Wisconsin Collective Bargaining Law is Working

[daveman]

Yes. All teachers are overpaid and underworked and should be crucified. I would bet that alot of you would like all first borns of public school teachers killed. I would bet my life on it.

You lose. Jump off a bridge.

 

[daveman]

Nope. Just espousing the truth. America has a vendetta against teachers. Must be the summers off. Those that are critical could never handle a classroom full of roudy american children of which a large percentage are unruly because american parenting nowadays is garbage.

"Most kids cannot read, write, or spell much less compose a cogent paragraph. "

You're right. Points to total lack of parenting at home.

Did you learn writing, spelling, grammar, punctuation, and capitalization in public school?

 

[mmmjvpssm]

Ok, for the really slow here, and there does seem to be a few. When you have a public job and your employer is the gubmint, and you get your paycheck. That money you have isn't "taxpayer money" It's your money. You worked for it and you earned it

 

[daveman]

Ok, for the really slow here, and there does seem to be a few. When you have a public job and your employer is the gubmint, and you get your paycheck. That money you have isn't "taxpayer money" It's your money. You worked for it and you earned it

Funny how that doesn't seem to apply to rich people though, does it?

 

[bripat9643]

Ok, for the really slow here, and there does seem to be a few. When you have a public job and your employer is the gubmint, and you get your paycheck. That money you have isn't "taxpayer money" It's your money. You worked for it and you earned it

Actually, not. You earn something when you obtain if through voluntary exchange, trading value for value. Government employees obtain their filthy lucre via compulsion, just like thieves and armed robbers.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Public Unions really are just a huge racket in the end. A racket that only helps the greedy Unions and Democrats. It's the Taxpayer who always loses. Nothing but shakedowns at this point. Big changes need to be made. I see no benefit for Taxpayers in this Government Union scam.

 

[Moonglow]

Public Unions really are just a huge racket in the end. A racket that only helps the greedy Unions and Democrats. It's the Taxpayer who always loses. Nothing but shakedowns at this point. Big changes need to be made. I see no benefit for Taxpayers in this Government Union scam.

unions used to back republicans, they backed one of their own Ronny Raygun, so try to see things in perspective.
the unions time to expire maybe well at hand, but they have allowed for a better workplace than before they were there.

 

[DaGoose]

Ok, for the really slow here, and there does seem to be a few. When you have a public job and your employer is the gubmint, and you get your paycheck. That money you have isn't "taxpayer money" It's your money. You worked for it and you earned it

Funny how that doesn't seem to apply to rich people though, does it?

And funny how average workers pay a much higher percentage of their income to taxes.

Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary - Times Online

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[DaGoose]

Public Unions only suck up to the Democrats and anal-rape the Taxpayers. They're not the good guy. They never want to compromise on anything. Why should all Taxpayers have to fund their Democrat Butt-Sniffing and Taxpayer assaults? Let the Democratic Party fund them. All Taxpayers shouldn't be forced to. Fuck em.

They work for you. They earned their pay. Now pay the poor bastards.

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[DaGoose]

What kind of accountability do you see in the private sector for teachers?

What happens in a private school when Johnny gets F's?

Does the teacher get fired?

Not if Johnny's parents lets him run around all hours, show up late for school, don't care if he does his homework and doesn't get involved whatsoever in his schooling.

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[DaGoose]

Another bullshit attack the unions thread. Tired broken fucking record. I know, let's give more tax breaks to the rich and cut more benefits for teachers, firemen and police. That always works out right? Education improves?

Cry me a fucking river...

Most folks don't care what private sector unoins do, it's the public sector ones that suck...

You want us to show sympathy for what is tantamount to a fucking money laundering scheme for democratics? Union money coming from the taxpayer going to fat cat leftist politicians who rubber stamp anything they fucking want in "negotiations" for sweetheart deals and Cadillac health plans?

When they start caring about their members and not the hoards of taxpayer cash they rake in only to piss it away on lobbying to leftists and increasing the boated bossman salaries, then maybe we'll show sympathy to the poor fucking public sector unions...

Until then, fuck them...

Ok....so now we will see explosive improvement in students grades, right? If not then I say your little experiment FAILED.
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[daveman]

Ok, for the really slow here, and there does seem to be a few. When you have a public job and your employer is the gubmint, and you get your paycheck. That money you have isn't "taxpayer money" It's your money. You worked for it and you earned it

Funny how that doesn't seem to apply to rich people though, does it?

And funny how average workers pay a much higher percentage of their income to taxes.

Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary - Times Online

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That's been shown to be bullshit. And why are you kissing a rich man's ass, anyway?

 

[DaGoose]

Publc Unions obviously benefit from fucking Taxpayers over. So why would they stop doing it? It's a System failure. They constantly demand more & more and then wont even budge when Taxpayers demand some accountability. I have no sympathy for Public Teacher Unions especially. They fight tooth & nail against any requests for accountability. They seem to conveniently forget that they actually work for us the Taxpayer. It's not the other way around. I think many Americans are just sick of them trying to have everything their way. You can't constantly demand more from Taxpayers and then tell em "Fuck You" over & over again. Many have had it with that mentality. It's the Public Unions who don't want to compromise. It's not the Taxpayers. If it was up to me i would have all Public Unions abolished immediately. They are just plain bad for America.

Ok, now you can stop pretending to know what Americans want. Because it's obvious you don't have a clue.

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/05/walkers-numbers-continue-to-get-worse.html

PPP poll in WI: Walker has turned GOP union voters into Democratic union voters

The Plum Line - Dem poll: Republicans turning on Scott Walker

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[DaGoose]

Funny how that doesn't seem to apply to rich people though, does it?

And funny how average workers pay a much higher percentage of their income to taxes.

Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary - Times Online

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That's been shown to be bullshit. And why are you kissing a rich man's ass, anyway?

That's a good question. Maybe it's because he tells the truth.

Maybe we should devote a thread as to why the "new breed of conservatives" kiss the rich man's ass?

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[logical4u]

On the other hand, my Governor, DEMOCRAT Andrew Cuomo, NEGOTIATED concessions from the unions, without destroying them, got a good deal, got the budget in order,

and has a 60% approval rating.

But nobody talks about him.

Sean Hannity praised him for his "budgeting skills". Does this mean you won't like him, now?

 

[daveman]

And funny how average workers pay a much higher percentage of their income to taxes.

Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary - Times Online

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That's been shown to be bullshit. And why are you kissing a rich man's ass, anyway?

That's a good question. Maybe it's because he tells the truth.

Maybe we should devote a thread as to why the "new breed of conservatives" kiss the rich man's ass?

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Why Buffett pays less than his secretary - Conor Clarke - Politics - The Atlantic

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You mean when we cut the pay to teachers, we can pay them less?

Wow. What a revelation.

WaAAahahhh WAaaahhh Waaaah!

It worked, get over it. The Unions were part of the problem and now they will never be again. Also money being stolen from tax payers to be donated (68milion to Obama in 2008) is over.

The only thing that "worked" is that the state and local districts are trying to balance their budgets on the backs of the working men and women.

It is a nice change now that state and local districts have that option, instead of only trying to balance their budgets on the backs of the working men and women who pay the taxes that pay the salaries of the teachers and administrators.

 

[logical4u]

Nope. Just espousing the truth. America has a vendetta against teachers. Must be the summers off. Those that are critical could never handle a classroom full of roudy american children of which a large percentage are unruly because american parenting nowadays is garbage.

"Most kids cannot read, write, or spell much less compose a cogent paragraph. "

You're right. Points to total lack of parenting at home.

I don't believe most Americans really hate all teachers (but unfortunately, most have had confrontations with classroom dictators). I think what bothers most Americans is the "education system" is always crying for more money and for taxes to be raised "for the children". The results of more money is the teachers get a few pennies raise and the administration for the "education system" are stealing 6 figure salaries, while the teachers are trying to make ends meet, and "do more with less".

I don't think one taxpayer (that isn't in education administration) would mind at all, if the top two or three layers of the "education system" was simply, fired. That would be more money "for the children" and having funds available for "efficient" teachers.

 

[DaGoose]

That's been shown to be bullshit. And why are you kissing a rich man's ass, anyway?

That's a good question. Maybe it's because he tells the truth.

Maybe we should devote a thread as to why the "new breed of conservatives" kiss the rich man's ass?

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Why Buffett pays less than his secretary - Conor Clarke - Politics - The Atlantic

But he paid less percentage in taxes, right?

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[DaGoose]

WaAAahahhh WAaaahhh Waaaah!

It worked, get over it. The Unions were part of the problem and now they will never be again. Also money being stolen from tax payers to be donated (68milion to Obama in 2008) is over.

The only thing that "worked" is that the state and local districts are trying to balance their budgets on the backs of the working men and women.

It is a nice change now that state and local districts have that option, instead of only trying to balance their budgets on the backs of the working men and women who pay the taxes that pay the salaries of the teachers and administrators.

Uhhh....it's the "working men and women" that drive the polls showing no support for Walker and his cronies.

PPP poll in WI: Walker has turned GOP union voters into Democratic union voters

Public Policy Polling: Walker's numbers continue to get worse

REAL "working men and women" understand what it's like to struggle and agree that teachers are getting fucked.

So don't pretend that you know what "working men and women" want or that you even care about them. It sickens us.

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