CDZ Witnessing History: The Overthrow of the U.S. Government

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    Their is a HUGE difference in organizing a loyal defensive team and perpetrating a MASSIVELY disruptive media/Deep State coupe attempt. The leaks and phony stories and unmasking and SPYING on an opposition team before they even get elected is treasonous and unprecendented. And if not pushed back by the wussies, will be the NEW normal for ANY incoming Admin.

    You just proved that by ATTEMPTING to make the comparison. In the HOPE that making such a comparison makes it legal and acceptable behavior. This is how the 2 parties are destroying the Republic. By LEGITIMIZING illegal, unethical, and mob like behavior of BOTH parties.
     
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    'coupe attempt'?
    "phony stories"- that is pretty ironic when talking about the President who spent 5 years pushing phony birther stories trying to perpetrate a disruptive coupe attempt.

    For Trump to cry crocodile tears about how mean people have been to him- when he spent 5 years pushing Birther bullshit in an attempt to undermine the legitimate President of the United States just shows how a bully like him can't take any heat.

    Trump has himself to blame for his predicament- every time he tweets another attack on someone for a perceived slight he just fans the flames more. His firing of Comey was indicative of the kind of man- and President he is- it was impulsive, poorly planned and poorly executed. Trump didn't even have the balls to fire Comey himself. He didn't have a replacement picked out and ready to announce- and he and his team couldn't even stay on point about what reason Comey was being fired.
     
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    Every President in the last hundred years has had to deal with leaks - and "phony stories" are nothing new either. There's nothing "unprecedented" about what's going on right now other than Trump's staggering level of incompetence in dealing with these leaks and "phony stories".

    On the topic of "phony stories" - have you forgotten all of the Obama is a Kenyan/Muslim/Sleeper agent/Communist/Son of Frank Marshall Davis/and so on... stories of the last 8 years?
     
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    "attempted overthrow" of the country
     
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    ROFLMMFAO... Right!
    He should of sold it instead, like Hillary!
     
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    The Obama stories were true conspiracies. Short on any details or facts. No journalistic stamp of approval. What we see today is a BARRAGE of daily sliming attributed to unidentified, but "highly placed and trustworthy people" that Trump eats steak with ketchup or Trump called Comey a nutbag in front of the Russians. It's literally now an industry coming from the PINNACLES OF JOURNALISM -- not some blogger in his basement. There is an ENTIRE CABLE network dedicated to 24 hour disinformation and speculation on Trump. I never saw that kind of constant belittling of Obama. Not his ethics, morals, or personal life. Not STRINGS of allegations that went FAR BEYOND policy differences.

    But the main thing is -- THESE leaks that I'm concerned about are containing true classified information and gathered from domestic SPYING systems that in the PAST --- only 25 or 50 people were cleared to analyze and distribute. And if that access got usurped for political surveillance, we are in deeper shit than just some unloyal gossip that gets leaked.

    Those systems can make countries fall, they can warp the markets, they can make folks VERY rich if they are abused. OR you could blackmail virtually EVERY person in DC leadership by leaking info from them..

    It's not funny. And it apparently has come very close to political abuse. If the content of 80 or 100 privileged conversations, and texts and emails have been pulled for analysis by an opposition political party - You SHOULD be concerned.... And all the news and scandals LEAD the story with info and data that could ONLY come from those systems.
     
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    And your past Dear Leader OPENED UP access to query and request analysis from those systems just weeks before he skipped town. There WAS an implanted insurgency set-up to harass and destabilize the incoming Admin.
     
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    If you dont mind, I'm going to continue this discussion tomorrow, because it's actually a real conversation, and I'm more than a few drinks into the evening tonight.
     
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    Indeed, the U.S. government has been overthrow. Kris Kobach has led a bloodless coup that has possibly crippled our electoral process beyond repair. He didn't use swords or guns; his weapon was far deadlier. He constructed the diabolical voter purging system known as Crosscheck. Millions of legal voters were disenfranchised just because they shared the same names.
    As a result, the Will of a majority of Americans was usurped and the entire government is now controlled by RW antisocial bigots bent on destroying the middle-class and removing all social safety nets that attend the needs of our most vulnerable....
    A peaceful coup d'état has occured. And Trump moved it up another level when he chose a number of retired generals members of his cabinet. It seems he was setting up a military junta. RW White males orchestrated this coup and did whatever it took to make it work. The worst is yet to come.
     
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