Will Party-Switches = Even More Wins For Republicans After Nov. 2nd?

[Foxfyre]

Is there an official "tea Party" or are not all of these people they are pushing, just Republicans running, wolves in sheep's clothing?

There is no Tea Party majority....there is no Tea Party period, and I don't see the possibility of any of what they believe in, getting passed.....

good luck though!

Well in our local group there was probably a plurality of Republicans but I don't believe there was a majority of Republicans. Lots of Independents. Quite a few Democrats. And that's pretty much the story from others I've talked to across the nation.

They aren't wanting anything 'passed' so much as they are wanting stuff stopped. Stop the runaway growth of government. Stop irresponsible spending. Stop punative taxes that are stifling small business and killing jobs. Stop erosion of our freedoms, choices, opportunities. They believe, and I think correctly so, that to continue on the course we have been on is sheer insanity.

I'm guessing there isn't a strong party loyalist in the bunch. They don't give a flying fig what party is in power. They care about integrity of the system and policy endorsed. The only reason they are mostly backing Republicans at this time is because Republicans are the only ones who cared what they thought and/or agreed with them. The Democrats blew them off and continue to blow them off in the ugliest possible manner. And Republicans who didn't see it the Tea Party way haven't received their endorsement either.

 

[Revere]

Is there an official "tea Party" or are not all of these people they are pushing, just Republicans running, wolves in sheep's clothing?

There is no Tea Party majority....there is no Tea Party period, and I don't see the possibility of any of what they believe in, getting passed.....

good luck though!

Care, I don't think one could see what appears to be happening with polling and say these are all Republicans. I also don't think the goal is to 'take control of GOP.' It's not a party, period. It's a movement. Huge difference. No loyalty, which is a good thing. It's certain issues that many people, across political parties and much more importantly, folks who have no party affiliation or haven't really been politically aware before.

That's where the numbers are from. Once the discussion among these folks moves from economic and government size? Little agreement amongst them.

I disagree. The Tea Party has to occupy the GOP for the purpose of restoring a Constitutional Republic.

It's the only way it gets done.

 

[Annie]

Is there an official "tea Party" or are not all of these people they are pushing, just Republicans running, wolves in sheep's clothing?

There is no Tea Party majority....there is no Tea Party period, and I don't see the possibility of any of what they believe in, getting passed.....

good luck though!

Care, I don't think one could see what appears to be happening with polling and say these are all Republicans. I also don't think the goal is to 'take control of GOP.' It's not a party, period. It's a movement. Huge difference. No loyalty, which is a good thing. It's certain issues that many people, across political parties and much more importantly, folks who have no party affiliation or haven't really been politically aware before.

That's where the numbers are from. Once the discussion among these folks moves from economic and government size? Little agreement amongst them.

I disagree. The Tea Party has to occupy the GOP for the purpose of restoring a Constitutional Republic.

It's the only way it gets done.

And many think that their vision of the tea parties is the salient one. I don't see the GOP as redeemable. I also don't see any political party dominated by far right religious fanatics or those arguing that they KNOW what the FOUNDERS thought is going to appeal to most people, that will survive long. Wrapping oneself in one's personal opinion of the Constitution just will not work.

Now if politicians stand for Constitutional principles, they will not be arguing about abortion or intelligent design or textbooks, they'll be talking about what is in the states domain and what's in the Federal government's domain.

I've no clue if the above pertains to you, other than the reference to the GOP.

 

[uscitizen]

The Tea Party is taking over the GOP and will end Obama's legislative agenda.

That's step one.

I think you have that backwards, the republicans are taking over the tea party.

What ticket are the TP candidates running for office on?
they would run as independents if they were truely trying to distance themselves from the republican party.

 

[Annie]

The Tea Party is taking over the GOP and will end Obama's legislative agenda.

That's step one.

I think you have that backwards, the republicans are taking over the tea party.

What ticket are the TP candidates running for office on?
they would run as independents if they were truely trying to distance themselves from the republican party.

Disagree. If they'd run as independents, they'd have lost. Instead they targeted certain GOP members and beat them in primaries. We'll see what happens as time moves along.

No members of Congress will have safe seats, not the new, not the old.

 

[Revere]

The Tea Party is taking over the GOP and will end Obama's legislative agenda.

That's step one.

I think you have that backwards, the republicans are taking over the tea party.

What ticket are the TP candidates running for office on?
they would run as independents if they were truely trying to distance themselves from the republican party.

Is Marco Rubio the same as Charlie Crist?

 

[uscitizen]

So if they could not win as independents......

Yeah they had to use the republican machine to get into office.

What I said, just a different angle.

 

[Revere]

These pants pissers want the Tea Party to start fielding third party candidates, because they know it's doomed. But it's the defeated Republicans who are doing that. Crist. Murkowski. They're the ones on the outside looking in.

 

[uscitizen]

The Tea Party is taking over the GOP and will end Obama's legislative agenda.

That's step one.

I think you have that backwards, the republicans are taking over the tea party.

What ticket are the TP candidates running for office on?
they would run as independents if they were truely trying to distance themselves from the republican party.

Is Marco Rubio the same as Charlie Crist?

Umm no, it is clear they are 2 different persons.

Crist had the balls to run as independent?
Rubio did not?

I hope Crist wins, If I still lived in FL I would vote for him.

 

[Revere]

So if they could not win as independents......

Yeah they had to use the republican machine to get into office.

What I said, just a different angle.

No, we're throwing them out every chance we get.

 

[Charles_Main]

Umm no.

If the tea partiers get in power it will be the best thing to ever happen to the democratic party.

I guess we'll see. Personally i feel the Moderate/Conservative-leaning Democrats have no place in their Party anymore. They've been squeezed out by the Socialist/Progressive extremists. I'm betting on many Democratic defections after Nov. 2nd.

yep, I am one of them. Squeezed out in the last decade.

 

[uscitizen]

So if they could not win as independents......

Yeah they had to use the republican machine to get into office.

What I said, just a different angle.

No, we're throwing them out every chance we get.

Like you did Bush or are doing with McCain?

 

[Annie]

So if they could not win as independents......

Yeah they had to use the republican machine to get into office.

What I said, just a different angle.

Using the GOP to get what they want, is saying that the GOP has failed. Now, if it should change? Unlikely, but of course possible. They've been anti-tea party for the reason they feel they own the game and grow rich and fat.

They are not the party of small government and haven't been since 1920's at best. Reagan slowed growth, didn't reverse it. He also caused harm to certain areas that really have had serious repercussions, especially regarding census data.

 

[kyzr]

I this is a very under-reported development. Mass Democratic defections could end up being the biggest story of all after Nov. 2nd.

The dems don't need to defect necessarily, that would be huge, but the GOP will have a "working majority" in both houses considering the dems who vote with the GOP on major issues. Not even considering the filibuster, if Obama and the dems want to pass ANYTHING they need to do what the GOP wants passed.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I guess we'll see in a few days. I think the days after Election Day are going to be very interesting. I really do think many Democrats will decide to head over to the Republican Party. The Socialist/Progressive extremists have made it very clear that Moderate/Conservative-leaning Democrats are no longer welcome. It's gonna be fun. Can't wait.