Withdrawal or Secession?

[Flanders]

The way to free America from the destructive administration of President Barack Hussein Obama is out there.

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The ongoing plan to fundamentally transform America did not originate with Obama, who is merely the latest Agent of Change working to complete a UN agenda to implement One World Order (OWO).

The lights went out in America on November 6, but the darkness is also descending on the Free West.

The United Nations houses, down to the last one, all the advocates of One World Order and currently has a grip on civil society through its insidious Agenda 21. The UN’s mission for OWO was stalled until their ‘Agent for Change’ was elected as US president in 2008. The UN’s mission could not proceed with a strong and economically viable US as world leader and superpower.

The way back into the light rests in the dismantling of the UN.

Internationally, there is nothing more important to Americans than is withdrawing from the United Nations. In order to accomplish that goal McLeod & Hagmann focus on Agenda 21 and Canada’s culpability:

More than any other country, Canada is responsible for the impact of the UN on the life of everyday citizens through the UN’s continuing implementation of Socialist One World Order.

Canada not only provided the architect of One World Order in the person of UN Poster Boy Number One Maurice Strong, it, more than any other nation, played the most major role in carrying the banner of the “New World Agenda” into the next century.

In truth, the fight to get out of the UN started soon after 1945. Senator Joseph McCarthy (1908 - 1957) saw the United Nations for what it is:

The following excerpt is taken from a book written by McCarthy's secretary. Here she is describing his opinion of the United Nations:

"... I have been asked, "What did Senator McCarthy think of the United Nations?" For one thing, he was well aware that the U.N. Charter had been drawn up by the Communists, pro-Communists, Socialists and the like. He knew the Charter did not guarantee protection of private property, nor religious freedom, and in fact under the United Nations there is no God. Senator McCarthy suggested that we give Red China our seat in the United Nations, and that would get us out from under the jurisdiction of that dangerous organization."

McCarthy United Nations

I firmly believe that American Communists hated Senator McCarthy for his view of the UN more than they hated him for going after Hollywood Communists. For all practical purposes Hollywood writers and actors were blacklisted in order to protect the United Nations. They were all scapegoated in one of the sweetest public relations con jobs the liberal media and UN traitors ever got away with.

Let’s look the recent environmental fraud time line.

1991 Soviet Union is dissolved. Displaced Communists flock to the UN’s Environmental Movement.

1992 Agenda 21 was formulated.

1997 Congressman Ron Paul introduced HR 1146 for the first time.

Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)​

1997 Dr. James P. Lucier, Sr. presents a comprehensive report about the UN and its goals to The Conservative Caucus Foundation. Lucier’s report includes the UN’s environmental agenda:

THE UNITED NATIONS IS WORLD HEADQUARTERS FOR THE CHURCH OF HUMANISM

The fundamental doctrine that the world should be a global collective, redistributing equal shares to every inhabitant on earth, is not a political idea. It is a religious cult. It replaces faith in the Divine Creator with faith in Humanity. It is the centerpiece of the modern idolatry of Man. The established church of this religion is the United Nations Organization. Its believers have a complicated theology that goes beyond the Organization itself, a way of looking at life, a way of organizing society on all levels, a way of educating and training the next generation. Their concepts of peace enforcement, human rights, population, habitat, and environment are supported by, but do not depend upon the Organization. These people are believers, but they do not believe in God. Their belief is UNbelief, and it is fair to characterize them as the Unbelievers.

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C. The Environmental Treaties

The third kind of UN-inspired treaty has to do with international controls on the global environment. But they are not just about climate, pure water, and the air we breathe. They are about Mother Earth, who folds us all into her bosom. The environmental movement is a resurgence of the fertility religions of ancient paganism. The Globalism of the UNbelievers is personified by the Earth Mother, the Goddess, sometimes called Gaia. Gaia is She Who Must Be Obeyed. The irrationality of the global religion comes to full flower in the doctrine that Man is the most dangerous enemy of the planet.

2007 Manmade global warming takes the lead in United Nations scams.

2009 UN’s manmade global warming fraud exposed in Climategate. (University of East Anglia e-mails.)

One can talk about environmental frauds, UN taxation, non-existent International law, loss of sovereignty, treason, etc. but the question finally comes down to this:

How can Americans make their government withdraw from the United Nations? I don’t know the answer, but let’s start with this:

Ron Paul repeatedly reintroduced HR 1146 since 1997, yet the bill never got a floor vote. That means the House of Representatives never had enough members who thought America’s sovereignty was worth voting for irrespective of which party held the majority. The Senate harbors a nest of traitors and would be worse.

Interestingly, just as the US Constitution does not prohibit secession, there is nothing in the UN Charter that prohibits withdrawal:

WE CAN WITHDRAW IMMEDIATELY​

But none of the treaties under which the constituent parts of the United Nations were established contain perpetuity clauses or duration clauses, so the United States could withdraw at any time. From the standpoint of continuing positive international relationships with other countries, a President might choose to execute an orderly shut-down of the U.S. participation in the United Nations, but there is no enforceable obligation to do so. The United States has every right to quit tomorrow, if it so chooses.

However, in addition to the actual organizations that constitute the United Nations, there are a number of international treaties intended to enforce the regressive ideology of the UNbelievers. United States has never ratified many of these, and cannot ratify them, since they are incompatible with the U.S. Constitution. Others have been ratified, and must be abrogated by the United States if it is to maintain its independence and liberty. These treaties fall into three groups.

Considering the number of people in the federal government who fund and protect the UN, I have to ask if Americans will be forced to fight for the United Nations should a bunch of countries decide to secede? I always hoped the Muslim world would do just that. In 1965 Indonesia did withdraw for a short time. It wasn’t a full-fledged withdrawal. I do not think the New World Order crowd took it seriously; nevertheless, peaceful withdrawal is on the books.

Any attempt to prohibit withdrawal would surely lead to a global conflict. It’s something for young Americans to think about because they will have to do the fighting when the draft is reinstated in order to fight a global war.

NOTE: Just as Union soldiers in America’s Civil War were fighting against their own freedoms, Americans fighting for the United Nations will be fighting against their own country’s independence.

Finally, the UN’s determination to destroy America is a many faceted topic. I’ve posted hundreds of messages over the years and doubt if I fully covered more than two or three urgent reasons for the US to get out of the UN. Not so with Dr. Lucier’s report. It is so informative I pray one or two conservatives will take the time to read it. Even if one is exceptionally well-informed on the topic, I’m absolutely certain they will find a lot to add to their knowledge.

Here are the links to pieces I quoted:

The way past Obama is dismantling the United Nations
Judi McLeod & Doug Hagmann
Monday, December 10, 2012

The way past Obama is dismantling the United Nations

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WITHDRAWING FROM THE UNITED NATIONS
by Dr. James P. Lucier, Sr.
Board Member, The Conservative Caucus, Inc. and Former Minority Staff Director, U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee presented to the Board of Trustees of The Conservative Caucus Foundation October, 1997

http://www.conservativeusa.org/UN100ways.htm

 

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[JakeStarkey]

Flanders has flipped out!

 

[AmyNation]

Agenda 21

 

[freedombecki]

We're still members of the UN. Even so, we don't own the UN, and the UN doesn't "own" other nations. It's a useful tool though, for waging peace on earth, getting food and medicine to victims of hunger, pestilence, and disaster, and coordinating international peace efforts in averting genocide and hopefully making the world a better place through negotiating over the bargaining table to yield as many win-wins as possible.

No, everybody doesn't see things our way. But we just have to do our best as we are able.

 

[mjollnir]

 

[bestlink101]

divided states of America ftw

 

[Mad Scientist]

Agenda 21

I know! Who the f*ck believes that sh*t?

Oh wait, what's this?:

Agenda 21 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know you Liberal/Communists would NEVER listen to any thing I say because I'm a Libertarian but all you Authoritarian/Commies should look at this:

DEMOCRATS  AGAINST  U. N.  AGENDA  21 - OK, So what is Agenda 21? And why should I care? Part 1

 

[freedombecki]

Agenda 21

I know! Who the f*ck believes that sh*t?

Oh wait, what's this?:

Agenda 21 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know you Liberal/Communists would NEVER listen to any thing I say because I'm a Libertarian but all you Authoritarian/Commies should look at this:

DEMOCRATS* AGAINST* U. N.* AGENDA* 21 - OK, So what is Agenda 21? And why should I care? Part 1

You're right, Agenda 21 is a problem for Americans who seek or who have earned the American Dream.

Agenda 21 has hidden targets, namely private ownership of land and properties, according to this: Is the Soros-Sponsored 'Agenda 21' a Hidden Plan for World Government? (Yes, Only It Is Not Hidden).

 

[midcan5]

Why is a democratic republic so hard for people to accept? Your side lost get over it. Grow up. The American people have spoken and they want progress, they want a government that lives up to the preamble of this nation.

Lecture Notes | American Political Thought | Political Science | MIT OpenCourseWare

 

[onecut39]

Agenda 21

I know! Who the f*ck believes that sh*t?

Oh wait, what's this?:

Agenda 21 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know you Liberal/Communists would NEVER listen to any thing I say because I'm a Libertarian but all you Authoritarian/Commies should look at this:

DEMOCRATS* AGAINST* U. N.* AGENDA* 21 - OK, So what is Agenda 21? And why should I care? Part 1

Be afraid, be very afraid.............
From the Wikipedia article cited:

"Agenda 21 is a non-binding, voluntarily implemented action plan of the United Nations with regard to sustainable development

Scary stuff!!!! (chuckle)