Discussion in 'Military' started by ginscpy, Jun 24, 2011.
ALL wars are real, dummy! Just ask those who fought in them!
The draft is not needed and in fact would be counter productive.
The all volunteer force is meeting their recruitment and retention goals. An enlistment now is 8 years. 6 active and 2 reserve as needs allow. It takes a full year to train someone in even the most basic of MOS's in the military. A draftee would spend a year being trained as a grunt and then not even have enough time left to be deployed anywhere. Draftees generally do NOT want to be in the military, bringing unit morale DOWN. Volunteers do not want to serve with draftees that are just marking days till they can unass the area.
Further the Government pays a hell of a lot more to even the newest recruit then they did even in the 70's after the draft ended. You want the budget for the military to sky rocket? After all to start the draft we would need to increase the size of the military to accommodate what ever idiotic number of draftees you think should serve in a useless position. All for no reason.
Or are you suggesting the Government should draftee people against their will for 4 years?
If you happened to be a young man during the Viet Nam Era, and you were one of those who were facing the draft, you'd realize just how unfairly that draft was implemented.
I'm sympathetic to the concept of a UNIVERSL DRAFT expect for the fact that I know god-damned well, that it would NOT be universal.
It is NOT needed. The military is better off with an all volunteer force. I do believe that States should return to the militia though. Every able bodied man and woman 18 to 40 should be required to serve 2 days a month in the State Militia. ANd subject to call up by the laws of the State in regards how the militia is used.
These militias would NOT be Federal. The Federal Government has the National Guard which is that part of a State militia that is federalized.
I agree that at this time the draft is not needed.
For that matter 50% of the current military is not needed.
Our military might ought to have something to do with our economic might.
Right now those two things are wildly out of kilter.
Listen motherfucker, you keep posting the same thing over and over, that WW2 was the last real war and that the draft needs to be brought back. You are a motherfucking coward because you skipped out in Vietnam and you are calling for a draft now because you know you are too old to be called on for it, people who call on a draft when they know they are not eligible are pieces of shit who need to open their mouth so I can take a hot steaming piss in it.
You know RGS, I kinda think that Israel has it right. Everyone who is 18, after they graduate high school, go straight to the military for 2 years. That would be enough time to train 'em up, and get ready for deployment. If they decide they like it? THEN they can re-enlist and deploy.
A side benefit is that it gives them 2 years of discipline and teamwork, so even if they do decide to get out, they're better citizens because of it.
Israel has to do that because it is a small country and they are surrounded by hostile forces, they have to have all men Military trained for their survival. While I do think it is good that everyone serves their country I don't think it should be mandatory, not everyone is cut out for Military service.
Most who served in Vietnam were NOT drafted.
Another Liberal lie.
2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers.
2/3 of the men who served in World War II were drafted. (Westmoreland papers)
Approximately 70% of those killed were volunteers.(McCaffrey Papers)
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