Working their gun control magic in Florida

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    so this black kid Tryvon was most likely caught doing something and this Hispanic guy Zimmerman shoots him.

    the media and their action groups look at this and say "this looks like a clear-cut case that we can get involved in and try to overturn Second Amendment gun rights and self-defense laws in Florida"

    the first thing they do is say "what if this kid was white? nah nah nah"

    Tryvon's girlfriend says he was saying someone was following him,
    ...she was on the phone with him and telling him to run away,
    now they release 911 tapes of -someone- screaming for help before there was a gun shot.

    the media and their action groups don't care about this kid, they just want to pass their totalitarian gun laws.

    where was the media attention a couple of months ago when the police kicked in someones door in a drug raid and killed an innocent bystander?
    the media has no problem with the government killing people.

    this issue isn't about Florida's gun laws, the issue is whether or not this guy used excessive force.



    the bottom line is, gun rights are protected by the Constitution, establishment of police departments is not.




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    Until the left joins the rest of the Country and calls for the indictment of the Attorney General for approving the shipment of 3,000 illegal weapons to Mexico it has no credibility in the gun-rights argument.
     
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    True. Of course, we weren't supposed to know what really happened. I believe the intent was to blame gun dealers and call for more gun control. Unfortunately, some agents had a conscience and knew this was wrong, so they blew the whistle and the whole plan backfired.

    The left will latch onto to any case and try to use it to further their agenda. To hell with the constitution and the bill of rights. This is big government doing what our forefathers warned about and hoped to prevent. Government bureaucrats taking away our rights and claiming it's for the greater good. Mind you, they have to do this with a belief that politicians are smarter than the rest of society.

    As far as this latest case, police need to investigate, arrest someone and then we need a trial. No matter what side people chose to take before facts are in, we still have a system to follow and if people do their job honorably, justice will prevail. We need not point the finger at all honest, law abiding gun owners and threaten their rights over the actions of one person.
     
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    What does that have to do with the state law in Florida?

    The way I see it one can walk up to someone and commit murder by shooting them point blank and as long as there aren't any witnesses he or she can simply call it "self defense".

    And, as we found out, the state can't touch them.

    I wonder if any of the lawmakers in Florida thought this through before giving a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card to murderers?
     
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    The law is relatively new, less than ten years. As with all laws it’s subject to interpretation by law enforcement and the courts. In general it is assumed law enforcement makes a good faith effort to interpret a given statue in ‘real world’ situations, in conjunction with any existing case law.

    Over time, subject to the crucible of judicial review, established and settled case law is forged that the courts and law enforcement must abide by.

    In a very similar case last year with very similar circumstances, criminal charges were dropped because ‘stand your ground’ didn’t warrant arrest in the first place:

    The Sanford police were likely aware of this precedent, and responded accordingly.
     

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