be a major flashpoint nationally and internationally as the climate becomes more variable. Were we a sane species, we would be building canals and re-enforcing our dams on the Missouri and Mississippi rivers right now. Won't happen until there is a major catastrophe. It took a dustbowl to make people contour plow, and create national grasslands so there would are vulneble areas deeply rooted enough to keep the soil from blowing away in drougth times.

 

[editec]

Water empires existed in the past (China, and Egypt, tow good examples) and it looks like they're going to come back into vogue again.

One of the tools, for example, the Isrealis have is their control of the water supply going to the PLA

 

[longknife]

Water empires existed in the past (China, and Egypt, tow good examples) and it looks like they're going to come back into vogue again.

One of the tools, for example, the Isrealis have is their control of the water supply going to the PLA

And, what is happening with the growing demand for fresh water is the advances in technology to desalinate sea water.

Israel gets the majority of its water from desalinization plants and this will increase in the next few years. The only ones who suffer will be the few land-locked nations.

A large desalinization plant is under construction just south of Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico that will result in a huge influx of home buyers from California.

 

[Mr. H.]

Water is going to be a major flashpoint nationally and internationally as the climate becomes more variable. Were we a sane species, we would be building canals and re-enforcing our dams on the Missouri and Mississippi rivers right now. Won't happen until there is a major catastrophe. It took a dustbowl to make people contour plow, and create national grasslands so there would are vulneble areas deeply rooted enough to keep the soil from blowing away in drougth times.

Yup.

My pop drilled over 1,000 water wells in his brief career. He always said that some day water would become more valuable than oil. And that was back in the 60's.

 

[newpolitics]

Hey........30 years ago, I was reading about all kinds of hysterical doomsday theories of the extinction of this natural resource or that natural resource.

You get a few decades down the line and realize there are lots of smart people out there who roll out hysterical theories because they know there are millions of suckers out there who'll buy it in a heartbeat and profit handsomely FTW!!!

What? Is there a point anyone in here, or just more neo-conservative drivel? Oh that's right, corporations are all saintly and can do no wrong because they are the job creators, so are absolved of all sin.

 

[waltky]

Reservoirs help manage water supply but make local flooding worse...

Reservoirs can make local flooding worse, says study
14 December 2012 - Researchers say that large man-made reservoirs can increase the intensity of rainfall and could affect flood defences.

The scientists found that rain patterns around bodies of water in Chile were much higher than in similar areas without them. This "lake effect" could overwhelm flood defences which are often built without taking it into account. The study has been accepted for publication in the journal Hydrology.

Stormy edge

Previous research in this field has focused on the impact of dams on local climates. There is evidence that standing bodies like reservoirs and lakes can alter rain patterns by increasing the amount of water that evaporates. Some experts believe that you also get circulating air patterns in the atmosphere above the boundary between the water and the land and this can initiate thunderstorms and showers.

The impact can be significant. One study showed that extreme precipitation increased by 4% per year after dams were built. In this latest work, researchers from the University of Talca, Chile, examined data from 50 rain gauges near reservoirs in different parts of the country. Chile has a large variety of climates ranging from areas that get 0mm of annual rainfall to places that get more that 4,500mm. The scientists found that the most intense rainfall was measured at weather stations located near water bodies, especially in drier climates.

One of the authors, Dr Pablo Garcia-Chevesich from the University of Arizona told BBC News that the work had important implications for flood defences. "If you install a water reservoir that will change things totally and that will lead to flooding," he said. "Engineers get fired when there's flooding because they didn't do a good design, but in reality they did good work but someone else installed a water reservoir and the climate changed." "The bigger the water body, the greater the effect." Dr Garcia-Chevesich said this area of research was controversial because changing the design of flood defences was very expensive.

Dam boosters

 

[skookerasbil]

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD......now the anti-capitalist nut balls are on a water end of the world crisis. Shit is classic level of ridiculous. What'll it be next? These k00ks actually sit around and fret about this stuff every day.

Does make for good laughs on the intanets though............


When I was in college in the 1970's the nutty-ass professors at the state universities were pushing all this crap............we werent gonna make it to the end of the century. Yuk........yuk.........wonder what BS they are pushing today?

 

[skookerasbil]

These poor fucking mental cases like this NewPolitics guy.........living in a perpetual state of hyper-anxiety over the end of the world contingent. We all know one or two of them.......fascinating people!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

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