World Starves as Americans burn food to drive cars

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    Should have went with Sugar Cane like the Brazilians..but what can ya do?
     
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    We use more energy making Ethanol then we get from the Ethanol.:eusa_whistle:

    Ethanol Fuel from Corn Faulted as ‘Unsustainable Subsidized Food Burning’


    David Pimental, a leading Cornell University agricultural expert, has calculated that powering the average U.S. automobile for one year on ethanol (blended with gasoline) derived from corn would require 11 acres of farmland, the same space needed to grow a year's supply of food for seven people. Adding up the energy costs of corn production and its conversion into ethanol, 131,000 BTUs are needed to make one gallon of ethanol. One gallon of ethanol has an energy value of only 77,000 BTUS. Thus, 70 percent more energy is required to produce ethanol than the energy that actually is in it. Every time you make one gallon of ethanol, there is a net energy loss of 54,000 BTUs.

    Mr. Pimentel concluded that "abusing our precious croplands to grow corn for an energy-inefficient process that yields low-grade automobile fuels amounts to unsustainable subsidized food burning".

    http://healthandenergy.com/ethanol.htm
     
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    that would drive up the commodity prices on sugar and of course would result in higher food prices here and abroad.
     
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    Corn production for ethanol is heavily subsidized by our tax dollars because the production cost is expensive. Also, ethanol takes a toll on internal combustion engines.
    Ethanol cannot be shipped by pipeline. It must be trucked to refineries. Ethanol begins to break down almost immediately after it is produced. Ethanol production is inefficient from the time the corn seed is planted to the time it is blended with gasoline.
    Should the federal government drop the subsidies, ethanol would become a non-starter.
     
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    No. It wasn't a stupid idea. It was a great idea - but it failed. Sometimes, even great ideas fail.

    I'm glad someone tried to find an alternative to gasoline. In this case it didn't work, and we need to give up, and stop subsidizing it to the tune of 7 billion dollars a year.

    But we should keep trying.
     
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    Elections "start" in Iowa , Iowa grows corn , you will never be rid of corn subsidies for "ethanol fuel" until a better crop comes along... Hemp for diesel or Marijuana for taxing.
     
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    On what planet is burning food for fuel while people are starving a great idea?

    You keep saying we need to find an alternative fuel, but there is nothing wrong with the fuel we are using now. You just won't let us get it.
     
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    Wait... Did you really blame this on me?

    How exactly am I stopping you from getting "it"?
     
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    By supporting politicians who don't allow us to drill.
     
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