Unable to answer the hard question the liberal replies with meaningless question.
Wind Turbines performed better 300 years ago
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Unable to answer the hard question the liberal replies with meaningless question.
Old Rocks
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/b...-win-on-price-vs-conventional-fuels.html?_r=0
And, also in Oklahoma, American Electric Power ended up tripling the amount of wind power it had originally sought after seeing how low the bids came in last year.
“Wind was on sale — it was a Blue Light Special,” said Jay Godfrey, managing director of renewable energy for the company. He noted that Oklahoma, unlike many states, did not require utilities to buy power from renewable sources.
In ultra-liberal Oklahoma they really like wind.
And, also in Oklahoma, American Electric Power ended up tripling the amount of wind power it had originally sought after seeing how low the bids came in last year.
“Wind was on sale — it was a Blue Light Special,” said Jay Godfrey, managing director of renewable energy for the company. He noted that Oklahoma, unlike many states, did not require utilities to buy power from renewable sources.
In ultra-liberal Oklahoma they really like wind.
What agency does one pay to get them to force the wind to blow when it doesn't want to?
Old Rocks
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Meaningless? Unsubsidized wind, 3.7 cents a kilowatt, dirty coal, 6.6 cents a kilowatt.
Once again the question was too hard.
But I'll play your game. What's the price of unsubsidized wind generated electricity on days when there's no wind? What's the price of unsubsidized (OK, a non-existing form) solar electricity on overcast days?
Old Rocks
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Henry, old boy, the grid scale batteries will take care of that. And solar produces electricity on overcast days, just not as much.
We have less than a 100 nuclear power plants, we have 1,000,000 wind turbines and its said we must build wind turbines continuous, forever.I had a funny thought. It is now apparent that despite all the improvements in Wind Turbine design, the improvements are insignificant.
In the past a Windmill could and did grind the Flour for an entire village.
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It is amazing, that today, Wind Power is no longer capable of providing power to the wheat milling industry, to make flour, not even for a small town.
We need more wind turbines and we need to figure out how to harness photosynthesis. Live like avatar. Planes fly on nuclear power.
Enough is enough, of Obsolete Go Nowhere Technology.
We need to improve battery cars more turbines off the east and west coast and only do coal oil or nuke as little as possible. Tesla believed we could harness the energy of the earth. Its spinning fast thru space and really hot in the middle. Solar more too.
For one sunless or windless day maybe grid size batteries might carry the load.
Comes day two....or three.....better fire up those coal plants to charge them batteries. Or hunker down with the computer shut down once the laptop or tablet batteries have given their all.
But that's why liberals are buying rats and spinney cages. It doesn't take much to keep a tablet spewing.
Comes day two....or three.....better fire up those coal plants to charge them batteries. Or hunker down with the computer shut down once the laptop or tablet batteries have given their all.
But that's why liberals are buying rats and spinney cages. It doesn't take much to keep a tablet spewing.
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I had a funny thought. It is now apparent that despite all the improvements in Wind Turbine design, the improvements are insignificant.
In the past a Windmill could and did grind the Flour for an entire village.
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It is amazing, that today, Wind Power is no longer capable of providing power to the wheat milling industry, to make flour, not even for a small town.
Populations were much smaller back then, so it's not a fair comparison.
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It is a fair comparison, Roller Mills are much smaller today, much more efficient, require literally less power than 300 years ago, even with those advantages you can not power a Roller Mill with electricity from a Wind Turbine, nor a Wind Farm.Populations were much smaller back then, so it's not a fair comparison.I had a funny thought. It is now apparent that despite all the improvements in Wind Turbine design, the improvements are insignificant.
In the past a Windmill could and did grind the Flour for an entire village.
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It is amazing, that today, Wind Power is no longer capable of providing power to the wheat milling industry, to make flour, not even for a small town.
Not fair? What is not fair is these monstrosities are nothing more than Tyranny, kind of the same as when the King forced us to pay tax on tea, at that we did not want.
A fair comparison, in the past the burden of food production was great and was much of it was accomplished with a Wind Mill in Europe, here in the USA I understand that we used Water Wheel Mills.
In Europe a man worked 9 months of the year to earn the wheat he needed to feed his family, literally. Meat was a luxury, flour for bread was a mans sustenance.
Modern advancements in the production of electricity removed much of the burden of that 9 months of work required to produce wheat for flour for bread. Think of God given right's to bread, as in we ate bread because its written in the Bible. I speak before the era of the potato.
So know with our move to Green Energy in the form of Wind Power, our rates we pay for electricity is literally seen in the cost of our food. I have never seen Bread so expensive in my life. A simple loaf of Bread is 2.50$.
Fair comparisons? One Wind Turbine today can not do the work of one Wind Mill of the past, what is not fair about that comparison? A simple Rolling Mill does not require that much electricity.
300 years ago, I bet there were weeks they wished they had wind, hence when something better came along the old Wind Mills were replaced. Now, here in California, we are waiting for the wind to blow, just not to hard, and not soft, we need it to blow just right so we can have our "bread".
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You can not power down Coal Plants, Solar and Wind Power both need a constant source of power simply to operate.
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It is a fair comparison, Roller Mills are much smaller today, much more efficient, require literally less power than 300 years ago, even with those advantages you can not power a Roller Mill with electricity from a Wind Turbine, nor a Wind Farm.Populations were much smaller back then, so it's not a fair comparison.I had a funny thought. It is now apparent that despite all the improvements in Wind Turbine design, the improvements are insignificant.
In the past a Windmill could and did grind the Flour for an entire village.
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It is amazing, that today, Wind Power is no longer capable of providing power to the wheat milling industry, to make flour, not even for a small town.
Not fair? What is not fair is these monstrosities are nothing more than Tyranny, kind of the same as when the King forced us to pay tax on tea, at that we did not want.
A fair comparison, in the past the burden of food production was great and was much of it was accomplished with a Wind Mill in Europe, here in the USA I understand that we used Water Wheel Mills.
In Europe a man worked 9 months of the year to earn the wheat he needed to feed his family, literally. Meat was a luxury, flour for bread was a mans sustenance.
Modern advancements in the production of electricity removed much of the burden of that 9 months of work required to produce wheat for flour for bread. Think of God given right's to bread, as in we ate bread because its written in the Bible. I speak before the era of the potato.
So know with our move to Green Energy in the form of Wind Power, our rates we pay for electricity is literally seen in the cost of our food. I have never seen Bread so expensive in my life. A simple loaf of Bread is 2.50$.
Fair comparisons? One Wind Turbine today can not do the work of one Wind Mill of the past, what is not fair about that comparison? A simple Rolling Mill does not require that much electricity.
300 years ago, I bet there were weeks they wished they had wind, hence when something better came along the old Wind Mills were replaced. Now, here in California, we are waiting for the wind to blow, just not to hard, and not soft, we need it to blow just right so we can have our "bread".
The modern wheat mill is not producing wheat for a village. Rather they are producing wheat for a whole country (or more). They are processing orders of magnitude more material than the windmills of old. Further, the windmills of old likewise didn't work when the wind wasn't blowing. As I said, it's a cute comparison, but it doesn't work for the aforementioned reasons.
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So many Wheat Mills in the World.It is a fair comparison, Roller Mills are much smaller today, much more efficient, require literally less power than 300 years ago, even with those advantages you can not power a Roller Mill with electricity from a Wind Turbine, nor a Wind Farm.Populations were much smaller back then, so it's not a fair comparison.I had a funny thought. It is now apparent that despite all the improvements in Wind Turbine design, the improvements are insignificant.
In the past a Windmill could and did grind the Flour for an entire village.
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It is amazing, that today, Wind Power is no longer capable of providing power to the wheat milling industry, to make flour, not even for a small town.
Not fair? What is not fair is these monstrosities are nothing more than Tyranny, kind of the same as when the King forced us to pay tax on tea, at that we did not want.
A fair comparison, in the past the burden of food production was great and was much of it was accomplished with a Wind Mill in Europe, here in the USA I understand that we used Water Wheel Mills.
In Europe a man worked 9 months of the year to earn the wheat he needed to feed his family, literally. Meat was a luxury, flour for bread was a mans sustenance.
Modern advancements in the production of electricity removed much of the burden of that 9 months of work required to produce wheat for flour for bread. Think of God given right's to bread, as in we ate bread because its written in the Bible. I speak before the era of the potato.
So know with our move to Green Energy in the form of Wind Power, our rates we pay for electricity is literally seen in the cost of our food. I have never seen Bread so expensive in my life. A simple loaf of Bread is 2.50$.
Fair comparisons? One Wind Turbine today can not do the work of one Wind Mill of the past, what is not fair about that comparison? A simple Rolling Mill does not require that much electricity.
300 years ago, I bet there were weeks they wished they had wind, hence when something better came along the old Wind Mills were replaced. Now, here in California, we are waiting for the wind to blow, just not to hard, and not soft, we need it to blow just right so we can have our "bread".
The modern wheat mill is not producing wheat for a village. Rather they are producing wheat for a whole country (or more). They are processing orders of magnitude more material than the windmills of old. Further, the windmills of old likewise didn't work when the wind wasn't blowing. As I said, it's a cute comparison, but it doesn't work for the aforementioned reasons.
Are you stating that all Wheat Mill's produce for entire Nations? That there are no small Mills in operation.
Sunrise Flour mill disagrees with you, as do many other small flour mills.
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