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Wisconsin politicians face specter of fresh recall votes | Reuters
(Reuters) - Republican Governor Scott Walker could headline a cast of Wisconsin lawmakers who may be fighting for their political lives in a sequel next year to last summer's historic state recall elections.
As many as 17 state senators, along with Walker and Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch, could face recall battles next summer if activists succeed in efforts to force such votes, according to the state's government accountability board.
DUMMIES!
Wisconsin politicians face specter of fresh recall votes | Reuters
(Reuters) - Republican Governor Scott Walker could headline a cast of Wisconsin lawmakers who may be fighting for their political lives in a sequel next year to last summer's historic state recall elections.
As many as 17 state senators, along with Walker and Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch, could face recall battles next summer if activists succeed in efforts to force such votes, according to the state's government accountability board.
The idea that recalls are only to be used in situations involving 'criminal' activity is a retarded red herring.
But whatcha gonna do?
How is it a red herring? When was the last time a recall process in any state used for purely political reasons? California is one, where are the others?
Perpetual recalls are a dumb idea, and that is exactly what is going to happen, with each side trying to recall the other side, thus creating a contiuous campaign enviroment, to the detriment of actual governance.
Wisconsin politicians face specter of fresh recall votes | Reuters
(Reuters) - Republican Governor Scott Walker could headline a cast of Wisconsin lawmakers who may be fighting for their political lives in a sequel next year to last summer's historic state recall elections.
As many as 17 state senators, along with Walker and Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch, could face recall battles next summer if activists succeed in efforts to force such votes, according to the state's government accountability board.
Pie Jesu Domini, Donna ejus requiem.
The idea that recalls are only to be used in situations involving 'criminal' activity is a retarded red herring.
But whatcha gonna do?
How is it a red herring? When was the last time a recall process in any state used for purely political reasons? California is one, where are the others?
Perpetual recalls are a dumb idea, and that is exactly what is going to happen, with each side trying to recall the other side, thus creating a contiuous campaign enviroment, to the detriment of actual governance.
You're seemingly ignoring the very large hurdles that must be cleared in order for a recall election to happen. If the people feel strongly enough, then why shouldn't they be allowed?
Wisconsin politicians face specter of fresh recall votes | Reuters
(Reuters) - Republican Governor Scott Walker could headline a cast of Wisconsin lawmakers who may be fighting for their political lives in a sequel next year to last summer's historic state recall elections.
As many as 17 state senators, along with Walker and Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch, could face recall battles next summer if activists succeed in efforts to force such votes, according to the state's government accountability board.
Wisconsin citizens deserve a radical like Scott Walker for electing him in the first place. Now that they realize they made a big mistake, they want to undo it with a Recall of him. If they had realized initially he was a radical to begin with, none of this would be an issue
How is it a red herring? When was the last time a recall process in any state used for purely political reasons? California is one, where are the others?
Perpetual recalls are a dumb idea, and that is exactly what is going to happen, with each side trying to recall the other side, thus creating a contiuous campaign enviroment, to the detriment of actual governance.
You're seemingly ignoring the very large hurdles that must be cleared in order for a recall election to happen. If the people feel strongly enough, then why shouldn't they be allowed?
Because, again, it creates a constant state of election campaigning, reducing the effectiveness of government, because the elected officials have to waste time running for office more than the office requires it.
With current political machines, the "large hurdles" are not really that hard, espeically when out of state organizations champion the cause.
You're seemingly ignoring the very large hurdles that must be cleared in order for a recall election to happen. If the people feel strongly enough, then why shouldn't they be allowed?
Because, again, it creates a constant state of election campaigning, reducing the effectiveness of government, because the elected officials have to waste time running for office more than the office requires it.
With current political machines, the "large hurdles" are not really that hard, espeically when out of state organizations champion the cause.
So you have zero faith in the people.
Do you even believe in representative democracy at all?
So basically in wisconsin politicans have to be in campaign mode all of the time. Recall is supposed to be the option of last resort, for getting rid of a politican who does something bordering on criminal.
That's pretty much the case here. We have a very unusual situation arising from the 2010 election, in which the GOP made huge gains but with the votes of only a little more than 20% of the electorate (a slim majority out of 41% voter turnout). The Republicans acted as if they had a mandate for radical change in some states and pushed through measures that were fiercely opposed by a majority of the people. (They behaved the same in DC, but with control of only one house of Congress they couldn't do as much.)
This isn't going to become SOP and it's not purely partisan politics. It's a popular reaction to a radical right-wing agenda that most people never voted for.
No, it's not, dumbass. It's about a state that is in serious financial problems because of the filthy unions bleeding it dry, and voters here wanting someone to do something about it, which Walker did, and the measures he took were NOT "fiercly opposed" by ANY "majority." The "majority" ELECTED Walker, and he DID what we ELECTED HIM TO DO. Gee, imagine that. And yes it was a fucking MANDATE, to wrestle power away from the sons a bitchin' Wisconsin socialists and union thugs who strangled anyone in a union job for money without a choice which they in turn then gave to democrats to get them elected so they could continue their filthy ponzi scheme robbing the tax payers of Wisconsin and bleeding the state dry. You bet we're sick of that SHIT here in Wisconsin, and we're behind Walker 110 fucking percent.
Because, again, it creates a constant state of election campaigning, reducing the effectiveness of government, because the elected officials have to waste time running for office more than the office requires it.
With current political machines, the "large hurdles" are not really that hard, espeically when out of state organizations champion the cause.
So you have zero faith in the people.
Do you even believe in representative democracy at all?
Nice weasel statement at the end.
What i oppose is a recall system being used for pure partisan reasons, not for any malfesence. If you want the governor to come up for election every year, make the election every year. Recalls should be a last resort, not some cheap political move.
Elections are supposed to have consequences, and once over, those elected should be able to govern without the distraction of another election, until thier offical term is up, or they do something criminal.
That's pretty much the case here. We have a very unusual situation arising from the 2010 election, in which the GOP made huge gains but with the votes of only a little more than 20% of the electorate (a slim majority out of 41% voter turnout). The Republicans acted as if they had a mandate for radical change in some states and pushed through measures that were fiercely opposed by a majority of the people. (They behaved the same in DC, but with control of only one house of Congress they couldn't do as much.)
This isn't going to become SOP and it's not purely partisan politics. It's a popular reaction to a radical right-wing agenda that most people never voted for.
No, it's not, dumbass. It's about a state that is in serious financial problems because of the filthy unions bleeding it dry, and voters here wanting someone to do something about it, which Walker did, and the measures he took were NOT "fiercly opposed" by ANY "majority." The "majority" ELECTED Walker, and he DID what we ELECTED HIM TO DO. Gee, imagine that. And yes it was a fucking MANDATE, to wrestle power away from the sons a bitchin' Wisconsin socialists and union thugs who strangled anyone in a union job for money without a choice which they in turn then gave to democrats to get them elected so they could continue their filthy ponzi scheme robbing the tax payers of Wisconsin and bleeding the state dry. You bet we're sick of that SHIT here in Wisconsin, and we're behind Walker 110 fucking percent.
Hmmmm.....let's ask Scott walker how much money his attack on your state employees is going to save?
Walker admits during testimony that collective bargaining law doesn't save money
VIDEO: WI Gov. Scott Walker Admits that Stripping Collective Bargaining Rights of Workers
Imagine That! Scott Walker Admits Eliminating Collective Bargaining Does NOT Save Money | IntoxiNation - Ramblings On Politics, Society And News
Walker Admits Stripping Collective Bargaining Rights Doesn't Save Money | Politics Report
Sounds to me like he lied his ass off to you and the voters. But that's just me.
So basically in wisconsin politicans have to be in campaign mode all of the time. Recall is supposed to be the option of last resort, for getting rid of a politican who does something bordering on criminal.
That's pretty much the case here. We have a very unusual situation arising from the 2010 election, in which the GOP made huge gains but with the votes of only a little more than 20% of the electorate (a slim majority out of 41% voter turnout). The Republicans acted as if they had a mandate for radical change in some states and pushed through measures that were fiercely opposed by a majority of the people. (They behaved the same in DC, but with control of only one house of Congress they couldn't do as much.)
This isn't going to become SOP and it's not purely partisan politics. It's a popular reaction to a radical right-wing agenda that most people never voted for.
I saw a recall Walker bumper sticker on a run down, rusty, POS little pick up yesterday in a parking lot. I kicked in his window and slit his tires. Felt just like I was part of the OWS crowd.
The Republicans acted as if they had a mandate for radical change in some states and pushed through measures that were fiercely opposed by a majority of the people..
I saw a recall Walker bumper sticker on a run down, rusty, POS little pick up yesterday in a parking lot. I kicked in his window and slit his tires. Felt just like I was part of the OWS crowd.
Wow! You are a douchbag
How is it a red herring? When was the last time a recall process in any state used for purely political reasons? California is one, where are the others?
Perpetual recalls are a dumb idea, and that is exactly what is going to happen, with each side trying to recall the other side, thus creating a contiuous campaign enviroment, to the detriment of actual governance.
You're seemingly ignoring the very large hurdles that must be cleared in order for a recall election to happen. If the people feel strongly enough, then why shouldn't they be allowed?
Because, again, it creates a constant state of election campaigning, reducing the effectiveness of government, because the elected officials have to waste time running for office more than the office requires it.
With current political machines, the "large hurdles" are not really that hard, espeically when out of state organizations champion the cause.
I saw a recall Walker bumper sticker on a run down, rusty, POS little pick up yesterday in a parking lot. I kicked in his window and slit his tires. Felt just like I was part of the OWS crowd.
Wow! You are a douchbag
He's definitely a douchebag. But you don't actually believe him do you?
I highly doubt Walker will be recalled. The Democratic Party and left wing activists spent over $30 million dollars on those recall elections and all they managed to do was oust a Republican in a heavily Democratic district who in any year other than 2010 probably wouldn't have won the seat to begin with and another who was embroiled in scandal. Ultimately, they still failed to retake the State Senate despite spending far more than most U.S. Senate races. Come next summer any remaining angst over Wisconsin's new public union laws will not be enough to pull Walker out of office, particularly with the presidential election coming up.
