William F. Buckley Jr. Dies at 82

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    William F. Buckley Jr., the erudite Ivy Leaguer and conservative herald who showered huge and scornful words on liberalism as he observed, abetted and cheered on the right's post-World War II rise from the fringes to the White House, died Wednesday. He was 82.

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    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080227/D8V2P9PG0.html


    Jack Kerouac on firing line
    Remember, Jack was NOT a hippy.
    http://faculty.uml.edu/sgallagher/Buckley.html


    Allen Ginsberg Sings on Firing Line
    krikey.. i'd have been wierded out by a bearded, bald guy chanting goofy eastern mantras too...
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    RIP, WFB.
     
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    Buckley was the Howard Cosell of conservatism, joking, he was best when he had a guest he could corner into confusion. I watched Mary McCarthy beat him up once. But compared to the conservative spokespeople of today he was a real gentleman. This Chomsky piece was interesting I thought.

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    Another bravo to Bill - he changed his mind on Iraq. I am impressed.
     
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    RIP

    I loved Buckley. He was brilliant.
     
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    Because REAL conservatism doesn't require you to toe the party line.
     
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    He came before what Dean calls "Conservatives Without Conscience."

    It was more a time when you could hold opposite political opinions without being personnally attacked or called a traitor.

    What a concept. Argue based on content and not personality.
     
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    Agreed.


    It is also worth noting, that Buckley was not necessarily opposed to US involvement in Iraq, but instead was very much opposed to the manner it was being fought up until the past year.
     
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    AH, as a one-time Buckley admirer turned skeptic about this man's supposed 'conservatism,' I'm curious: do you consider yourself a conservative?
     
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    ""I think Mr. Bush faces a singular problem best defined, I think, as the absence of effective conservative ideology — with the result that he ended up being very extravagant in domestic spending, extremely tolerant of excesses by Congress," Buckley says. "And in respect of foreign policy, incapable of bringing together such forces as apparently were necessary to conclude the Iraq challenge."

    Asked what President Bush's foreign policy legacy will be to his successor, Buckley says "There will be no legacy for Mr. Bush. I don't believe his successor would re-enunciate the words he used in his second inaugural address because they were too ambitious. So therefore I think his legacy is indecipherable""

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/22/eveningnews/main1826838.shtml


    ""But beyond affirming executive supremacy in matters of war, what is George Bush going to do? It is simply untrue that we are making decisive progress in Iraq. The indicators rise and fall from day to day, week to week, month to month. In South Vietnam there was an organized enemy. There is clearly organization in the strikes by the terrorists against our forces and against the civil government in Iraq, but whereas in Vietnam we had Hanoi as the operative headquarters of the enemy, we have no equivalent of that in Iraq, and that is a matter of paralyzing importance. All those bombings, explosions, assassinations: we are driven to believe that they are, so to speak, spontaneous." WB

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWZjMDBlZDg2MDlmMDM4MmE1MGFmNjlkOTE5OWVkOTc=
     
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    too bad there are so few conservatives in this country anymore, eh?
     

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