Will the GOP's rising stars save the party?

Yup! it certainly was the opposite, I recall the two RINOs.... President McCain and President Romney saying that after they were elected.

I don't recall any radical conservatives even making it out of the GOP primary. How has that worked out for you?

And there lies the problem. When your view of what a Republican is becomes so far out of whack from rationality, actual conservatives become liberals. Once the party comes back to the real world, perhaps we can finally understand that the real RINOs are the extremists. Until then, it will just become more and more marginalized and less and less relevant.


First to RW, who said nominate a far right winger? Personally they need someone who is loyal to the Constitution and who will also be empathetic enough to know that you have to temper conservatism with compassion and logic.

Those that are making claims that there's a "new" America may be in for a shock come the next election cycle. Americans are still conservative to moderate...not far left... like some of the loons here.

Romney didn't motivate enough Republicans to turn out...that simple. Even with the Hispanic vote trending to Obama, Romney could have won with a better ground game.

Bush won enough of the Hispanic vote.

As I said earlier, Hispanics are very much like the immigrants of the early part of the last century. Most want to work and make a decent living and be rewarded for their hard work. They are religious and want to assimilate.

The Republicans need a real workable immigration plan. Self-deportation is idiotic. Expecting to round up and deport those illegals still here is just as insane. We do need to stop the wandering right in idea and this nonsensical advertising food stamps on Mexican televsion trying to lure them here simply for their vote.


The GOP is far from dead and nowhere near the dire straights that the media is intentionally propagating.

And before someone brings up Jindal keep in mind he's a politican and as such is going to pander like others who have an eye on the Presidency. It's why he jumped on the GOP revitalization bandwagon.
 
Grampa, the haters can't stay. Listen to Jindall, Martinez, Barbour, Christie, Rubio and the sensible Republican leadership.

We can't dismiss 47% of the population, we can't demonize women and minority issues, we can't let the soc cons dictate values.

Jefferson was able to corral the anti-reason, anti-science and fundamentalist crazies without much problem.

The sensible portion of the GOP will as well.
 
Personally I'm wondering who the Dems are gonna go with once that fuck is gone??
 
Grampa, the haters can't stay. Listen to Jindall, Martinez, Barbour, Christie, Rubio and the sensible Republican leadership.

We can't dismiss 47% of the population, we can't demonize women and minority issues, we can't let the soc cons dictate values.

Jefferson was able to corral the anti-reason, anti-science and fundamentalist crazies without much problem.

The sensible portion of the GOP will as well.

The saner Republicans are starting to stand up and say we can't win if we treat people like this

McCain would stand up to the crazies. Romney shrugged his shoulders and smirked

You can't keep insulting blacks, hispanics, young women and the working poor and expect to win elections

The rightwing media thrives on this crap and the dittoheads eat it up and post most of it here. Not a way to endear yourself with the electorate
 
Grampa, the haters can't stay. Listen to Jindall, Martinez, Barbour, Christie, Rubio and the sensible Republican leadership.

We can't dismiss 47% of the population, we can't demonize women and minority issues, we can't let the soc cons dictate values.

Jefferson was able to corral the anti-reason, anti-science and fundamentalist crazies without much problem.

The sensible portion of the GOP will as well.

The saner Republicans are starting to stand up and say we can't win if we treat people like this

McCain would stand up to the crazies. Romney shrugged his shoulders and smirked

You can't keep insulting blacks, hispanics, young women and the working poor and expect to win elections

The rightwing media thrives on this crap and the dittoheads eat it up and post most of it here. Not a way to endear yourself with the electorate

Well put.
 
yawn


We are just 2 years removed from the GOP's RECORD 800 electorate seat win of '10.

A few more years of Hopey Changey and they will blow that record out of the water.
 
Personally I'm wondering who the Dems are gonna go with once that fuck is gone??

Are you so certain he will be gone? Repeal the 22nd amendment, have a national vote on it. The same methods used to put obama in office can be used to keep him there.
 
yawn


We are just 2 years removed from the GOP's RECORD 800 electorate seat win of '10.

A few more years of Hopey Changey and they will blow that record out of the water.

It's all about turnout when the actual campaignng is done. Romney had a piss poor ground game hence no turnout. Now I'm not saying low turnout was all due to getting peoiple out and actually voting but you need a way to motivate people to vote aside from just the issues. A mechanism so to speak to get them there. Obama whuuped his ass in that department. Romney's people should have known better.
 
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yawn


We are just 2 years removed from the GOP's RECORD 800 electorate seat win of '10.

A few more years of Hopey Changey and they will blow that record out of the water.

Yes. In just one election cycle the trend fell apart - during the years of "Hopey Changey". As I recall a couple of months ago there were a lot of predictions like this about the most current election.
 
yawn


We are just 2 years removed from the GOP's RECORD 800 electorate seat win of '10.

A few more years of Hopey Changey and they will blow that record out of the water.

Yes. In just one election cycle the trend fell apart - during the years of "Hopey Changey". As I recall a couple of months ago there were a lot of predictions like this about the most current election.

Ebb and flow...
 
yawn


We are just 2 years removed from the GOP's RECORD 800 electorate seat win of '10.

A few more years of Hopey Changey and they will blow that record out of the water.

Yes. In just one election cycle the trend fell apart - during the years of "Hopey Changey". As I recall a couple of months ago there were a lot of predictions like this about the most current election.

After loss to Bush in 2004, Democrat soul searching sounds eerily familiar

'In November 2004, the New York Times published a story about “baffled,” “bewildered,” and “anxious,” Democrats who were stunned that they failed to oust an unpopular incumbent.'

After loss to Bush in 2004, Democrat soul searching sounds eerily familiar | WashingtonExaminer.com
 
yawn


We are just 2 years removed from the GOP's RECORD 800 electorate seat win of '10.

A few more years of Hopey Changey and they will blow that record out of the water.

Yes. In just one election cycle the trend fell apart - during the years of "Hopey Changey". As I recall a couple of months ago there were a lot of predictions like this about the most current election.

After loss to Bush in 2004, Democrat soul searching sounds eerily familiar

'In November 2004, the New York Times published a story about “baffled,” “bewildered,” and “anxious,” Democrats who were stunned that they failed to oust an unpopular incumbent.'

After loss to Bush in 2004, Democrat soul searching sounds eerily familiar | WashingtonExaminer.com

What did the Democrats do about it?

They restructured their message, put in new campaign leadership, focused on key issues
It paid dividends in 2006 and 2008

What will Republicans do?
We shall see
 
The GOP, will continue to follow their plan to make America fail economically. The plan now seems to have been: help America enter another Great Depression, then trot out rich candidates, candidates that built it themselves and stashed their profit overseas. Americans would then realize how easy it is to become rich, and bingo, in their greed, would vote Republican.
Instead Americans bought some lottery tickets and voted Democratic.
Meantime Republicans are still following their plan to make America fail, but the part to show America rich poster-candidates might be out.
So can the GOP come up with a better plan to make America fail or was that it? We'll see.
 
Ron Paul's crazy liberturds might need saving but the GOP is fine. There won't be any rioting in the streets and the GOP will continue to enjoy the majority in congress and most of the state governors.
 
The GOP, will continue to follow their plan to make America fail economically. The plan now seems to have been: help America enter another Great Depression, then trot out rich candidates, candidates that built it themselves and stashed their profit overseas. Americans would then realize how easy it is to become rich, and bingo, in their greed, would vote Republican.
Instead Americans bought some lottery tickets and voted Democratic.
Meantime Republicans are still following their plan to make America fail, but the part to show America rich poster-candidates might be out.
So can the GOP come up with a better plan to make America fail or was that it? We'll see.

Rhetorical bullshit. Mentality like that is why we are divided. Obama won, offer some solutions going forward. Let the Republicans worry about themselves.

Keep painting with a broad stroke and we'll get 4 more years of stagnation.
 
The haters are being forced out.

The Republicans are returning to reality.

No one is being forced out. Moderates lost just as much in the last election.

Your liberal panties are showing.

This encapsulates the republican delima.


They will hve to dumb this base that GM represents in this little conversation.


You will not change their minds.


they will have to be dumped.


The sooner the republican party realises that these people will have to be tossed as nutters who you are PROUD to piss off the sooner you will recover.

You will be in the Hinterlands no matter what move you make.

The only move is to dump these people unceremoniously and quickly and out them for what they are and be proud of their scorn and then rebuild your party with SMART ideas that dont exclude over half of the countrys interests OR do their bidding and NEVER recover.



that is the choice that is facing the republican party.
 

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