World War Three

[USMCDevilDog]

So....thoughts? Will it happen, if so, how and will it even be recognized as World War 3 or will everyone just say it's a conflict?

I can't help but imagine that we're getting closer by the day to the next World War and America's involvement in it is still a question to me since we're already there. What will we do if it all hell breaks loose?

:dev1: <---- It's all his fault...lol

 

[Annie]

So....thoughts? Will it happen, if so, how and will it even be recognized as World War 3 or will everyone just say it's a conflict?

I can't help but imagine that we're getting closer by the day to the next World War and America's involvement in it is still a question to me since we're already there. What will we do if it all hell breaks loose?

:dev1: <---- It's all his fault...lol

It started before the Cold War ended. IMO. The West just kept hoping band aids and money would help. We were wrong. Problem is, most of The West is still in favor of this tact:

http://www.easybourse.com/Website/dynamic/News.php?NewsID=36447&lang=fra&NewsRubrique=2

French Foreign Min Condemns Iran's Call To Destroy Israel
Thursday August 3rd, 2006 / 15h31

PARIS (AP)--France's foreign minister condemned Iran's call on Thursday to destroy Israel, saying Iran is ruining its chances to play a positive and stabilizing role in the Middle East.

"I totally condemn these words," Philippe Douste-Blazy said on France-Inter radio, in response to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's statement Thursday that the solution to the current Middle East crisis was to destroy Israel.

The words are "absolutely unacceptable on anyone's part, especially from a head of state," Douste-Blazy said.

France, which has led efforts to end the fighting in Lebanon, has said Iran could play a stabilizing role in the conflict.

Douste-Blazy said Thursday that the crisis had presented an opportunity for Iran to "show that it can play a positive and stabilizing role in the region," but added that Ahmadinejad's statement "confirmed that this is not the case."
Douste-Blazy said he would do everything he could to help persuade Iran to give up its nuclear program before Aug. 31, a deadline set by a U.N. resolution that could pave the way for sanctions against Iran if it doesn't comply.

 

[USMCDevilDog]

It started before the Cold War ended. IMO. The West just kept hoping band aids and money would help. We were wrong. Problem is, most of The West is still in favor of this tact:

http://www.easybourse.com/Website/dynamic/News.php?NewsID=36447&lang=fra&NewsRubrique=2

Ok, well obviously no one in the history books is gonna say that World War 3 started in the late 70's. It's gonna say the Cold War ended in 1991, then there were some conflicts for some reasons then World War 3 started. This will happen because asyou just said, no one will admit to the fact that we've been fighting a war for all these years.

This just reminds me of the 1930's. America and Europe are just waiting, and some of us are too ignorant to know what the fuck is about to happen because we think everything can be fucking solved by diplomacy.

There is NO peace, just breaks between war. People need to understand that.

 

[CSM]

It started before the Cold War ended. IMO. The West just kept hoping band aids and money would help. We were wrong. Problem is, most of The West is still in favor of this tact:

http://www.easybourse.com/Website/dynamic/News.php?NewsID=36447&lang=fra&NewsRubrique=2

Yeah, France and it's diplomats are all gung-ho right up until Iran's crazy leader starts threatening France. Those same diplomats will immediately surrender and then declare a great diplomatic victory.

 

[CSM]

Ok, well obviously no one in the history books is gonna say that World War 3 started in the late 70's. It's gonna say the Cold War ended in 1991, then there were some conflicts for some reasons then World War 3 started. This will happen because asyou just said, no one will admit to the fact that we've been fighting a war for all these years.

This just reminds me of the 1930's. America and Europe are just waiting, and some of us are too ignorant to know what the fuck is about to happen because we think everything can be fucking solved by diplomacy.

There is NO peace, just breaks between war. People need to understand that.

Human history is a record of war with periods of "peace" interspersed. Those peaceful periods are really re-armament and resupply periods. The longer the war, the longer it takes to rearm. Lately, it seems that 6 to 10 years is the norm for a country to catch its breath and start all over again. Of course, some nations run out of steam all together and just don't have the desire or the resources to rearm...ala the European nations, for example. Those are the ones you will hear caterwalling about "diplomatic solutions".

 

[dilloduck]

Human history is a record of war with periods of "peace" interspersed. Those peaceful periods are really re-armament and resupply periods. The longer the war, the longer it takes to rearm. Lately, it seems that 6 to 10 years is the norm for a country to catch its breath and start all over again. Of course, some nations run out of steam all together and just don't have the desire or the resources to rearm...ala the European nations, for example. Those are the ones you will hear caterwalling about "diplomatic solutions".

Particularly interesting since they have no way to enforce a "diplomatic solution". Half the world is living in land. Nothing can be resolved when people will not look at the truth, media moguls warp it, and world leaders propagandize it.

 

[Gunny]

Particularly interesting since they have no way to enforce a "diplomatic solution". Half the world is living in land. Nothing can be resolved when people will not look at the truth, media moguls warp it, and world leaders propagandize it.

A-Men to that.

 

[USMCDevilDog]

So what do you ya'll think is gonna happen?

 

[Annie]

Ok, well obviously no one in the history books is gonna say that World War 3 started in the late 70's. It's gonna say the Cold War ended in 1991, then there were some conflicts for some reasons then World War 3 started. This will happen because asyou just said, no one will admit to the fact that we've been fighting a war for all these years.

This just reminds me of the 1930's. America and Europe are just waiting, and some of us are too ignorant to know what the fuck is about to happen because we think everything can be fucking solved by diplomacy.

There is NO peace, just breaks between war. People need to understand that.

Not necessarily. Some do remember Tehran. I know history will, IF the West wins.

 

[Told you So]

When Israel militarily responded to Lebanese Hezbollah, many people wondered if World War 3 would start. People wondered about World War 3 with Afghanistan and Iraq as well.

I dont think its possible to have another World War. Nations and governments are too economically, politically, and socially linked to one another that the possibility of World War is negligible. World Wars are constructed by strong military alliances and deep-rooted global strife. In today's situation, the deep-rooted strife remains only within the Middle East, and mainly among Israel, Iranian/Lebanese Hezbollah, and Hamas. While President Ahmedinejad did say that an Israeli attack on Syria would bring Iran into the war (which would then bring in the US), the chain of threatening military alliances ends there.

Europe would mostly remain out of this war (though aiding US and Israel), Asia would stay out (though China may still consider trading with Iran for oil-energy benefits), and the rest of the world is mainly uninvolved.

So the final count in what is probably the worst-case scenario is: US + ISRAEL vs. IRAN + LEBENESE HEZBOLLA + SYRIA

which isn't even that bad.

What the world must not lose focus on is Iran's nuclear program. There have been "talks" and nothing has been done. The UN must ACT now, and show the world that it has any sort of power or sway in important world issues. if the UN/G8/EU/ (insert shortened form of an organization) dont act soon and efficiently, then the US will once again invade the Middle East to get something done.


World War 3... no.
Energy crisis if Iran decides to screw with the Persian gulf when US/ISRAEL attack it (because of nuclear program and general violent attitude toward Western society)... most likely.

 

[Annie]

When Israel militarily responded to Lebanese Hezbollah, many people wondered if World War 3 would start. People wondered about World War 3 with Afghanistan and Iraq as well.

I dont think its possible to have another World War. Nations and governments are too economically, politically, and socially linked to one another that the possibility of World War is negligible. World Wars are constructed by strong military alliances and deep-rooted global strife. In today's situation, the deep-rooted strife remains only within the Middle East, and mainly among Israel, Iranian/Lebanese Hezbollah, and Hamas. While President Ahmedinejad did say that an Israeli attack on Syria would bring Iran into the war (which would then bring in the US), the chain of threatening military alliances ends there.

Europe would mostly remain out of this war (though aiding US and Israel), Asia would stay out (though China may still consider trading with Iran for oil-energy benefits), and the rest of the world is mainly uninvolved.

So the final count in what is probably the worst-case scenario is: US + ISRAEL vs. IRAN + LEBENESE HEZBOLLA + SYRIA

which isn't even that bad.

What the world must not lose focus on is Iran's nuclear program. There have been "talks" and nothing has been done. The UN must ACT now, and show the world that it has any sort of power or sway in important world issues. if the UN/G8/EU/ (insert shortened form of an organization) dont act soon and efficiently, then the US will once again invade the Middle East to get something done.


World War 3... no.
Energy crisis if Iran decides to screw with the Persian gulf when US/ISRAEL attack it (because of nuclear program and general violent attitude toward Western society)... most likely.

I'd like to look at your thesis a bit. Setting aside the alliances for now, please explain the 'deep rooted global conflicts' that underlie WWI and WWII? In WWI Europe was immersed in their nationalism problem and colonial empires, but how was the rest of the world readying for war? Especially the US? Japan had more or less completed their economic revolution, was starting on its empire, but were not threatening the 'world', not by a long shot. So where were the 'threats' and 'challenges' arising regarding spheres of power, other than in Europe?

WWII one sees some pressures due to the reconfiguration of the world via the end of WWI. Indeed, one could argue that the effects of the worldwide depression certainly kept military spending low, except in 2 states, pulling in the opposite direction of war.

With the exception of those two states, and a bit of bellicosity by one, the world was not clamoring for war, to say the least. The weakest of the 3 states only threatened a third world nation, in Africa, and still had a bit on its hands with that. Indeed, when the one historically strong European state, that was rearming made demands, the tendency was to say, 'Give in, we do NOT want war.'

Could you explain further your theory?