Winningest General?

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    Today, April 27th, is the birthday of the only general to force the unconditional surrender of three armies!

    No other American general has done that.

    Was it Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas MacArthur, George Washington or Winfield Scott?


    None of 'em.


    He was appointed Secretary of War.....turned around and gave the appointment back to the original holder of the office.



    Who was it?
     
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    The man who fought a losing battle with cancer to complete his memoirs, so that he could leave an inheritance to his family.........

    ....Ulysses S. Grant.
     
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    Eisenhower and Grant were the only two West Point graduates to become president, and neither had ever been elected to any public office.
     
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    What 3 armies did Grant force into unconditional surrender?
     
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    Yep, and FDR used the same phrase during WWII and now it has been questioned as prolonging the war with Japan. By the way, Grant was also called "butcher Grant" because of his tactics.
     
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    The victors write the history books. If a general is willing to sacrifice unlimited troops he can overwhelm any enemy force but at a terrible cost to his own side. I would argue that the smartest general in US history was Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson.
     
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    My take on generals is that most can do a good job if put into the right slot or command. Ike was given his job because of his diplomatic ability. To coordinate all the nations took a great deal of diplomacy. Patton was a great fighting general he was in the right slot but to put Patton in Ike's slot would have been a blunder. Lincoln had a real problem finding the right general. Those generals in the wrong slot cost America, but fortunately by the time one is a general and a war arises, most of the West Pointers knew the other officers weaknesses and strengths.
     
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    Like I said, "the victors write the history books". There were strong rumors about Grant's dependence on alcohol but pop-history dismisses the allegations for obvious reasons. Grant ordered his Troops to "make waste" to the South and apparently the Union Army considered the order to be authorization for atrocity. Grant sanctioned his army to commit atrocities that modern commanders would be hanged for. Incidentally his political administration is considered by honest historians to be the most corrupt in US history.
     
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