Will Republicans shut down the Government over Planned Parenthood?

[rightwinger]

Will Republicans shut down the government over Planned Parenthood? - The Week

Another night of budget talks failed to produce a deal acceptable to President Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), and House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). Reid said that money isn't the holdup, but rather the GOP's "line in the sand" over its hundreds of policy amendments, especially those to defund Planned Parenthood and curb EPA enforcement. Such big policy issues "have no place on a budget bill," Reid said. Could the government really shut down over Planned Parenthood?

 

[xsited1]

The ball is in the Dems' court: Republicans have done their part to keep government open, says John McCormack in The Weekly Standard. But Obama and Reid won't allow another one-week extension, which only contains two "riders" — neither of which deals with Planned Parenthood or the EPA. In fact, "it's quite amazing" that Democrats are "now insisting that taxpayer-funding of abortion" is more important than funding the troops and keeping "budget negotiations going."

Crazy.

 

[rightwinger]

The Government Shutdown is About Abortion and Pollution | Death and Taxes

Leaving aside the fact that abortion is a medical procedure performed by medical professionals and should therefore enjoy the same federal dollars our government has deemed wise to spend on public health, to shut down the government over the chump change Washington spends on the procedure is nothing short of ludicrous. The government’s relationship with abortion, as well as its relation with the environment, are conversations that are absolutely worthwhile—so worthwhile that they require completely separate debates. Attempting action on these issues in the context of a budget debate, prompting gridlock (which Republicans had to know would happen) and endangering the livelihood of nearly one million government employees in addition to freezing public services, is profoundly irresponsible.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The Government Shutdown is About Abortion and Pollution | Death and Taxes

Leaving aside the fact that abortion is a medical procedure performed by medical professionals and should therefore enjoy the same federal dollars our government has deemed wise to spend on public health, to shut down the government over the chump change Washington spends on the procedure is nothing short of ludicrous. The government’s relationship with abortion, as well as its relation with the environment, are conversations that are absolutely worthwhile—so worthwhile that they require completely separate debates. Attempting action on these issues in the context of a budget debate, prompting gridlock (which Republicans had to know would happen) and endangering the livelihood of nearly one million government employees in addition to freezing public services, is profoundly irresponsible.

Yep, the Dems sure seem to be making it all about abortion.. crazy I say.

 

[R.D.]

Reid lies
There are only two "riders" in this budget stopgap. The first prevents federal funds from being used to build a detention center on U.S. soil for Guantanamo detainees or for bringing those detainees to the United States. But Reid didn't say anything about that rider in his remarks.

Instead, Reid said that "the two main issues that are holding this matter are up the choice of women, reproductive rights, and clean air. These matters have no place on a budget bill." By clean air, he means the amendment to keep the EPA from regulating carbon dioxide emissions. That rider is not included in House Republicans' bill....

So that seems to be the sticking point--the reason Reid won't vote for this budget or won't allow a vote. To be clear: We're not talking about prohibiting funds for contraception from being used to subsidize abortion providers (i.e. the Pence amendment on Planned Parenthood). We're talking about direct taxpayer-funding of abortion....

This policy, known as the Dornan amendment, has previously enjoyed bipartisan support: Indeed, Reid, Biden, Pelosi, and Obama have all voted for appropriations bills that included the Dornan amendment. President Obama signed the Dornan amendment into law in the fiscal year 2009 budget.

 

[California Girl]

Somebody order a bulk supply of sick bags.... the Dems are spinning so much, one of 'em's bound to up chuck their dinner. Sad bastards.

 

[JimH52]

The Republicans are trying to nickle and dime their way to social change and the Dems are not going to buy it. Just wait until citizens learn that the GOP attempt at "Social Engineering" is the reason the Government is shut down. Oh, and they will learn it soon!

 

[bodecea]

Of course this is ridiculous. We all know the Republicans don't really want to do anything to stop illegal abortion. It's their bread and butter at fundraising time.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Remember when we kept telling the clowns that the Tea Party was nothing more than the same old right wing of the Republican party? With the social conservatives right where they always were?

Remember when the clowns kept saying no no no!! this is different?!

Remember when I said I told you so? (well I said that just now, so that shouldn't be hard to remember.)

 

[bripat9643]

The Republicans are trying to nickle and dime their way to social change and the Dems are not going to buy it. Just wait until citizens learn that the GOP attempt at "Social Engineering" is the reason the Government is shut down. Oh, and they will learn it soon!

The federal budget is one vast reeking pile of social engineering. It would be impossible to cut anything with libs accusing you of "social engineering." furthermore, since when have Democrats ever been opposed to social engineering. Isn't that their bread and butter? Isn't that the purpose of every Democrat social program?

 

[WillowTree]

The Republicans are trying to nickle and dime their way to social change and the Dems are not going to buy it. Just wait until citizens learn that the GOP attempt at "Social Engineering" is the reason the Government is shut down. Oh, and they will learn it soon!

DemonRats are just pissed off cause the TEA Party has aligned with the Republicans and want to put a stop to you assholes pissing all the money away.. Your sugar titties are drying up and you can't stand it.

 

[JWBooth]

Conversely, will the Democrats?

 

[MaggieMae]

The ball is in the Dems' court: Republicans have done their part to keep government open, says John McCormack in The Weekly Standard. But Obama and Reid won't allow another one-week extension, which only contains two "riders" — neither of which deals with Planned Parenthood or the EPA. In fact, "it's quite amazing" that Democrats are "now insisting that taxpayer-funding of abortion" is more important than funding the troops and keeping "budget negotiations going."

Crazy.

What part of the federal government doesn't fund abortions anyway are clowns like John McCormack and you not getting? By cutting Planned Parenthood, ironically, they'll be cutting PREGNANCY PREVENTION for low-income women. You want more babies born to women who can't care for them or don't want them and then have even MORE chidren on welfare to continue the cycle?

This is a fucking no-brainer.

 

[Immanuel]

Conversely, will the Democrats?

You beat me to it. I was going to mention that very thing. It seems to me that the Democrats are willing to shut down the government over these very issues. Neither side is willing to compromise so why not just point the finger (middle one in this case) at the other side and say, "It is their fault!".

Immie

 

[rightwinger]

The Republicans are using the budget process to kill every program that they were outvoted on in the past.

- Planned Parenthood
- Healthcare
- Environmental Protection
- Education
- PBS/NPR

Rather than negotiate in good faith, they are holding the government hostage to push through a rightwing conservative agenda under the excuse of balancing the budget

 

[WillowTree]

The real onus for this is of course on the demonRats. they didn't do a budget AT ALL, they should have but they didn't and purely for political reasons they chose not to do a budget and now it's come back to bite them in their hairy little ratty asses..

 

[Anachronism]

The Republicans are using the budget process to kill every program that they were outvoted on in the past.

- Planned Parenthood
- Healthcare
- Environmental Protection
- Education
- PBS/NPR

GOOD FOR THEM. They're actually finally taking a STAND, after apparently realizing that when you're dealing with the immoral, the insane, and the Liberal (yea, I know I'm being redundant) that VOTES are not the means to get thing accomplished and are nothing more than a waste of time.

Rather than negotiate in good faith, they are holding the government hostage to push through a rightwing conservative agenda under the excuse of balancing the budget

You don't negotiate with your ENEMIES.... You DESTROY THEM by any means possible. Just be happy they're using political means at this point rather than my prefered method of violent revolution.

 

[JimH52]

Yes, Social Engineering is important enough for the Republicans to Shut Down the Government. The GOP cannot say NO! to Batcrazy Bachmann and her clann. Therefore, the riders will stay and the Government will come down.

1995 all over again...

 

[Vel]

The Government Shutdown is About Abortion and Pollution | Death and Taxes

Leaving aside the fact that abortion is a medical procedure performed by medical professionals and should therefore enjoy the same federal dollars our government has deemed wise to spend on public health, to shut down the government over the chump change Washington spends on the procedure is nothing short of ludicrous. The government’s relationship with abortion, as well as its relation with the environment, are conversations that are absolutely worthwhile—so worthwhile that they require completely separate debates. Attempting action on these issues in the context of a budget debate, prompting gridlock (which Republicans had to know would happen) and endangering the livelihood of nearly one million government employees in addition to freezing public services, is profoundly irresponsible.

Since it's only "chump change" then Planned Parenthood will no doubt be able to replace that funding from a private source. Are you telling us that the Democrats are willing to shut the government down over "chump change"?

 

[JimH52]

A Shut Down will benefit Obama's re-election campaign more than anything he could have dreamed up.

TEA PARTY = The Gift that keeps on Giving.

Many of us told you GOP Hacks that they would cost you the Senate, and they did. Now they will cost you the WH in 2012.