Will the Democratic Party survive Obama?

[JakeStarkey]

As long as people can go to the ballot box to vote in favor of giving themselves someone elses money, we will have a Democrat party.

I don't know, maybe they'll just be absorbed by CPUSA and stop all the pretense.

No, no, no: it is far more likely the TeaP movement will be absorbed by the CPUSA, because their memberships are so alike temperamentally.

 

[rightwinger]

No question there will be a void to fill in the Democratic party after Obama leaves office

Who can fill it? I think Hillary would energize the base, take Obama's programs and go further with them.

If Hillary does not run in 2016, I think there would be a definite void that Republicans can take advantage of

 

[auditor0007]

Wasn't that long ago people thought the democratic party was dying, look how that turned out. The one thing we know for sure is that the majority party will eventually screw up enough to get themselves voted out of office.

The problem with the Republican Party is that they are gradually pushing more and more of their own out of the party due to the far right being absolutely intolerant of anyone who might have even slightly more moderate views, whether that be on taxation issues, or social issues. The far right is so rabid about their positions that many even suggest just starting a new party of far right wing conservatives. This is how out of touch these people are, and it is the reason the Republican Party is in so much trouble for the long run. The truth is that the country is moving to the left on many issues. That doesn't mean we are becoming a socialist country full of Marxists and Communists like the rabid right suggests, but it does mean that the right is cornering themselves.

In political forums such as this one, it looks as if the far right is the majority. They dominate the conversation in these forums and try to belittle anyone with differing views. The problem is that political forums like this do not represent the real world. In the real world, we don't see the type of fanaticism that exists in these forums, at least that type of fanaticism doesn't dominate normal discourse. The Republican Party may not be dead yet, but it better do something to restrain the far right and bring back the moderates, or it will definitely become a dying party.

 

[peach174]

When inflation hits, the Dem's will sink.
With Health Care premiums going up, with utilities going up and food prices, they will not win.

 

[Si modo]

Wasn't that long ago people thought the democratic party was dying, look how that turned out. The one thing we know for sure is that the majority party will eventually screw up enough to get themselves voted out of office.

They get voted out when they don't screw up. See Al Gore.

The fatigue factor in 2 term Presidents is more powerful than many believe. If the Democrats wish to overcome it, they need someone totally different than Obama in style; not so much in substance which doesn't matter as much or hasn't mattered as much in recent elections.

Al Gore was one of the biggest fuck ups in history.

And, he still is.

 

[Truthmatters]

Gore was robbed of the election in 2000.

 

[Truthmatters]

Florida Central Voter File - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


James Lee's testimony

On 17 April 2001, James Lee testified, before the McKinney panel, that the state had given DBT the directive to add to the purge list people who matched at least 90% of a last name. DBT objected, knowing that this would produce a huge number of false positives (non-felons).[7]

Lee went on saying that the state then ordered DBT to shift to an even lower threshold of 80% match, allowing also names to be reversed (thus a person named Thomas Clarence could be taken to be the same as Clarence Thomas). Besides this, middle initials were skipped, Jr. and Sr. suffixes dropped, and some nicknames and aliases were added to puff up the list.

"DBT told state officials", testified Lee, "that the rules for creating the [purge] list would mean a significant number of people who were not deceased, not registered in more than one county, or not a felon, would be included on the list. DBT made suggestions to reduce the numbers of eligible voters included on the list". According to Lee, to this suggestion the state told the company, "Forget about it".

"The people who worked on this (for DBT) are very adamant... they told them what would happen", said Lee. "The state expected the county supervisors to be the failsafe." Lee said his company will never again get involved in cleansing voting rolls. "We are not confident any of the methods used today can guarantee legal voters will not be wrongfully denied the right to vote", Lee told a group of Atlanta-area black lawmakers in March 2001.[8]

 

[peach174]

Wasn't that long ago people thought the democratic party was dying, look how that turned out. The one thing we know for sure is that the majority party will eventually screw up enough to get themselves voted out of office.

The problem with the Republican Party is that they are gradually pushing more and more of their own out of the party due to the far right being absolutely intolerant of anyone who might have even slightly more moderate views, whether that be on taxation issues, or social issues. The far right is so rabid about their positions that many even suggest just starting a new party of far right wing conservatives. This is how out of touch these people are, and it is the reason the Republican Party is in so much trouble for the long run. The truth is that the country is moving to the left on many issues. That doesn't mean we are becoming a socialist country full of Marxists and Communists like the rabid right suggests, but it does mean that the right is cornering themselves.

In political forums such as this one, it looks as if the far right is the majority. They dominate the conversation in these forums and try to belittle anyone with differing views. The problem is that political forums like this do not represent the real world. In the real world, we don't see the type of fanaticism that exists in these forums, at least that type of fanaticism doesn't dominate normal discourse. The Republican Party may not be dead yet, but it better do something to restrain the far right and bring back the moderates, or it will definitely become a dying party.

You think that the Dems are not doing the same thing? They are
Dems have pushed out the conservatives and moderates in their party.
The extreme far left is running the Democratic party.

 

[Truthmatters]

Gore won more votes than Bush nationwide and was handed the election by the scotus.

the soctus then said there decision could not be used as prescidence.

The whole reason the scotus exsists is to set prescidence

 

[Truthmatters]

You cant help this republican party.

they want to die

 

[slackjawed]

Gore was robbed of the election in 2000.

Living in the past?

Is your statement different than those republicans going about claiming Obama stole the last election?


Partisanship for the sake of partisanship sucks and turns otherwise normal people into blithering fools.

 

[FJO]

Gore was robbed of the election in 2000.

The people who knew him best, the people of the great state of Tennessee voted for GWB, not for Al Gore.

No candidate has ever won the Presidency without the support of his home state.

 

[TNHarley]

Gore was robbed of the election in 2000.

The people who knew him best, the people of the great state of Tennessee voted for GWB, not for Al Gore.

No candidate has ever won the Presidency without the support of his home state.

You from TN?

 

[Truthmatters]

No candidate was ever cheated like Gore was

 

[TNHarley]

No candidate was ever cheated like Gore was

Global Warming DEEEERRRR send me your money DDDDDEEEEEERRRRRR. Hey TM, you hate success. Al Gore is now richer than Romney. What is your hypocritical response to that?

 

[FJO]

Gore was robbed of the election in 2000.

The people who knew him best, the people of the great state of Tennessee voted for GWB, not for Al Gore.

No candidate has ever won the Presidency without the support of his home state.

You from TN?

Traveled through Tennessee many times. Each time I left Tennessee, I was FROM Tennessee.

What difference does that make?

 

[Truthmatters]

the republican party has cheated in elections for decades now.

The right just refuses the decades of court documented evidence of the republican partys cheating

 

[nodoginnafight]

Congressional approval ratings show Democrats lead Republicans. Are those numbers completely independent of Obama? It's impossible to say for sure, but I think that right now anyway, the Democratric Party is a slightly better representation of mainstream American than the Republican Party is.

 

[nodoginnafight]

The people who knew him best, the people of the great state of Tennessee voted for GWB, not for Al Gore.

No candidate has ever won the Presidency without the support of his home state.

You from TN?

Traveled through Tennessee many times. Each time I left Tennessee, I was FROM Tennessee.

What difference does that make?

I lived in Tennessee in 2000. Gore losing Tennessee that year didn't surprise me in the least. Democrats have a tough time winning statewide elections in Tenn. Bredesen was about as blue a blue dog as you will ever seen and the GOP nominated a complete doof - that's the only way Tenn would up with a Democrat as governor for a few years.

 

[JakeStarkey]

When inflation hits, the Dem's will sink.
With Health Care premiums going up, with utilities going up and food prices, they will not win.

That's true, and I have been waiting for it for a long time. That's why a lot of my investment money went into properties. And we are still waiting. We have hedged the middle by having a great rental market for good homes.