Woodrow Wilson was a racist who hated the constitution, & liberal academics regard him as a hero

[basquebromance]

i've taken the time to provide links this time, so all you progressive apologists can't complain and say: "where's the link?"

we begin with a Woodrow W quote from 1903:

"the white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant n***s...every countryside wished to have its own KKK, surrounded by secrecy...until at last there had sprung into existence a great KKK, an invisible Empire of the South, bound together to protect the Southern country from some of the ugliest hazards of a time of revolution."

(source: The white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves, by fair means or foul, of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant negroes and conducted in the interest of adventurers. - Woodrow Wilson - DumbocratQuotes.com )

Wilson's most egregious public racism was his embrace of DW Griffith's 1915 pro-Klan film Birth Of A Nation. the film was sprinkled with racist quotes from Wilson's writings and featured white actors in blackface portraying racist stereotypes of blacks. Wilson said of the film: "like writing history with lighting, and my only regret is that it's all so terribly true."

(source: The long-forgotten racial attitudes and policies of Woodrow Wilson » Professor Voices | Blog Archive | Boston University
of-woodrow-wilson/ )

in November 2015, WaPo columnist Richard Cohen penned an article titled "Wilson was Racist, but he deserves our understanding" here it is: Opinion | Woodrow Wilson was racist, but he deserves our understanding

Woodrow Wilson on capitalism v socialism:

"no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory."

Wilson's scorn for the Constitution rings clear and strong. he even derided the US system of checks and balances. "No living thing can have its organs offset against each other, as checks...and live." he ridiculed the idea of individual rights:

"no doubt a great deal of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as a fundamental principle. however, the rights of man are easy to discourse of, but infinitely hard to translate into practice. such theories are never "law"'; no matter what the name or the formal authority of the document in which they are embodied"

( source: progressingamerica: Progressivism: nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of individuals )

"all the progressives ask is permission to interpret the constitution according to the Darwinian principle, all they ask is for recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine" - Wilson, 1912

Wilson was equally contemptuos of the Declaration of Independence, claiming: "if you want to understand the real Declaration Of Independence, do not repeat the preface that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights. the question is not whether all men are born free and equal or not, because we all know they are not"

Wilson argued that Americans "are not bound to adhere to the doctrines held by the signers of the Declaration, because we are as free as they are to make and unmake governments." Americans, he said, should not "worship men or a document.".....unless of course, that man was they worshipped was Woodrow Wilson!

(source: progressingamerica: Woodrow Wilson absolutely hated the principles of the Founding Fathers )

Wilson loathed "blind worship" of the constitution and thought veneration of the Founders prevented Americans from appreciating a "more glorious time to come"..."The progressive idea is to leave the past and press onward to something new" he said

(source: Did The Constitution Deliver? )

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Feels like another bucs90 oreo account

 

[Avatar4321]

So was lbj. It's a reoccurring theme in the left.

 

[basquebromance]

So was lbj. It's a reoccurring theme in the left.

so was FDR.

 

[TNHarley]

He also kept control of his Australian mine. JS

 

[basquebromance]

"God works through the State in carrying out his purposes more universally than through any other institution" - Woodrow Wilson

 

[Pogo]

i've taken the time to provide links this time, so all you progressive apologists can't complain and say: "where's the link?"

we begin with a Woodrow W quote from 1903:

"the white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant n***s...every countryside wished to have its own KKK, surrounded by secrecy...until at last there had sprung into existence a great KKK, an invisible Empire of the South, bound together to protect the Southern country from some of the ugliest hazards of a time of revolution."

(source: The white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves, by fair means or foul, of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant negroes and conducted in the interest of adventurers. - Woodrow Wilson - DumbocratQuotes.com )

Wilson's most egregious public racism was his embrace of DW Griffith's 1915 pro-Klan film Birth Of A Nation. the film was sprinkled with racist quotes from Wilson's writings and featured white actors in blackface portraying racist stereotypes of blacks. Wilson said of the film: "like writing history with lighting, and my only regret is that it's all so terribly true."

(source: The long-forgotten racial attitudes and policies of Woodrow Wilson » Professor Voices | Blog Archive | Boston University
of-woodrow-wilson/ )

in November 2015, WaPo columnist Richard Cohen penned an article titled "Wilson was Racist, but he deserves our understanding" here it is: Opinion | Woodrow Wilson was racist, but he deserves our understanding

Woodrow Wilson on capitalism v socialism:

"no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory."

Wilson's scorn for the Constitution rings clear and strong. he even derided the US system of checks and balances. "No living thing can have its organs offset against each other, as checks...and live." he ridiculed the idea of individual rights:

"no doubt a great deal of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as a fundamental principle. however, the rights of man are easy to discourse of, but infinitely hard to translate into practice. such theories are never "law"'; no matter what the name or the formal authority of the document in which they are embodied"

( source: progressingamerica: Progressivism: nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of individuals )

"all the progressives ask is permission to interpret the constitution according to the Darwinian principle, all they ask is for recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine" - Wilson, 1912

Wilson was equally contemptuos of the Declaration of Independence, claiming: "if you want to understand the real Declaration Of Independence, do not repeat the preface that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights. the question is not whether all men are born free and equal or not, because we all know they are not"

Wilson argued that Americans "are not bound to adhere to the doctrines held by the signers of the Declaration, because we are as free as they are to make and unmake governments." Americans, he said, should not "worship men or a document.".....unless of course, that man was they worshipped was Woodrow Wilson!

(source: progressingamerica: Woodrow Wilson absolutely hated the principles of the Founding Fathers )

Wilson loathed "blind worship" of the constitution and thought veneration of the Founders prevented Americans from appreciating a "more glorious time to come"..."The progressive idea is to leave the past and press onward to something new" he said

(source: Did The Constitution Deliver? )

Thanks but for this I don't need a link.

Wilson was no "hero". He was a racist asshole who was also running a war in the Soviet Union besides meddling in other places such as Latin America. By the time his term was up, Wilson was so despised that Warren Harding barely campaigned at all and won the Presidency by the bigliest landslide in history. His wife and other sources have tried to whitewash his image since then but for anyone who bothers to examine history, this is not a mystery.

What, are you doing all the Presidents? Or just the Democrat ones?

 

[Pogo]

So was lbj. It's a reoccurring theme in the left.

"So was lbj [sic]" -- what? It's kind of a good idea to have a quote handy so a reader can maybe have a clue what you're talking about.

 

[basquebromance]

So was lbj. It's a reoccurring theme in the left.

"So was lbj [sic]" -- what? It's kind of a good idea to have a quote handy so a reader can maybe have a clue what you're talking about.

sure. here's what LBJ actually said, in a conversation with Senator Richard Russell: "these n****s, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they got something now they've never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. otherwise, they may start voting Republican and it'll be Reconstruction all over again. if i have it my way, I'll have them n***s voting Democrat for 200 years."

and here's your link: Did LBJ Say 'I'll Have Those N*****s Voting Democratic for 200 Years'?

 

[TNHarley]

So was lbj. It's a reoccurring theme in the left.

"So was lbj [sic]" -- what? It's kind of a good idea to have a quote handy so a reader can maybe have a clue what you're talking about.

sure. here's what LBJ actually said, in a conversation with Senator Richard Russell: "these n****s, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they got something now they've never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. otherwise, they may start voting Republican and it'll be Reconstruction all over again. if i have it my way, I'll have them n***s voting Democrat for 200 years."

and here's your link: Did LBJ Say 'I'll Have Those N*****s Voting Democratic for 200 Years'?

There isn't actual proof he said that. Its just word of mouth. But I wouldn't doubt it being true.

 

[Pogo]

So was lbj. It's a reoccurring theme in the left.

"So was lbj [sic]" -- what? It's kind of a good idea to have a quote handy so a reader can maybe have a clue what you're talking about.

sure. here's what LBJ actually said, in a conversation with Senator Richard Russell: "these n****s, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they got something now they've never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. otherwise, they may start voting Republican and it'll be Reconstruction all over again. if i have it my way, I'll have them n***s voting Democrat for 200 years."

and here's your link: Did LBJ Say 'I'll Have Those N*****s Voting Democratic for 200 Years'?

Actually it wasn't your post I inquired about. I'm waiting for Avatar4321 to flesh out his sentence.

TNH is correct, there's no corroboration, but what's the point anyway?

 

[basquebromance]

i've taken the time to provide links this time, so all you progressive apologists can't complain and say: "where's the link?"

we begin with a Woodrow W quote from 1903:

"the white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant n***s...every countryside wished to have its own KKK, surrounded by secrecy...until at last there had sprung into existence a great KKK, an invisible Empire of the South, bound together to protect the Southern country from some of the ugliest hazards of a time of revolution."

(source: The white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves, by fair means or foul, of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant negroes and conducted in the interest of adventurers. - Woodrow Wilson - DumbocratQuotes.com )

Wilson's most egregious public racism was his embrace of DW Griffith's 1915 pro-Klan film Birth Of A Nation. the film was sprinkled with racist quotes from Wilson's writings and featured white actors in blackface portraying racist stereotypes of blacks. Wilson said of the film: "like writing history with lighting, and my only regret is that it's all so terribly true."

(source: The long-forgotten racial attitudes and policies of Woodrow Wilson » Professor Voices | Blog Archive | Boston University
of-woodrow-wilson/ )

in November 2015, WaPo columnist Richard Cohen penned an article titled "Wilson was Racist, but he deserves our understanding" here it is: Opinion | Woodrow Wilson was racist, but he deserves our understanding

Woodrow Wilson on capitalism v socialism:

"no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory."

Wilson's scorn for the Constitution rings clear and strong. he even derided the US system of checks and balances. "No living thing can have its organs offset against each other, as checks...and live." he ridiculed the idea of individual rights:

"no doubt a great deal of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as a fundamental principle. however, the rights of man are easy to discourse of, but infinitely hard to translate into practice. such theories are never "law"'; no matter what the name or the formal authority of the document in which they are embodied"

( source: progressingamerica: Progressivism: nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of individuals )

"all the progressives ask is permission to interpret the constitution according to the Darwinian principle, all they ask is for recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine" - Wilson, 1912

Wilson was equally contemptuos of the Declaration of Independence, claiming: "if you want to understand the real Declaration Of Independence, do not repeat the preface that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights. the question is not whether all men are born free and equal or not, because we all know they are not"

Wilson argued that Americans "are not bound to adhere to the doctrines held by the signers of the Declaration, because we are as free as they are to make and unmake governments." Americans, he said, should not "worship men or a document.".....unless of course, that man was they worshipped was Woodrow Wilson!

(source: progressingamerica: Woodrow Wilson absolutely hated the principles of the Founding Fathers )

Wilson loathed "blind worship" of the constitution and thought veneration of the Founders prevented Americans from appreciating a "more glorious time to come"..."The progressive idea is to leave the past and press onward to something new" he said

(source: Did The Constitution Deliver? )

Thanks but for this I don't need a link.

Wilson was no "hero". He was a racist asshole who was also running a war in the Soviet Union besides meddling in other places such as Latin America. By the time his term was up, Wilson was so despised that Warren Harding barely campaigned at all and won the Presidency by the bigliest landslide in history. His wife and other sources have tried to whitewash his image since then but for anyone who bothers to examine history, this is not a mystery.

What, are you doing all the Presidents? Or just the Democrat ones?

i criticize both parties equally, madam.

i once said: "President Bush is the man who proved you could mix two parts booze with one part cocaine and still fly a jet fighter."

but i'm sure you'll find something to argue about since you're obsessed with arguing with people endlessly.

 

[Pogo]

Who the fuck is "madam"? You quote me and then you talk to "madam"? Are you having a hard time with the quote function?

I've only seen you start these threads about Truman, Wilson and JFK. Looks like a pattern.

Still no answer from either you or Avatar.
I'm used to it though.

 

[peach174]

i've taken the time to provide links this time, so all you progressive apologists can't complain and say: "where's the link?"

we begin with a Woodrow W quote from 1903:

"the white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant n***s...every countryside wished to have its own KKK, surrounded by secrecy...until at last there had sprung into existence a great KKK, an invisible Empire of the South, bound together to protect the Southern country from some of the ugliest hazards of a time of revolution."

(source: The white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves, by fair means or foul, of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant negroes and conducted in the interest of adventurers. - Woodrow Wilson - DumbocratQuotes.com )

Wilson's most egregious public racism was his embrace of DW Griffith's 1915 pro-Klan film Birth Of A Nation. the film was sprinkled with racist quotes from Wilson's writings and featured white actors in blackface portraying racist stereotypes of blacks. Wilson said of the film: "like writing history with lighting, and my only regret is that it's all so terribly true."

(source: The long-forgotten racial attitudes and policies of Woodrow Wilson » Professor Voices | Blog Archive | Boston University
of-woodrow-wilson/ )

in November 2015, WaPo columnist Richard Cohen penned an article titled "Wilson was Racist, but he deserves our understanding" here it is: Opinion | Woodrow Wilson was racist, but he deserves our understanding

Woodrow Wilson on capitalism v socialism:

"no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory."

Wilson's scorn for the Constitution rings clear and strong. he even derided the US system of checks and balances. "No living thing can have its organs offset against each other, as checks...and live." he ridiculed the idea of individual rights:

"no doubt a great deal of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as a fundamental principle. however, the rights of man are easy to discourse of, but infinitely hard to translate into practice. such theories are never "law"'; no matter what the name or the formal authority of the document in which they are embodied"

( source: progressingamerica: Progressivism: nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of individuals )

"all the progressives ask is permission to interpret the constitution according to the Darwinian principle, all they ask is for recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine" - Wilson, 1912

Wilson was equally contemptuos of the Declaration of Independence, claiming: "if you want to understand the real Declaration Of Independence, do not repeat the preface that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights. the question is not whether all men are born free and equal or not, because we all know they are not"

Wilson argued that Americans "are not bound to adhere to the doctrines held by the signers of the Declaration, because we are as free as they are to make and unmake governments." Americans, he said, should not "worship men or a document.".....unless of course, that man was they worshipped was Woodrow Wilson!

(source: progressingamerica: Woodrow Wilson absolutely hated the principles of the Founding Fathers )

Wilson loathed "blind worship" of the constitution and thought veneration of the Founders prevented Americans from appreciating a "more glorious time to come"..."The progressive idea is to leave the past and press onward to something new" he said

(source: Did The Constitution Deliver? )

Thanks but for this I don't need a link.

Wilson was no "hero". He was a racist asshole who was also running a war in the Soviet Union besides meddling in other places such as Latin America. By the time his term was up, Wilson was so despised that Warren Harding barely campaigned at all and won the Presidency by the bigliest landslide in history. His wife and other sources have tried to whitewash his image since then but for anyone who bothers to examine history, this is not a mystery.

What, are you doing all the Presidents? Or just the Democrat ones?

i criticize both parties equally, madam.

i once said: "President Bush is the man who proved you could mix two parts booze with one part cocaine and still fly a jet fighter."

but i'm sure you'll find something to argue about since you're obsessed with arguing with people endlessly.

Pogo is a Sir, not a madam.

 

[Clementine]

i've taken the time to provide links this time, so all you progressive apologists can't complain and say: "where's the link?"

we begin with a Woodrow W quote from 1903:

"the white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant n***s...every countryside wished to have its own KKK, surrounded by secrecy...until at last there had sprung into existence a great KKK, an invisible Empire of the South, bound together to protect the Southern country from some of the ugliest hazards of a time of revolution."

(source: The white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves, by fair means or foul, of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant negroes and conducted in the interest of adventurers. - Woodrow Wilson - DumbocratQuotes.com )

Wilson's most egregious public racism was his embrace of DW Griffith's 1915 pro-Klan film Birth Of A Nation. the film was sprinkled with racist quotes from Wilson's writings and featured white actors in blackface portraying racist stereotypes of blacks. Wilson said of the film: "like writing history with lighting, and my only regret is that it's all so terribly true."

(source: The long-forgotten racial attitudes and policies of Woodrow Wilson » Professor Voices | Blog Archive | Boston University
of-woodrow-wilson/ )

in November 2015, WaPo columnist Richard Cohen penned an article titled "Wilson was Racist, but he deserves our understanding" here it is: Opinion | Woodrow Wilson was racist, but he deserves our understanding

Woodrow Wilson on capitalism v socialism:

"no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory."

Wilson's scorn for the Constitution rings clear and strong. he even derided the US system of checks and balances. "No living thing can have its organs offset against each other, as checks...and live." he ridiculed the idea of individual rights:

"no doubt a great deal of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as a fundamental principle. however, the rights of man are easy to discourse of, but infinitely hard to translate into practice. such theories are never "law"'; no matter what the name or the formal authority of the document in which they are embodied"

( source: progressingamerica: Progressivism: nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of individuals )

"all the progressives ask is permission to interpret the constitution according to the Darwinian principle, all they ask is for recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine" - Wilson, 1912

Wilson was equally contemptuos of the Declaration of Independence, claiming: "if you want to understand the real Declaration Of Independence, do not repeat the preface that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights. the question is not whether all men are born free and equal or not, because we all know they are not"

Wilson argued that Americans "are not bound to adhere to the doctrines held by the signers of the Declaration, because we are as free as they are to make and unmake governments." Americans, he said, should not "worship men or a document.".....unless of course, that man was they worshipped was Woodrow Wilson!

(source: progressingamerica: Woodrow Wilson absolutely hated the principles of the Founding Fathers )

Wilson loathed "blind worship" of the constitution and thought veneration of the Founders prevented Americans from appreciating a "more glorious time to come"..."The progressive idea is to leave the past and press onward to something new" he said

(source: Did The Constitution Deliver? )

Woodrow Wilson was always my least favorite. He epitomizes everything that is wrong with liberals. Permanent income tax paved the way for future liberals to rob us at will. And he created the dreaded 1% by allowing the creation of the Federal Reserve.

While he doesn't believe in the constitution or individual rights, he does believe that a few should be able to have the right to dictate to the majority. Typical tyrant mindset.

While they show disgust for freedom and liberty for the masses, the demand it for themselves when in power. No dictator would ever agree to live by the rules they impose on others. They see themselves as above that and somehow see the people as mindless sheep who long to be controlled. People like Wilson know nothing about human nature and seem to feel that they are the only ones with an innate desire to shape their own destiny.

We see congress always making laws that they themselves are exempt from. That is why they don't have to settle for Obamacare and they can do as they please to make money, like engage in insider trading. They give themselves all the freedom and liberty in the world while preaching that it's wrong to allow the public the same.

Every liberal I've known has preached that they know best and they seem to expect total compliance with all their whims. Many go along because they are already wards of the government and are content with that. Those who want to soar on their own are told that they mustn't fly too high or succeed beyond what they find acceptable. We'll get reprimanded and told that , at some point, we've made enough money or that our house is big enough. Those rules never apply to those in power.

I've heard libs bitch about the big homes "gobbling up the countryside" as if people have no right. Of course, Pelosi, Gore and all the other tyrants have their big houses, millions in the bank and they feel no shame being driven around in limos or flying in private jets. The average person will get more grief over using the wrong lightbulb or having a wood burning fireplace to keep their family from freezing.

The fact that they see themselves as superior beings who require the things they would deny us is all you need to know about them.

 

[Moonglow]

You do know why income tax was reintroduced as a form of revenue for the federal government?

 

[Pogo]

i've taken the time to provide links this time, so all you progressive apologists can't complain and say: "where's the link?"

we begin with a Woodrow W quote from 1903:

"the white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant n***s...every countryside wished to have its own KKK, surrounded by secrecy...until at last there had sprung into existence a great KKK, an invisible Empire of the South, bound together to protect the Southern country from some of the ugliest hazards of a time of revolution."

(source: The white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves, by fair means or foul, of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant negroes and conducted in the interest of adventurers. - Woodrow Wilson - DumbocratQuotes.com )

Wilson's most egregious public racism was his embrace of DW Griffith's 1915 pro-Klan film Birth Of A Nation. the film was sprinkled with racist quotes from Wilson's writings and featured white actors in blackface portraying racist stereotypes of blacks. Wilson said of the film: "like writing history with lighting, and my only regret is that it's all so terribly true."

(source: The long-forgotten racial attitudes and policies of Woodrow Wilson » Professor Voices | Blog Archive | Boston University
of-woodrow-wilson/ )

in November 2015, WaPo columnist Richard Cohen penned an article titled "Wilson was Racist, but he deserves our understanding" here it is: Opinion | Woodrow Wilson was racist, but he deserves our understanding

Woodrow Wilson on capitalism v socialism:

"no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory."

Wilson's scorn for the Constitution rings clear and strong. he even derided the US system of checks and balances. "No living thing can have its organs offset against each other, as checks...and live." he ridiculed the idea of individual rights:

"no doubt a great deal of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as a fundamental principle. however, the rights of man are easy to discourse of, but infinitely hard to translate into practice. such theories are never "law"'; no matter what the name or the formal authority of the document in which they are embodied"

( source: progressingamerica: Progressivism: nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of individuals )

"all the progressives ask is permission to interpret the constitution according to the Darwinian principle, all they ask is for recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine" - Wilson, 1912

Wilson was equally contemptuos of the Declaration of Independence, claiming: "if you want to understand the real Declaration Of Independence, do not repeat the preface that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights. the question is not whether all men are born free and equal or not, because we all know they are not"

Wilson argued that Americans "are not bound to adhere to the doctrines held by the signers of the Declaration, because we are as free as they are to make and unmake governments." Americans, he said, should not "worship men or a document.".....unless of course, that man was they worshipped was Woodrow Wilson!

(source: progressingamerica: Woodrow Wilson absolutely hated the principles of the Founding Fathers )

Wilson loathed "blind worship" of the constitution and thought veneration of the Founders prevented Americans from appreciating a "more glorious time to come"..."The progressive idea is to leave the past and press onward to something new" he said

(source: Did The Constitution Deliver? )

Woodrow Wilson was always my least favorite. He epitomizes everything that is wrong with liberals. Permanent income tax paved the way for future liberals to rob us at will. And he created the dreaded 1% by allowing the creation of the Federal Reserve.

While he doesn't believe in the constitution or individual rights, he does believe that a few should be able to have the right to dictate to the majority. Typical tyrant mindset.

While they show disgust for freedom and liberty for the masses, the demand it for themselves when in power. No dictator would ever agree to live by the rules they impose on others. They see themselves as above that and somehow see the people as mindless sheep who long to be controlled. People like Wilson know nothing about human nature and seem to feel that they are the only ones with an innate desire to shape their own destiny.

We see congress always making laws that they themselves are exempt from. That is why they don't have to settle for Obamacare and they can do as they please to make money, like engage in insider trading. They give themselves all the freedom and liberty in the world while preaching that it's wrong to allow the public the same.

Every liberal I've known has preached that they know best and they seem to expect total compliance with all their whims. Many go along because they are already wards of the government and are content with that. Those who want to soar on their own are told that they mustn't fly too high or succeed beyond what they find acceptable. We'll get reprimanded and told that , at some point, we've made enough money or that our house is big enough. Those rules never apply to those in power.

I've heard libs bitch about the big homes "gobbling up the countryside" as if people have no right. Of course, Pelosi, Gore and all the other tyrants have their big houses, millions in the bank and they feel no shame being driven around in limos or flying in private jets. The average person will get more grief over using the wrong lightbulb or having a wood burning fireplace to keep their family from freezing.

The fact that they see themselves as superior beings who require the things they would deny us is all you need to know about them.

Care to essplain unto the class how Woodrow Wilson can be described as a "Liberal"?

 

[Pogo]

i've taken the time to provide links this time, so all you progressive apologists can't complain and say: "where's the link?"

we begin with a Woodrow W quote from 1903:

"the white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant n***s...every countryside wished to have its own KKK, surrounded by secrecy...until at last there had sprung into existence a great KKK, an invisible Empire of the South, bound together to protect the Southern country from some of the ugliest hazards of a time of revolution."

(source: The white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves, by fair means or foul, of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant negroes and conducted in the interest of adventurers. - Woodrow Wilson - DumbocratQuotes.com )

Wilson's most egregious public racism was his embrace of DW Griffith's 1915 pro-Klan film Birth Of A Nation. the film was sprinkled with racist quotes from Wilson's writings and featured white actors in blackface portraying racist stereotypes of blacks. Wilson said of the film: "like writing history with lighting, and my only regret is that it's all so terribly true."

(source: The long-forgotten racial attitudes and policies of Woodrow Wilson » Professor Voices | Blog Archive | Boston University
of-woodrow-wilson/ )

in November 2015, WaPo columnist Richard Cohen penned an article titled "Wilson was Racist, but he deserves our understanding" here it is: Opinion | Woodrow Wilson was racist, but he deserves our understanding

Woodrow Wilson on capitalism v socialism:

"no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory."

Wilson's scorn for the Constitution rings clear and strong. he even derided the US system of checks and balances. "No living thing can have its organs offset against each other, as checks...and live." he ridiculed the idea of individual rights:

"no doubt a great deal of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as a fundamental principle. however, the rights of man are easy to discourse of, but infinitely hard to translate into practice. such theories are never "law"'; no matter what the name or the formal authority of the document in which they are embodied"

( source: progressingamerica: Progressivism: nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of individuals )

"all the progressives ask is permission to interpret the constitution according to the Darwinian principle, all they ask is for recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine" - Wilson, 1912

Wilson was equally contemptuos of the Declaration of Independence, claiming: "if you want to understand the real Declaration Of Independence, do not repeat the preface that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights. the question is not whether all men are born free and equal or not, because we all know they are not"

Wilson argued that Americans "are not bound to adhere to the doctrines held by the signers of the Declaration, because we are as free as they are to make and unmake governments." Americans, he said, should not "worship men or a document.".....unless of course, that man was they worshipped was Woodrow Wilson!

(source: progressingamerica: Woodrow Wilson absolutely hated the principles of the Founding Fathers )

Wilson loathed "blind worship" of the constitution and thought veneration of the Founders prevented Americans from appreciating a "more glorious time to come"..."The progressive idea is to leave the past and press onward to something new" he said

(source: Did The Constitution Deliver? )

Woodrow Wilson was always my least favorite. He epitomizes everything that is wrong with liberals. Permanent income tax paved the way for future liberals to rob us at will. And he created the dreaded 1% by allowing the creation of the Federal Reserve.

While he doesn't believe in the constitution or individual rights, he does believe that a few should be able to have the right to dictate to the majority. Typical tyrant mindset.

While they show disgust for freedom and liberty for the masses, the demand it for themselves when in power. No dictator would ever agree to live by the rules they impose on others. They see themselves as above that and somehow see the people as mindless sheep who long to be controlled. People like Wilson know nothing about human nature and seem to feel that they are the only ones with an innate desire to shape their own destiny.

We see congress always making laws that they themselves are exempt from. That is why they don't have to settle for Obamacare and they can do as they please to make money, like engage in insider trading. They give themselves all the freedom and liberty in the world while preaching that it's wrong to allow the public the same.

Every liberal I've known has preached that they know best and they seem to expect total compliance with all their whims. Many go along because they are already wards of the government and are content with that. Those who want to soar on their own are told that they mustn't fly too high or succeed beyond what they find acceptable. We'll get reprimanded and told that , at some point, we've made enough money or that our house is big enough. Those rules never apply to those in power.

I've heard libs bitch about the big homes "gobbling up the countryside" as if people have no right. Of course, Pelosi, Gore and all the other tyrants have their big houses, millions in the bank and they feel no shame being driven around in limos or flying in private jets. The average person will get more grief over using the wrong lightbulb or having a wood burning fireplace to keep their family from freezing.

The fact that they see themselves as superior beings who require the things they would deny us is all you need to know about them.

Care to essplain unto the class how Woodrow Wilson can be described as a "Liberal"?

Soooooo a day later, no response.

--- which is actually the correct answer. There is no such argument.
Ding ding ding!

--- which also means the empty strawman in the topic title is complete bullshit, but we already established that.

 

[gipper]

i've taken the time to provide links this time, so all you progressive apologists can't complain and say: "where's the link?"

we begin with a Woodrow W quote from 1903:

"the white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant n***s...every countryside wished to have its own KKK, surrounded by secrecy...until at last there had sprung into existence a great KKK, an invisible Empire of the South, bound together to protect the Southern country from some of the ugliest hazards of a time of revolution."

(source: The white men of the South were aroused by the mere instinct of self-preservation to rid themselves, by fair means or foul, of the intolerable burden of governments sustained by the votes of ignorant negroes and conducted in the interest of adventurers. - Woodrow Wilson - DumbocratQuotes.com )

Wilson's most egregious public racism was his embrace of DW Griffith's 1915 pro-Klan film Birth Of A Nation. the film was sprinkled with racist quotes from Wilson's writings and featured white actors in blackface portraying racist stereotypes of blacks. Wilson said of the film: "like writing history with lighting, and my only regret is that it's all so terribly true."

(source: The long-forgotten racial attitudes and policies of Woodrow Wilson » Professor Voices | Blog Archive | Boston University
of-woodrow-wilson/ )

in November 2015, WaPo columnist Richard Cohen penned an article titled "Wilson was Racist, but he deserves our understanding" here it is: Opinion | Woodrow Wilson was racist, but he deserves our understanding

Woodrow Wilson on capitalism v socialism:

"no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory."

Wilson's scorn for the Constitution rings clear and strong. he even derided the US system of checks and balances. "No living thing can have its organs offset against each other, as checks...and live." he ridiculed the idea of individual rights:

"no doubt a great deal of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as a fundamental principle. however, the rights of man are easy to discourse of, but infinitely hard to translate into practice. such theories are never "law"'; no matter what the name or the formal authority of the document in which they are embodied"

( source: progressingamerica: Progressivism: nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of individuals )

"all the progressives ask is permission to interpret the constitution according to the Darwinian principle, all they ask is for recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine" - Wilson, 1912

Wilson was equally contemptuos of the Declaration of Independence, claiming: "if you want to understand the real Declaration Of Independence, do not repeat the preface that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights. the question is not whether all men are born free and equal or not, because we all know they are not"

Wilson argued that Americans "are not bound to adhere to the doctrines held by the signers of the Declaration, because we are as free as they are to make and unmake governments." Americans, he said, should not "worship men or a document.".....unless of course, that man was they worshipped was Woodrow Wilson!

(source: progressingamerica: Woodrow Wilson absolutely hated the principles of the Founding Fathers )

Wilson loathed "blind worship" of the constitution and thought veneration of the Founders prevented Americans from appreciating a "more glorious time to come"..."The progressive idea is to leave the past and press onward to something new" he said

(source: Did The Constitution Deliver? )

He was not unlike most of those who followed him as POTUS...at least as per hating the Constitution.

 

[Pogo]

Wilson's most egregious public racism was his embrace of DW Griffith's 1915 pro-Klan film Birth Of A Nation. the film was sprinkled with racist quotes from Wilson's writings and featured white actors in blackface portraying racist stereotypes of blacks. Wilson said of the film: "like writing history with lighting, and my only regret is that it's all so terribly true."

Actually there's no evidence Wilson said this. It's also reported that once the film had run he merely rose and left the room without saying anything.

There is evidence of the "writing history with lightning" phrase, but it's referring to the medium of the motion picture ---- in which "Birth of a Nation" was, sadly, technically innovative, completely aside from its plot. It made the splash it did for both of those reasons --- not just the storyline.

The bit about "my only regret is that it's all so terribly true" might have been advertising copy that D.W. Griffith used to sell the film, attributing it to a "very eminent man" but not naming the source*. In effect, Griffith (or Dixon, the novelist) seems to have made it up --- or somebody did at some later time.

From a 1915 advertising poster in Atlanta:
“History written with lightning” is the description applied to “The Birth of a Nation,” now in its second week at the Atlanta theater, by a very eminent man for whom a private exhibition was given in Washington some months ago.​

--- so this seems to have been congealed into a fake quote many years later (it doesn't appear in print anywhere until 1937, and even then it's unattributed)


From the biography Wilson: The New Freedom (1956) by Arthur S. Link:

>> Dixon conceived a bold scheme -- to arrange a private showing of the film at the White House and thereby to obtain the President’s implied endorsement. [41]

Wilson fell into Dixon’s trap, as indeed, did also members of the Supreme Court and both houses of Congress. Then, when the N.A.A.C.P. sought to prevent the showing of “The Birth of a Nation” in New York, Boston, and other cities, Dixon’s lawyers countered successfully by declaring that Chief Justice had seen the movie and liked it immensely. [42]

The Chief Justice, a Confederate veteran from Louisiana, put an end to the use of his name by threatening to denounce “The Birth of a Nation” publicly if Dixon did not stop saying that he had endorsed it. [43] Perceiving the political dangers in the situation, Tumulty suggested that Wilson write “some sort of a letter showing that he did not approve of the ‘Birth of a Nation.’” [44] “I would like to do this,” the President replied, “if there were some way in which I could do it without seeming to be trying to meet the agitation . . . stirred up by that unspeakable fellow Tucker [Trotter].” [45] He did, however, let Tumulty say that he had at no time approved the film; and three years later, when the nation was at war, he strongly disapproved the showing of this “unfortunate production.” [46]

[41] Dixon tells the story in “Southern Horizons: An Autobiography,” unpublished MS. in the possession of Mrs. Thomas Dixon, Raleigh, North Carolina, pp. 423-424.
[42] For accounts of the hearings in New York and Boston, see Mrs. Walter Damrosch to J.P. Tumulty, March 27, 1915, Wilson Papers; Mrs. Harriet Beale to J.P. Tumulty, March 29, 1915, ibid.; Representative Thomas C. Thacher of Massachusetts to J.P. Tumulty, April 17, 1915, ibid. enclosing letters and documents relating to the hearing in Boston; and Thomas Dixon, “Southern Horizons,” pp. 425-441.
[43] E.D. White to J.P. Tumulty, April 5, 1915, Wilson Papers.
[44] J.P. Tumulty to W.W., April 24, 1915, ibid.
[45] W.W. to J.P. Tumulty, c. April 25, 1915, ibid.
[46] J.P. Tumulty to T.C. Thacher, April 28, 1915, ibid.; W.W. to J.P. Tumulty, c. April 22, 1918, ibid.<<​