Will the Palis step up to the plate?

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    I think overall that Obama made sense when he repeated what is basically Bill Clinton's original suggestion that Israel needs to base its borders on what existed in 1967 with mutually agreed upon land swaps.

    Israel needs clearly defined borders before any other problems are solved.

    I think Netanyahu will eventually come around to this line of reasoning.

    But what of the Palis? Will they continue to push for the destruction of Israel? Or will they act like grown ups and do what is in the best interest of their future generations?

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    Well from what I hear they are now saying the 1967 borders are not enough.
     
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    The Palis will always be a violent and hateful people
     
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    The borders are not the issue. Everyone is agreeing to the same formulation. Land swaps, border close to the June 1, 1967 lines.

    The problem Obama made was making this the first requirement. Israel is angry because Security comes first, the Arabs are upset because he does not address the issue of Right of Return.

    Neither side is going to budge on what, to them, is the big issue. The Palestinians want 100% right of return of all properties before they even begin to negotiate. The Israelis are saying, no way in hell.

    The border issue is the very last item on either party's agenda. Maybe after debating the color of ink in the pens at the signing. Maybe before.
     
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    The right of return means Israel basically has to give everything back right?
     
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    That would be Hamas making that statement. The Palis need to purge Hamas.
     
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    I agree 100%.
     
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    Not really. But the "right of return" is just as ridiculous as reparations for blacks in this country or giving America back to the Natives.

    Some things are just not going to happen.

    But those things cannot be addressed until borders are agreed upon.
     
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    It's not the Palis anymore, it's Hamas. A terror group backed by Iran.

    Yes. It's in thier charter. The PLO got Israel to trade land for peace once before. Then they kept on fighting, encouraged by what they had done to make Israel smaller.
    They think destroying Israel is in the best intrest of thier childrens future, no matter how many of them have to kill themselves.
     
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    They are the same
     

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